Quote from: Charles

... Sick.

The pot calls the kettle black? Facts is facts, fella. Look at history.

What happened in 2006 when the Institute of the Good Shepherd, headquartered in Bordeaux, was established for 5 erstwhile SSPX priests?

Or don't you know about that?

What did +Williamson say in regard to the prospects for the entire Society based on these facts of history?

Or have you forgotten that too?

If you don't know, don't care, or can't be bothered to think, then
you have no foundation to pass judgment on the words of someone who does.

Or did you simply misspell the word, "Sane?"

H.H. BXVI may do 10 things wrong for every 1 thing he does right according to the average trad, but what he has done right has made a difference. Why more don't see that, I can't understand.  

Quote from: Telesphorus

Bishop Fellay is trying to get into "full Communion" with someone like Schoenborn.

No he's not, he's trying to move forward instead of taking the easy road.

Those who think every Cardinal in the VII Church hate the Society are dead wrong. The fruits of VII are rotting and the Church has a few orthodox Cardinals who smell it. That's why we have the likes of Ranjith and Athanasius Schneider speaking out on the disgrace of CITH.

H.H. BXVI's SP has opened the door for Gregorian Rite. Unimpeded, the Canons Regular of St John Catius are promoting the TLM as no other VII clergy have ever done. Look at the Missal they sell. The Angelus Press.

There may be a great deal more WRONG with the VII Church that there is right, but to demand an entire society of orthodox Catholic clergy have nothing to do with it is a selfish demand that comes at the cost of the souls that would be saved if the Society would get in there and fight.

The SSPX has done much good in it's good fight, and the internet has brought their message and warning of the errors of the modernists to the world. +Fellay had full support back when he called BXVI a "perfect liberal" a few years ago, and when he called the bluff in rejecting the ultimatum presented soon after.

His reward ? The lifting of the excommunications by an old man who would probably rather not have been elected to the papacy. And more time to work an agreement to return on his own terms and I his sweet time.

H.H. BXVI may do 10 things wrong for every 1 thing he does right according to the average trad, but what he has done right has made a difference. Why more don't see that, I can't understand.

Good Bless the SSPX and all orthodox clergy.

@ all...
 Please pray for them.

Modernism does have a death grip on him no doubt.

1-They ARE under his authority if they believe he is pope.

2-Nothing. They will continue to be orthodox.

3- If having the (arguably unjust) excommunications lifted,

getting the TLM freed,

and being granted doctrinal talks

all of which were SSPX requests, fall under "unspeakable damage", then we'll just have to settle on disagreeing.

I tend to agree with your assessment of Bp. Fellay.  However, are we not in a much better postion to draw final conclusions after Pentecost?  That is when news of any practical accord is supposed to be revealed by Menzingen.  Beyond that is the scheduled General Chapter meeting in July.  One not very reliable site reported a few days ago that the GC had been cancelled.  But I heard just today, from a very good alternative source, that the rumor of a cancellation is false.  So, it appears, we have two major events on the horizon.  Why don't we all just settle down and let these events unfold? Then we are in a much better position to either condone or condemn.

The first law of the Church is the salvation of souls. I support all the Bishops of the Society.