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Offline Stanley N

Re: Bp. Huonder to consecrate 2 Bishops for SSPX
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2019, 10:02:44 AM »
Validity would not be the problem.

Assuming an episcopal consecration were done in the traditional rite with at least one of the two co-consecrators being a SSPX bishop from 1988, there would be no doubt about the validity of the bishop consecrated, even if someone had doubts about the principle consecrator.
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Offline Matthew

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Re: Bp. Huonder to consecrate 2 Bishops for SSPX
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2019, 10:52:09 AM »
Quote from: Stanley N on March 05, 2019, 10:02:44 AM
Validity would not be the problem.

Assuming an episcopal consecration were done in the traditional rite with at least one of the two co-consecrators being a SSPX bishop from 1988, there would be no doubt about the validity of the bishop consecrated, even if someone had doubts about the principle consecrator.
Not all the details of the consecration have been announced yet.
Who else is going to be consecrated, and is it official that there will be co-consecrators? 
+Williamson might have been fed false information, you never know.

You're right; even one valid bishop would be enough to confer orders. I would assume the SSPX would slip in a request to have +Fellay and maybe others be there, "just for the heck of it" which would keep the Trad faithful happy.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Bp. Huonder to consecrate 2 Bishops for SSPX
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2019, 11:12:42 AM »
Quote from: Stanley N on March 05, 2019, 10:02:44 AM
Validity would not be the problem.

Assuming an episcopal consecration were done in the traditional rite with at least one of the two co-consecrators being a SSPX bishop from 1988, there would be no doubt about the validity of the bishop consecrated, even if someone had doubts about the principle consecrator.

Yes, as Matthew said, all the details are conjecture.  Of course this entire thread comes from some information that got to +Williamson ... and that too might be unreliable.  So perhaps this entire thread is purely speculative.
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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: Bp. Huonder to consecrate 2 Bishops for SSPX
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2019, 11:14:20 AM »
Quote from: Stanley N on March 05, 2019, 10:02:44 AM
Validity would not be the problem.

Assuming an episcopal consecration were done in the traditional rite with at least one of the two co-consecrators being a SSPX bishop from 1988, there would be no doubt about the validity of the bishop consecrated, even if someone had doubts about the principle consecrator.
That is correct of course, however, from previous experience with the other Ecclesia Dei trad groups, that has never been the case, they have ALL been ordained by a new formula bishop. 
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Offline Matthew

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Re: Bp. Huonder to consecrate 2 Bishops for SSPX
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2019, 11:16:14 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on March 05, 2019, 11:12:42 AM
Yes, as Matthew said, all the details are conjecture.  Of course this entire thread comes from some information that got to +Williamson ... and that too might be unreliable.  So perhaps this entire thread is purely speculative.

Yes, but it's called-for speculation.
Eventually the SSPX has to address the bishop issue. Thus far, they have sworn off all +Lefebvre/+Williamson style "emergency" consecrations of Traditional bishops. So either the SSPX will get one from Rome (now that they've practically re-united and made a deal with Rome) or die off completely. Only those 2 options.
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