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OFFICIAL COMMUNIQUÉ OF BISHOP FELLAY TO MEMBERS OF THE SSPX (PRIESTS, BROTHERS, NUNS, OBLATES). Dated June 28, and released to the public on the Feast of Our Lady of Mount Carmel, July 16th, 2016. (From DICI)
For the glory of God,
for the honor of Our Lord Jesus Christ and of His Most Holy Mother,
for our salvation.
In the present grave state of necessity in the Church, which gives it the right to administer spiritual aid to the souls that turn to it, the Society of Saint Pius X does not seek above all a canonical recognition, to which it has a right because it is Catholic. The solution is not simply juridical. It depends on a doctrinal position that it is imperative to express.
When Saint Pius X condemned modernism, he traced the whole argument of the encyclical Pascendi back to one initial principle: independence. Now the world makes all its efforts to change the axis around which it must turn. And it is obvious to Catholics, as it is to those who are not, that the Cross is no longer that axis. Paul VI said it very well: man is (See Closing Speech of Vatican II, December 7, 1965).
Today the world turns around this, according to him, definitively established axis: human dignity, man’s conscience and freedom. Modern man exists for his own sake. Man is the king of the universe. He has dethroned Christ. Man exalts his autonomous, independent conscience, to the point of dissolving even the very foundations of the family and marriage.
The Society of Saint Pius X has always opposed this project of deconstruction of the universe, both the political society, and the Church.
To remedy this universal disorder, the Good Lord raised up a man, a Christian, a priest, a bishop. What did he do? He founded a society—a hierarchical society—the principle and end of which are just the antidote to this universal disorder: The Sacrament of Holy Orders. The purpose of the Society of Saint Pius X continues to be not only the actual remedy of the crisis but also thereby the salvation of all who cooperate in it. The Society is determined to keep doctrinal, theological and social rectitude, founded on the Cross of Jesus Christ, on His Kingship, on His sacrifice, and on His priesthood, the principle of all order and of all grace. Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre fought his whole life long for the triumph of these fundamental truths. It is incuмbent on us at the present hour to redouble our efforts and to intensify the same fight on the same principles.
We are not “conciliarists”: for they deny that Christ’s cross is the world’s axis; neither are we dissenters who reject the social nature of the Church. We are a Society of priests of Jesus Christ, of the Catholic Church.
Is this truly the moment for the general restoration of the Church? Divine Providence does not abandon its Church, the head of which is the Pope, the Vicar of Jesus Christ. This is why an indisputable sign of this restoration will be the express desire will of the Supreme Pontiff to grant the means with which to reestablish the order of the priesthood, of the faith, and of Tradition, sign which will moreover be the guarantee of the necessary unity of the family of Tradition.
Christus regnat,
Christus imperat,
Deo gratias,
Amen.
+ Bernard Fellay
Anzère, 28 June 2016
on the vigil of the Apostles Peter and Paul
COMMENTS FROM FR. GIROUARD EMAILED TO HIS FAITHFUL ON JULY 16TH.[/u]
Dear parishioners and friends,
Let us try to summarize and clarify this communiqué, so as to understand better its real meaning. I will put the paragraph numbers between parenthesis. Afterwards I will comment the docuмent.
SUMMARY OF THE COMMUNIQUÉ:
(1) The SSPX has a right to a canonical recognition but does not seek it, as it has supplied jurisdiction.
(2) Pascendi says the root of modernism is the spirit of independance. Thus the Cross is not anymore the axis of the world, but man is (Paul VI at the end of Vatican II). .
3) Modern man has dethroned Christ and made himself king of the universe, seeking his own satisfaction in all things..
4) The SSPX is opposed to this shift from the Cross to Man.
5) In order to fight the spirit of independance and restore the Cross as axis of the universe, God sent Archbihsop Lefebvre who founded a hierarchical society dedicated to Holy Orders. She continues his fight for the Truth.
6) The SSPX is therefore neither conciliarist (who promote Man's kingship) nor dissenters (who refuse the social aspect of the Church).
7) God helps His Church and His Vicar, the Pope, and therefore a restoration will come one day. The sign that the time has come will be when the Pope expresses his will to grant the means to restore Holy Orders, Faith, and Tradition. This sign will also bring the necessary unity of the traditional movement.
COMMENTS:
Well, my dear friends, here is what the comminuqué really says:
A) THE MALADY:
The root of Modernism is the spirit of independance, which leads man to seek his own satisfaction in all things, thus putting himself at the center of the universe, thus dethroning Christ and His Cross, as was confirmed with Vatican II.
B) THE REMEDY:
To correct this, God sent the SSPX, which is hierarchical, and thus opposed by its very structure to that spirit of independance, and therefore to Modernism. Restoration of the Kingship of Christ and of the Cross by Holy Orders continues to be the purpose of the Society. She is therefore against conciliarism, while at the same time she does not want to be independant from the structure of the Church, which is also hierachical, and headed by God's Vicar.
C) THE PHYSICIAN:
God will use the Pope to end the crisis and restore Christ and the Cross as the axis of the Universe. The sign of this restoration will be when the Pope will express his determination to use the remedy sent by God. This sign will unify all members of the family of Tradition. Indeed, which one of them will dare to oppose God's manifest will?
D) THE MEDICAL ACT:
The Pope will administer the God-send remedy to the ailing Church by officially re-integrating the Society in the structure of the Church.
E) THE CURE:
It will take time to heal the Church, (and the world by the healed Church), but we must be confident we will succeed. Are we not the remedy sent by God?
Dear parishioners and friends, doesn't this remind you of something? Remember what I wrote a few days ago (July 4th) about the latest Rosary Crusade? Remember the words I had put in Bishop Fellay's mouth as his future announcement at the end of Crusade? Is not the gist of this June 28th communiqué saying almost the same thing?
I am now wondering if this recognition might not take place sooner than August 22, 2017... It's coming, my friends!
God bless,
Fr. Girouard
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I had the same take on this communique that Fr. Girouard did. That last paragraph really seems to be suggesting that a "regularisation" is coming (or is already a done deal) and the leadership is preemptively justifying acceptance of the gilded cage.
Fr. Girouard asks if it might come before 22 August? I could see a regularisation being announced exactly a day before the 22nd, on the 21st, being the Novus Ordo feast of St. Pius X (I guess this is what FrG is alluding to by saying "before the 22nd").
We have maintained some contact with our friends who remained with the S.S.P.X since we "jumped ship" four years ago. It is my impression that the those who didn't leave around the time we did will stay no matter what happens ... the S.S.P.X has been slowly and carefully cultivating things to ensure almost universal acceptance.
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The headline on Rorate Caeli is (I'm sure meant to be) intriguing. It reads: "Statement of SSPX Superior-general Bp. Fellay -- To be read between the lines" They know something. I think Fr. Girouard is right to say: "... It's coming, my friends!"
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/07/statement-of-sspx-superior-general-bp.html
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The Great Fr. Girouard would perhaps like to say a bit more, but he's leaving this up to our own perception to put it all together and to READ BETWEEN THE LINES, like this:
Bishop Fellay is a self-proclaimed prophet, announcing the will of God for all:
C)...God will use the Pope to end the crisis and restore Christ ... The sign of this restoration will be... the remedy sent by God... will unify all members of the family of Tradition... which one of them will dare to oppose God's manifest will?
D) ...the God-sent remedy ... officially re-integrating the Society in the structure of the Church.
By definition, anyone who objects to this re-integration of the SSPX with "mainstream Catholicism" (MSM's favorite moniker) will thereby place themself outside the Church, even while THEY BELIEVE that's where they will not find salvation.
That's what THEY believe (we don't), so they're making their own rules which they then have to live by, you see?
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Translation: any Trads who dare to voice incredulity upon the most holy announcement coming soon to an SSPX parish near you, will be playing a very dangerous game with their own salvation.
Furthermore, the precious faithful who remain steadfastly respectful of every word that issues forth from the Most Illustrious Superiors of said Society will in a moment be able to tell for sure who is suspect because they will be "anti-Fellay" (reminiscent of anti-Semitic).
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I had the same take on this communique that Fr. Girouard did. That last paragraph really seems to be suggesting that a "regularisation" is coming (or is already a done deal) and the leadership is preemptively justifying acceptance of the gilded cage.
Fr. Girouard asks if it might come before 22 August? I could see a regularisation being announced exactly a day before the 22nd, on the 21st, being the Novus Ordo feast of St. Pius X (I guess this is what FrG is alluding to by saying "before the 22nd").
We have maintained some contact with our friends who remained with the S.S.P.X since we "jumped ship" four years ago. It is my impression that the those who didn't leave around the time we did will stay no matter what happens ... the S.S.P.X has been slowly and carefully cultivating things to ensure almost universal acceptance.
August 22nd is the Feast of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, which is the Octave Day of the Feast of the Assumption Body and Soul of Blessed Mary into Heaven, August 15th, a Holy Day of Obligation (in the United States of America).
This year, the Novus Ordo Feast of Pope St. Pius X, August 21st, falls on a Sunday.
On the traditional calendar, it will be the 14th Sunday after Pentecost.
So this would be a very logical day to make the most august announcement.
Some might prefer to say, the most holy announcement.
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fellay:
To remedy this universal disorder, the Good Lord raised up a man, a Christian, a priest, a bishop. What did he do? He founded a society—a hierarchical society—the principle and end of which are just the antidote to this universal disorder
Not only does the Fellay-led Society not "remedy the universal disorder," it is making enormous in-house contributions to it, IMO. I see tremendous disorder in one of its premier chapel assemblies and schools in the western U.S. The "hierarchical society" has been absolutely powerless to rectify it. In fact, at least two of its members there have either been recently removed, or forced to "resign," and flee to other parts. Meanwhile, the people populating this tiny hierarchical-dominated universe have been plunged into greater confusion, and, it seems, left to pick up the pieces on their own. And their leader sits off some several thousand miles away, pontificating and bragging on his organization's putative mission to provide an "antidote," not just within the confines of his own sorry group, but for the entire inhabited universe. I need a drink!
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In this communique of Bp. Fellay, he makes a couple of references to the Cross as being the world's axis.
I don't recall ever reading or hearing of the Cross as the world's axis. What sort of reference or meaning does it have regarding Catholicism?
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fellay:To remedy this universal disorder, the Good Lord raised up a man, a Christian, a priest, a bishop. What did he do? He founded a society—a hierarchical society—the principle and end of which are just the antidote to this universal disorder
Not only does the Fellay-led Society not "remedy the universal disorder," it is making enormous in-house contributions to it, IMO. I see tremendous disorder in one of its premier chapel assemblies and schools in the western U.S. The "hierarchical society" has been absolutely powerless to rectify it. In fact, at least two of its members there have either been recently removed, or forced to "resign," and flee to other parts. Meanwhile, the people populating this tiny hierarchical-dominated universe have been plunged into greater confusion, and, it seems, left to pick up the pieces on their own. And their leader sits off some several thousand miles away, pontificating and bragging on his organization's putative mission to provide an "antidote," not just within the confines of his own sorry group, but for the entire inhabited universe. I need a drink!
At first I thought you were talking about the Democrats' presidential campaign.
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In this communique of Bp. Fellay, he makes a couple of references to the Cross as being the world's axis.
I don't recall ever reading or hearing of the Cross as the world's axis. What sort of reference or meaning does it have regarding Catholicism?
He's taking a pot shot at the flat-earthers, is all. Don't worry about it.
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In this communique of Bp. Fellay, he makes a couple of references to the Cross as being the world's axis.
I don't recall ever reading or hearing of the Cross as the world's axis. What sort of reference or meaning does it have regarding Catholicism?
He's taking a pot shot at the flat-earthers, is all. Don't worry about it.
A pot shot at flat-earthers? Are there really all that many flat-earthers attached to the SSPX, so as to cause Bp. Fellay to take a pot shot at them?
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Neil is making a joke Meg. He is not literally taking a shot at people who believe in a flat earth. I don't think he believes that Thier are such people.
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In this communique of Bp. Fellay, he makes a couple of references to the Cross as being the world's axis.
I don't recall ever reading or hearing of the Cross as the world's axis. What sort of reference or meaning does it have regarding Catholicism?
He's taking a pot shot at the flat-earthers, is all. Don't worry about it.
I thought he was taking a potshot at the geocentrists.
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In this communique of Bp. Fellay, he makes a couple of references to the Cross as being the world's axis.
I don't recall ever reading or hearing of the Cross as the world's axis. What sort of reference or meaning does it have regarding Catholicism?
No, that is not what Bishop Fellay means. He is not talking litterally, about a material or physical axis. He means that the Cross is at the center of the history of mankind. And he doesn't mean it in terms of number of years either, but in terms of importance. And he is absolutely right, of course. So what he means is that during Christendom, say, roughly, from Constantine to the French Revolution, most of the known world was believing in Christ and saw Him as the King of Kings, and this became more and more reflected in social life and laws. Starting with the Renaissance, and especially with the Protestant Revolt, society became more and more man-centered, and this was reflected in social life and laws.
This is what he means when he says that there has been a shift from a Cross-centered world to a man-centered one.
I appreciate your explanation. I've not ever heard of this before. Is this idea about the Cross as the world's axis traditional? Has it been referenced by saints or theologians, do you happen to know?
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Perhaps from the Carthusian motto "Stat crux dum volvitur orbis" ("The Cross stands while the world turns").
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As time is measured by the birth of Christ (i.e. BC vs AD), of course the cross is the axis of the world, for without calvary and daily Mass, the world would not exist.
Fellay's newest 'spin' article is as crafty as V2. Notices he says that the "sign" for the restoration is the
"..express desire will of the Supreme Pontiff to grant the means"
(i.e. the pope wills to make a deal with sspx)
"..with which to reestablish the order of the priesthood, of the faith, and of Tradition"
(i.e. the pope formerly re-establishes tradition, through the sspx)
".. sign which will moreover be the guarantee of the necessary unity of the family of Tradition."
(i.e. the sspx will have a GUARANTEE of being their 'trad' selves)
He's just building the momentum. Sound the trumpets! Set the banquet table and get ready for the festival! The Pope wants the sspx to save the Church!
(fine print: in order to 'save the church' you're going to have to agree with V2 and the new mass, which are responsible for destroying the church, but never you mind that. Let's not be NEGATIVE and let's be happy about what we agree on.)
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In this communique of Bp. Fellay, he makes a couple of references to the Cross as being the world's axis.
I don't recall ever reading or hearing of the Cross as the world's axis. What sort of reference or meaning does it have regarding Catholicism?
No, that is not what Bishop Fellay means. He is not talking litterally, about a material or physical axis. He means that the Cross is at the center of the history of mankind. And he doesn't mean it in terms of number of years either, but in terms of importance. And he is absolutely right, of course. So what he means is that during Christendom, say, roughly, from Constantine to the French Revolution, most of the known world was believing in Christ and saw Him as the King of Kings, and this became more and more reflected in social life and laws. Starting with the Renaissance, and especially with the Protestant Revolt, society became more and more man-centered, and this was reflected in social life and laws.
This is what he means when he says that there has been a shift from a Cross-centered world to a man-centered one.
I appreciate your explanation. I've not ever heard of this before. Is this idea about the Cross as the world's axis traditional? Has it been referenced by saints or theologians, do you happen to know?
As I said, Meg, it is not to be taken as a material or physical axis of the world, but a spiritual one. Indeed, the Redemption by the Cross is at the center of Revelation, borth the Old and New Testaments and Tradition. St. Paul is basically repeating it over and over in his epistles. But I will give you this one quote, as I don't have time to search for more:
"Because in him, it hath well pleased the Father, that all fulness should dwell; and through him to reconcile all things unto himself, making peace through the blood of his cross, both as to the things that are on earth, and to the things that are in heaven." (Colossians, 1, 19-20)
Thank you, Patricius. You're interpretation of St. Paul is a good one, but it doesn't mention any reference to any Catholic teaching specifically about Christ's Cross as the World's axis. I really just was hoping that someone could offer this exact phrase in a Catholic teaching context. So far, that's not been provided. Maybe this phrase has a European Catholic context, but not an American one.
It's not really a big deal. The phrase just seems odd to me. And I can't find anything in doing a Google search for the phrase except for New-Age references. Oh, and in his last interview, Bp. Fellay looked a bit out-of-it, a bit zombie-like. Maybe he was just over-tired.
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For the record, I'm actually more concerned about other things said by Bp. Fellay in this communication. That Bp. Fellay can believe that the most extreme modernist pope ever, who hates tradition, could use the SSPX to restore the faith and tradition in the Church is beyond bizarre. It's rediculous. And Bp. Fellay doesn't explain the inherent contradiction. How can the other two SSPX bishops, as well as SSPX priests look at that and not be appalled?
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For the record, I'm actually more concerned about other things said by Bp. Fellay in this communication. That Bp. Fellay can believe that the most extreme modernist pope ever, who hates tradition, could use the SSPX to restore the faith and tradition in the Church is beyond bizarre. It's rediculous. And Bp. Fellay doesn't explain the inherent contradiction. How can the other two SSPX bishops, as well as SSPX priests look at that and not be appalled?
Yes, this is the most important to consider: the blindness and wishful thinking of the General Superior of the most important of Tradition's congregations. He is beyond any possibility of being convinced by any rational argument. He has the bit between the teeth, and there is no stopping him until he has pulled the SSPX wagon back to Rome's dirty stables.
What can cause such blindness? I don't understand it at all. It's very strange that he seems to be so sure that the SSPX will be protected, and that the Pope is on the side of the SSPX.
Is it possible that Bp. Fellay has been influenced by a seer (Marian?) of some sort? I seem to recall that he's been influenced in the past. That's all that I can think of that might account for his strange stance, and that he doesn't address the obvious contradiction.
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Maybe +Fellay isn't blind, but knows exactly what he's doing? Maybe his contradictions are not accidents? Maybe they are meant to confuse and tempt?
As Sherlock Holmes always said: "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
It is impossible that +Fellay continues to make contradictory statements, regarding tradition and modernism, day after day, year after year, by accident.... ESPECIALLY when such comments are not whimsical, or "off the cuff", but are prepared statements, reviewed, thought-out and pre-meditated. It is impossible that these statements are accidental.
Ergo, they are on purpose. Now what is the purpose? The following are the only probable conclusions:
1. He is a modernist, who doesn't realize he is one, and who does not see the contradiction. In this case, he is more dangerous than an actual modernist because he like a drunk person behind the wheel - totally unpredictable and homicidal, except you don't know he's drunk. Yet, you continue to let him drive, even though he's swerving all over the road, because he tells you "he's fine". At some point, you need to force him to stop driving or else you will die with him.
2. He is a modernist, who believes that the society should be 'under rome', at whatever the cost. In this case, he cannot be trusted because he cares not for Truth or tradition and is an outright heretic. He is like a person behind the wheel who intentionally drives off a cliff and TELLS YOU HE WILL DRIVE OFF THE CLIFF - a murderer.
Regardless of which he is, +Fellay cannot be trusted and should be gotten rid of immediately. Or, those that "go along for the ride" will suffer the consequences.
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For the record, I'm actually more concerned about other things said by Bp. Fellay in this communication. That Bp. Fellay can believe that the most extreme modernist pope ever, who hates tradition, could use the SSPX to restore the faith and tradition in the Church is beyond bizarre. It's rediculous. And Bp. Fellay doesn't explain the inherent contradiction. How can the other two SSPX bishops, as well as SSPX priests look at that and not be appalled?
Yes, this is the most important to consider: the blindness and wishful thinking of the General Superior of the most important of Tradition's congregations. He is beyond any possibility of being convinced by any rational argument. He has the bit between the teeth, and there is no stopping him until he has pulled the SSPX wagon back to Rome's dirty stables.
What can cause such blindness? I don't understand it at all. It's very strange that he seems to be so sure that the SSPX will be protected, and that the Pope is on the side of the SSPX.
Is it possible that Bp. Fellay has been influenced by a seer (Marian?) of some sort? I seem to recall that he's been influenced in the past. That's all that I can think of that might account for his strange stance, and that he doesn't address the obvious contradiction.
Possibly. There was a "seer" in the late 1990s, in Switzerland, that Bp Fellay trusted. She was backed heavily by the Swiss District Superior at the time, Fr. Lovey. Bp Fellay talked praisingly of her to SSPX members via the internal bulletin (Cor Unum). As far as I can remember, she was advocating a sort of special Order of Priests of Christ Victim or something. This was to be some kind of spiritual association opened to SSPX priests willing to follow the spirituality "revealed" by the Sacred Heart to that "seer". She said that the SSPX was the special instrument for the triumph of Christ the King, or something along those lines.
In any case, two Society priests, one of them Fr. Daniel Joly, now deceased, paid an unannounced visit to her flat. When she opened the door, she was in pants, smoking a cigarette, and the tv set was on. The priests reported to Bp Fellay and other SSPX seniors, and the whole thing went up in smoke. Bp Fellay then demoted Fr. Lovey. I have never heard that Bp Fellay apologized for misleading the Society. Maybe he did. I don't know.
Now, whether his belief of today, as exemplified in his June 28th statement is the result of this "apparition", or whether this "apparition" was initially approved by him because it corresponded to his personal belief in the first place, it is hard to say. But there is certainly a similarity between the statement and the "apparition".
If Bishop Fellay was naive to trust this "seer" then he is naive to trust the Romans.