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« on: January 14, 2014, 01:27:14 PM »
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  • Any thoughts on the presence of Fr. Meramo with Frs. Trincado and Altamira at the first resistance Mass in Bogota last Sunday?
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    « Reply #1 on: January 14, 2014, 01:49:51 PM »
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  • Fr Meramo is good friend of Fr Altamira, and Fr Altamira is good firend of Fr. Trincado. Fr. Meramo lives in Bogotá. Fr Altamira too. Fr Trincado is in Bogotá helping Fr Altamira.


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    « Reply #2 on: January 14, 2014, 05:10:35 PM »
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    Fr Meramo is good friend of Fr Altamira, and Fr Altamira is good firend of Fr. Trincado. Fr. Meramo lives in Bogotá. Fr Altamira too. Fr Trincado is in Bogotá helping Fr Altamira.


     :applause:

    Thank-you for the profound insight. We should all try to be so Well-informed.  
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    « Reply #3 on: January 14, 2014, 05:21:29 PM »
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  • I was referring to this......
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    Quote from: Domitilla
    I would be most grateful if someone would please translate Fr. Meramo's letter into English.  Thanks in advance to anyone who is capable and willing to put forth the effort.



    Pretty rough Google translation, but you can get the jist of Father's meaning:


    Dear Fabian:


    Since Williamson dispatched shamelessly, saying the evidence against resistance began in the spring of last year 2012 in the United States, shows that not only historically false, but that suggests that perverse and crooked intentions.


    If we start talking about the resistance, should distinguish first there was internal resistance within the bosom of the Society of Saint Pius X, because everything started to become visible in the Jubilee of 2000, and through expressions of Bishop Fellay as that "if you call me I run to Rome", "accepted 95% of Vatican II", in addition to all their double talk, loss of energy in combat, the emergence of groups like the GREC and accordistas everything that was woven around, then two years of negotiations with Rome, until the Motu Proprio arises and the lifting of the excommunications alleged primarily which Williamson said and did nothing to denounce against error, as was his duty, warning the faithful and even the priests themselves, for which I was paid stupidly vile and all this game, now belatedly claim.


    After resistance becomes public and manifest, with my challenge to the Motu Proprio legally and theologically legitimating the New Mass bastard (as he called Archbishop Lefebvre) giving even the primacy, while Mass was always relegated to something extraordinary (sporadic ). With this, it legitimized the concubine with all its bastard offspring and corners, taking the lead, the only legitimate wife, and this unfortunately did not see nor nobody complained at the time that I was aware of.


    Now, as a logical consequence, to me I ejected in March 2009, haciéndoseme see through Bishop de Galarreta-on a visit he made to the Priory de Orizaba at least a year before, which obviously hindered them, telling "why I withdrew from the Fraternity".


    Even before my ejection Father Abrahamowicz had separated, but not with a letter expressing the reasons and theological reasons the case. After resigning reacted, Fr Ceriani, Fr Turkish and P. Grosso, for not accepting the Motu Proprio and the lifting of the excommunications, and so far, no chistaba, all silent and accepted, no one said anything.


    And as the Society of St. Pius X, was theologically destroyed, which had reacted, were considered vile outcasts, lepers and even lunatics disposable, dishonored, to the point that now reacted, as the Father Trincado, denied the greeting; even in the Priory of Bogotá fear of the Father Bouchacourt the Prior feared confession, given that policy handling of the sacraments, which as we know, has been denied and denied the faithful disagree.


    This is how things happened, and now if you have responded valiantly many last year, as did the Father Trincado (facing Monsignor Fellay and making almost out tears when he repeated three times on his face to give up!), Acting bravely and vigorously, as befits a pure military know, that does not, however, now that resistance is grouped around Williamson, is the primal, in the best case would be the continuation of what had started long ago, after the scales will fall from the eyes (as happened to St. Paul) see what they saw before.


    So it's a dirty trick, if it is not a simple slip of memory or forgetfulness, which Williamson claims she Resistance began last year in the United States. And if he insists on considering and say well, the only resistance that could have started last year, would be a false resistance somehow he manages and leads, to eclipse, decry and discredit the true intransigent and resistant to the first time, and this would just be the game's criminal fierce ʝʊdɛօ-masonry Vatican to destroy the little that you can truly resist.


    This is what Williamson has to clarify, because as we know, all his actions ambiguous, inconsistent and quirky, making statements that distract the eye from the real problem, because their statements in Germany, seem more conducive to fire outside the castle , to divert attention and penetrate the fortress like a firework look distracts us from the real problem, is how we present a false target to not point to the real, and the target here was the bulwark of the Society of Saint Pius X to be destroyed as it is vile and treacherously by Bishop Fellay and his entourage.


    So Bishop Williamson must answer charges in the following letter against him and clear things up. And if he does not, his silence will confirm what there said it all depends on him, and this judgment that we make.


    P. Basil Meramo


    Bogotá, August 5, 2013.








    I will attempt to make a proper translation of this important letter into standard English over the next few days as I get the leisure to do so.  This is a serious controversy that deserves our closest and most careful attention.


    In Jesus, Mary and Joseph,

    An Anonymous Franciscan in times of great persecution of the One True Faith


    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #4 on: January 14, 2014, 10:12:29 PM »
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    I was referring to this......
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    I would be most grateful if someone would please translate Fr. Meramo's letter into English.  Thanks in advance to anyone who is capable and willing to put forth the effort.



    Pretty rough Google translation, but you can get the jist of Father's meaning:


    Dear Fabian:


    Since Williamson dispatched shamelessly, saying the evidence against resistance began in the spring of last year 2012 in the United States, shows that not only historically false, but that suggests that perverse and crooked intentions.


    If we start talking about the resistance, should distinguish first there was internal resistance within the bosom of the Society of Saint Pius X, because everything started to become visible in the Jubilee of 2000, and through expressions of Bishop Fellay as that "if you call me I run to Rome", "accepted 95% of Vatican II", in addition to all their double talk, loss of energy in combat, the emergence of groups like the GREC and accordistas everything that was woven around, then two years of negotiations with Rome, until the Motu Proprio arises and the lifting of the excommunications alleged primarily which Williamson said and did nothing to denounce against error, as was his duty, warning the faithful and even the priests themselves, for which I was paid stupidly vile and all this game, now belatedly claim.


    After resistance becomes public and manifest, with my challenge to the Motu Proprio legally and theologically legitimating the New Mass bastard (as he called Archbishop Lefebvre) giving even the primacy, while Mass was always relegated to something extraordinary (sporadic ). With this, it legitimized the concubine with all its bastard offspring and corners, taking the lead, the only legitimate wife, and this unfortunately did not see nor nobody complained at the time that I was aware of.


    Now, as a logical consequence, to me I ejected in March 2009, haciéndoseme see through Bishop de Galarreta-on a visit he made to the Priory de Orizaba at least a year before, which obviously hindered them, telling "why I withdrew from the Fraternity".


    Even before my ejection Father Abrahamowicz had separated, but not with a letter expressing the reasons and theological reasons the case. After resigning reacted, Fr Ceriani, Fr Turkish and P. Grosso, for not accepting the Motu Proprio and the lifting of the excommunications, and so far, no chistaba, all silent and accepted, no one said anything.


    And as the Society of St. Pius X, was theologically destroyed, which had reacted, were considered vile outcasts, lepers and even lunatics disposable, dishonored, to the point that now reacted, as the Father Trincado, denied the greeting; even in the Priory of Bogotá fear of the Father Bouchacourt the Prior feared confession, given that policy handling of the sacraments, which as we know, has been denied and denied the faithful disagree.


    This is how things happened, and now if you have responded valiantly many last year, as did the Father Trincado (facing Monsignor Fellay and making almost out tears when he repeated three times on his face to give up!), Acting bravely and vigorously, as befits a pure military know, that does not, however, now that resistance is grouped around Williamson, is the primal, in the best case would be the continuation of what had started long ago, after the scales will fall from the eyes (as happened to St. Paul) see what they saw before.


    So it's a dirty trick, if it is not a simple slip of memory or forgetfulness, which Williamson claims she Resistance began last year in the United States. And if he insists on considering and say well, the only resistance that could have started last year, would be a false resistance somehow he manages and leads, to eclipse, decry and discredit the true intransigent and resistant to the first time, and this would just be the game's criminal fierce ʝʊdɛօ-masonry Vatican to destroy the little that you can truly resist.


    This is what Williamson has to clarify, because as we know, all his actions ambiguous, inconsistent and quirky, making statements that distract the eye from the real problem, because their statements in Germany, seem more conducive to fire outside the castle , to divert attention and penetrate the fortress like a firework look distracts us from the real problem, is how we present a false target to not point to the real, and the target here was the bulwark of the Society of Saint Pius X to be destroyed as it is vile and treacherously by Bishop Fellay and his entourage.


    So Bishop Williamson must answer charges in the following letter against him and clear things up. And if he does not, his silence will confirm what there said it all depends on him, and this judgment that we make.


    P. Basil Meramo


    Bogotá, August 5, 2013.








    I will attempt to make a proper translation of this important letter into standard English over the next few days as I get the leisure to do so.  This is a serious controversy that deserves our closest and most careful attention.


    In Jesus, Mary and Joseph,

    An Anonymous Franciscan in times of great persecution of the One True Faith



    Mr. Centroamerica,

    Please find below my translations from the saintly Fr. Basilio Meramo.  They present perhaps the finest theological analysis of the most critical and cutting-edge contemporary Roman Catholic theological topics to be found in any language without exception.

    May these humble translations assist you in your religious endeavors.  The Catholic Resistance will not get far without supernatural inspiration from the incomparable insights of Fr. Meramo.  It is no exaggeration to perceive him as the true St. Paul of our times.  Nor are we mistaken should we perceive Bishop Luis Madrigal of Guadalajara, Mexico to be the true St. Peter of our times.  Some have foretold that Sts. Peter and Paul will return among us come the Parousia.  True humility would have us recognize that in Fr. Meramo and Bishop Madrigal they have now done so.  Bishop Luis Madrigal is Peter the Roman and Fr. Basilio Meramo is the Divine Herald of the Parousia of Our Lord.

    Needless to say, Fr. Meramo is not to be read or heard with an attitude of superior disdain, but only with humble emotions of the greatest fear and trembling.


    A lowly Fool of Christ sharing hard words of truth with you,

    Franciscan Solitary


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    « Reply #5 on: January 15, 2014, 02:39:06 AM »
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  • Mr. Centroamerica,

    Perhaps the files of the translations are not attaching.  Here is another attempt.

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    « Reply #6 on: January 15, 2014, 05:41:00 AM »
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  • Could you post the originals in Spanish please? And is this bishop you mention linked with the Universidad Autonomo de Guadalajara? Thanks.
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    « Reply #7 on: January 15, 2014, 09:14:51 AM »
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    I was referring to this......
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    I would be most grateful if someone would please translate Fr. Meramo's letter into English.  Thanks in advance to anyone who is capable and willing to put forth the effort.



    Pretty rough Google translation, but you can get the jist of Father's meaning:


    Dear Fabian:


    Since Williamson dispatched shamelessly, saying the evidence against resistance began in the spring of last year 2012 in the United States, shows that not only historically false, but that suggests that perverse and crooked intentions.


    If we start talking about the resistance, should distinguish first there was internal resistance within the bosom of the Society of Saint Pius X, because everything started to become visible in the Jubilee of 2000, and through expressions of Bishop Fellay as that "if you call me I run to Rome", "accepted 95% of Vatican II", in addition to all their double talk, loss of energy in combat, the emergence of groups like the GREC and accordistas everything that was woven around, then two years of negotiations with Rome, until the Motu Proprio arises and the lifting of the excommunications alleged primarily which Williamson said and did nothing to denounce against error, as was his duty, warning the faithful and even the priests themselves, for which I was paid stupidly vile and all this game, now belatedly claim.


    After resistance becomes public and manifest, with my challenge to the Motu Proprio legally and theologically legitimating the New Mass bastard (as he called Archbishop Lefebvre) giving even the primacy, while Mass was always relegated to something extraordinary (sporadic ). With this, it legitimized the concubine with all its bastard offspring and corners, taking the lead, the only legitimate wife, and this unfortunately did not see nor nobody complained at the time that I was aware of.


    Now, as a logical consequence, to me I ejected in March 2009, haciéndoseme see through Bishop de Galarreta-on a visit he made to the Priory de Orizaba at least a year before, which obviously hindered them, telling "why I withdrew from the Fraternity".


    Even before my ejection Father Abrahamowicz had separated, but not with a letter expressing the reasons and theological reasons the case. After resigning reacted, Fr Ceriani, Fr Turkish and P. Grosso, for not accepting the Motu Proprio and the lifting of the excommunications, and so far, no chistaba, all silent and accepted, no one said anything.


    And as the Society of St. Pius X, was theologically destroyed, which had reacted, were considered vile outcasts, lepers and even lunatics disposable, dishonored, to the point that now reacted, as the Father Trincado, denied the greeting; even in the Priory of Bogotá fear of the Father Bouchacourt the Prior feared confession, given that policy handling of the sacraments, which as we know, has been denied and denied the faithful disagree.


    This is how things happened, and now if you have responded valiantly many last year, as did the Father Trincado (facing Monsignor Fellay and making almost out tears when he repeated three times on his face to give up!), Acting bravely and vigorously, as befits a pure military know, that does not, however, now that resistance is grouped around Williamson, is the primal, in the best case would be the continuation of what had started long ago, after the scales will fall from the eyes (as happened to St. Paul) see what they saw before.


    So it's a dirty trick, if it is not a simple slip of memory or forgetfulness, which Williamson claims she Resistance began last year in the United States. And if he insists on considering and say well, the only resistance that could have started last year, would be a false resistance somehow he manages and leads, to eclipse, decry and discredit the true intransigent and resistant to the first time, and this would just be the game's criminal fierce ʝʊdɛօ-masonry Vatican to destroy the little that you can truly resist.


    This is what Williamson has to clarify, because as we know, all his actions ambiguous, inconsistent and quirky, making statements that distract the eye from the real problem, because their statements in Germany, seem more conducive to fire outside the castle , to divert attention and penetrate the fortress like a firework look distracts us from the real problem, is how we present a false target to not point to the real, and the target here was the bulwark of the Society of Saint Pius X to be destroyed as it is vile and treacherously by Bishop Fellay and his entourage.


    So Bishop Williamson must answer charges in the following letter against him and clear things up. And if he does not, his silence will confirm what there said it all depends on him, and this judgment that we make.


    P. Basil Meramo


    Bogotá, August 5, 2013.








    I will attempt to make a proper translation of this important letter into standard English over the next few days as I get the leisure to do so.  This is a serious controversy that deserves our closest and most careful attention.


    In Jesus, Mary and Joseph,

    An Anonymous Franciscan in times of great persecution of the One True Faith



    Mr. Centroamerica,

    Please find below my translations from the saintly Fr. Basilio Meramo.  They present perhaps the finest theological analysis of the most critical and cutting-edge contemporary Roman Catholic theological topics to be found in any language without exception.

    May these humble translations assist you in your religious endeavors.  The Catholic Resistance will not get far without supernatural inspiration from the incomparable insights of Fr. Meramo.  It is no exaggeration to perceive him as the true St. Paul of our times.  Nor are we mistaken should we perceive Bishop Luis Madrigal of Guadalajara, Mexico to be the true St. Peter of our times.  Some have foretold that Sts. Peter and Paul will return among us come the Parousia.  True humility would have us recognize that in Fr. Meramo and Bishop Madrigal they have now done so.  Bishop Luis Madrigal is Peter the Roman and Fr. Basilio Meramo is the Divine Herald of the Parousia of Our Lord.

    Needless to say, Fr. Meramo is not to be read or heard with an attitude of superior disdain, but only with humble emotions of the greatest fear and trembling.


    A lowly Fool of Christ sharing hard words of truth with you,

    Franciscan Solitary


    Ah yes I've heard all about these guys linked with your Bishop in Guadalajara. These are the Tecos. A branch of traditionalists de facto sedevacantists, not necessarily for reasons of the crisis in the faith but because of emnity with the See of Peter since the guerra cristera. These guys are the schismatic spirit AML referred to. They have been at odds with the Society in
    Mexico and tried to harm the Seminary. They formed a group within the seminary in 89 and later left. They are reportedly linked with masonry. They more or less are Masons and receive a lot of funds for their cause. They are also reportedly good friends with the superior of the district of Mexico. Are you suggesting they are linked with Frs. Meramo and Trincado? This will split the resistance in Latin America if that is what you are suggesting.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    « Reply #8 on: January 15, 2014, 10:30:16 AM »
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    I was referring to this......
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    I would be most grateful if someone would please translate Fr. Meramo's letter into English.  Thanks in advance to anyone who is capable and willing to put forth the effort.



    Pretty rough Google translation, but you can get the jist of Father's meaning:


    Dear Fabian:


    Since Williamson dispatched shamelessly, saying the evidence against resistance began in the spring of last year 2012 in the United States, shows that not only historically false, but that suggests that perverse and crooked intentions.


    If we start talking about the resistance, should distinguish first there was internal resistance within the bosom of the Society of Saint Pius X, because everything started to become visible in the Jubilee of 2000, and through expressions of Bishop Fellay as that "if you call me I run to Rome", "accepted 95% of Vatican II", in addition to all their double talk, loss of energy in combat, the emergence of groups like the GREC and accordistas everything that was woven around, then two years of negotiations with Rome, until the Motu Proprio arises and the lifting of the excommunications alleged primarily which Williamson said and did nothing to denounce against error, as was his duty, warning the faithful and even the priests themselves, for which I was paid stupidly vile and all this game, now belatedly claim.


    After resistance becomes public and manifest, with my challenge to the Motu Proprio legally and theologically legitimating the New Mass bastard (as he called Archbishop Lefebvre) giving even the primacy, while Mass was always relegated to something extraordinary (sporadic ). With this, it legitimized the concubine with all its bastard offspring and corners, taking the lead, the only legitimate wife, and this unfortunately did not see nor nobody complained at the time that I was aware of.


    Now, as a logical consequence, to me I ejected in March 2009, haciéndoseme see through Bishop de Galarreta-on a visit he made to the Priory de Orizaba at least a year before, which obviously hindered them, telling "why I withdrew from the Fraternity".


    Even before my ejection Father Abrahamowicz had separated, but not with a letter expressing the reasons and theological reasons the case. After resigning reacted, Fr Ceriani, Fr Turkish and P. Grosso, for not accepting the Motu Proprio and the lifting of the excommunications, and so far, no chistaba, all silent and accepted, no one said anything.


    And as the Society of St. Pius X, was theologically destroyed, which had reacted, were considered vile outcasts, lepers and even lunatics disposable, dishonored, to the point that now reacted, as the Father Trincado, denied the greeting; even in the Priory of Bogotá fear of the Father Bouchacourt the Prior feared confession, given that policy handling of the sacraments, which as we know, has been denied and denied the faithful disagree.


    This is how things happened, and now if you have responded valiantly many last year, as did the Father Trincado (facing Monsignor Fellay and making almost out tears when he repeated three times on his face to give up!), Acting bravely and vigorously, as befits a pure military know, that does not, however, now that resistance is grouped around Williamson, is the primal, in the best case would be the continuation of what had started long ago, after the scales will fall from the eyes (as happened to St. Paul) see what they saw before.


    So it's a dirty trick, if it is not a simple slip of memory or forgetfulness, which Williamson claims she Resistance began last year in the United States. And if he insists on considering and say well, the only resistance that could have started last year, would be a false resistance somehow he manages and leads, to eclipse, decry and discredit the true intransigent and resistant to the first time, and this would just be the game's criminal fierce ʝʊdɛօ-masonry Vatican to destroy the little that you can truly resist.


    This is what Williamson has to clarify, because as we know, all his actions ambiguous, inconsistent and quirky, making statements that distract the eye from the real problem, because their statements in Germany, seem more conducive to fire outside the castle , to divert attention and penetrate the fortress like a firework look distracts us from the real problem, is how we present a false target to not point to the real, and the target here was the bulwark of the Society of Saint Pius X to be destroyed as it is vile and treacherously by Bishop Fellay and his entourage.


    So Bishop Williamson must answer charges in the following letter against him and clear things up. And if he does not, his silence will confirm what there said it all depends on him, and this judgment that we make.


    P. Basil Meramo


    Bogotá, August 5, 2013.








    I will attempt to make a proper translation of this important letter into standard English over the next few days as I get the leisure to do so.  This is a serious controversy that deserves our closest and most careful attention.


    In Jesus, Mary and Joseph,

    An Anonymous Franciscan in times of great persecution of the One True Faith



    Mr. Centroamerica,

    Please find below my translations from the saintly Fr. Basilio Meramo.  They present perhaps the finest theological analysis of the most critical and cutting-edge contemporary Roman Catholic theological topics to be found in any language without exception.

    May these humble translations assist you in your religious endeavors.  The Catholic Resistance will not get far without supernatural inspiration from the incomparable insights of Fr. Meramo.  It is no exaggeration to perceive him as the true St. Paul of our times.  Nor are we mistaken should we perceive Bishop Luis Madrigal of Guadalajara, Mexico to be the true St. Peter of our times.  Some have foretold that Sts. Peter and Paul will return among us come the Parousia.  True humility would have us recognize that in Fr. Meramo and Bishop Madrigal they have now done so.  Bishop Luis Madrigal is Peter the Roman and Fr. Basilio Meramo is the Divine Herald of the Parousia of Our Lord.

    Needless to say, Fr. Meramo is not to be read or heard with an attitude of superior disdain, but only with humble emotions of the greatest fear and trembling.


    A lowly Fool of Christ sharing hard words of truth with you,

    Franciscan Solitary


    Ah yes I've heard all about these guys linked with your Bishop in Guadalajara. These are the Tecos. A branch of traditionalists de facto sedevacantists, not necessarily for reasons of the crisis in the faith but because of emnity with the See of Peter since the guerra cristera. These guys are the schismatic spirit AML referred to. They have been at odds with the Society in
    Mexico and tried to harm the Seminary. They formed a group within the seminary in 89 and later left. They are reportedly linked with masonry. They more or less are Masons and receive a lot of funds for their cause. They are also reportedly good friends with the superior of the district of Mexico. Are you suggesting they are linked with Frs. Meramo and Trincado? This will split the resistance in Latin America if that is what you are suggesting.

    Mr. Centroamerica,

    No, Bishop Luis Madrigal is certainly not the spiritual leader of the group in question.  He is instead the successor to the late Bishop Jose de Jesus Roberto Martinez in valid succession to Archbishop Ngo Dinh Thuc.  The relevant website may be found here:

     www.rexsumego.org.mx

    Also the original Spanish (and French) writings of Fr. Meramo may be easily located at and through the following websites:


    www.meramo.net/AmigosdeMeramo/index.html

    http://tradidiquodaccepi.blogspot.com/


    Not to mention, of course, Radio Cristiandad:

    http://radiocristiandad.wordpress.com/


    One must recommend that you study these holy Catholic sites promptly and with only the greatest and most careful charity and respect.  A pertinent consideration concerning the complete episcopal jurisdiction of Bishop Madrigal is that, in our lifetime, these the Last Days of planet earth and the Parousia of the Lord must also have certain effects on Canon Law.  Because we are at the End of Time, therefore it is licit for the Papacy and Holy Roman Empire to have lapsed.  The Roman Papacy has only been guaranteed to the End of Time and since we are at that point in time, therefore the Roman Papacy is not currently guaranteed any more.  Likewise with the Holy Roman Emperorship and Empire.  At least not until, so to speak, further notice...  

    The true answer and solution to the on-going legalistic squabbles among the Traditional Cathlolics is quite simple:

    The Parousia of Our Lord!  

    Fr. Meramo is correct and ought to be read and listened to with the greatest and most proper humility and reverence.


    Sincerely,

    Franciscan Solitary

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    « Reply #9 on: January 15, 2014, 11:01:49 AM »
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  • Franciscan Solidarity,

    I don't agree with your doomsday personal interpretations concerning the papacy and especially the bishop you mention being Peter the Roman. Sounds like an awful lot of confusion and propaganda. I am familiar with Radio Cristandad and have been receiving regular emails from them since before the resistance formed. Before the letters of the bishops were leaked. It's comical you tell me to read them with the utmost charity and respect when they have proven to show charity and respect for almost no one. In fact, not too long ago they even did a rap song slandering the resistance, something I found to be very juvenile and childish. They latest Osko report they did on the event in Bogotá was full of negative attacking remarks about how the resistance victory there is actually a big failure and attacking non possums for its enthusiasm. To tell me to read them with "charity and respect" is a great big joke that I don't take seriously. For lack of a better word that was stupid. The bishop you mention did attend the SSPX seminary in La Reja and left during the Teco Masonic revolution with all those conspirators if my internet research is not mistaken. The whole movement you seem to be promoting here is a sort of traditionalist cult that has its strings pulled by the Masonic puppet masters in Mexico and the Universidad Autónoma de Guadalajara. Furthermore, I don't believe for a second that this group you mention is affiliated with the resistance fathers in Bogotá. The contrary, though I would have to ask some of the experts on that as it seems the level of infiltration by the Masonic Tecos is huge and extremely secretive.

    God bless.
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    « Reply #10 on: January 15, 2014, 11:06:54 AM »
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  • I agree Fr. Meramo is very intelligent. Other than that I know nothing about him and would have to ask my contacts who perhaps know him personally regarding the position he has taken. Other than that I know he is regarded as an intellectual.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    « Reply #11 on: January 15, 2014, 11:10:14 PM »
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    Franciscan Solidarity,

    I don't agree with your doomsday personal interpretations concerning the papacy and especially the bishop you mention being Peter the Roman. Sounds like an awful lot of confusion and propaganda. I am familiar with Radio Cristandad and have been receiving regular emails from them since before the resistance formed. Before the letters of the bishops were leaked. It's comical you tell me to read them with the utmost charity and respect when they have proven to show charity and respect for almost no one. In fact, not too long ago they even did a rap song slandering the resistance, something I found to be very juvenile and childish. They latest Osko report they did on the event in Bogotá was full of negative attacking remarks about how the resistance victory there is actually a big failure and attacking non possums for its enthusiasm. To tell me to read them with "charity and respect" is a great big joke that I don't take seriously. For lack of a better word that was stupid. The bishop you mention did attend the SSPX seminary in La Reja and left during the Teco Masonic revolution with all those conspirators if my internet research is not mistaken. The whole movement you seem to be promoting here is a sort of traditionalist cult that has its strings pulled by the Masonic puppet masters in Mexico and the Universidad Autónoma de Guadalajara. Furthermore, I don't believe for a second that this group you mention is affiliated with the resistance fathers in Bogotá. The contrary, though I would have to ask some of the experts on that as it seems the level of infiltration by the Masonic Tecos is huge and extremely secretive.

    God bless.

    Mr. Centroamerica,

    Taking the Parousia seriously is not unCatholic.  If we believe in that Article of Faith, then why wouldn't Peter the Roman now be among us?  The Katechon (or obstacle) that prevented the End Times famously consisted of the Holy Roman Emperorship and Papacy.  Clearly the current Head of the House of Hapsburg, the Archduke Karl, is not our Emperor and equally clearly the clownish occupant of the Vatican is not our Holy Father.  Perish the thought...

    Therefore the Katechon, or that which prevents the End of Time, is now removed.  Hence the Parousia must be a most lively possibility among we Roman Çatholics.  Read and hear Father Basilio Meramo for more...

    Please understand my reference to Radio Cristiandad was specifically as a source for the writings and sermons of Fr. Meramo.  Neither Fr. Meramo nor I agree with everything that appears on Radio Cristiandad.  In fact many who appear there are fiercely Anti-Millennialist and therefore in complete opposition to the Ultra-Traditional Catholic Millennialism that Fr. Meramo and I are espousing.

    Not sure where you got the idea that I have suggested we be indulgent towards the current S.S.P.X. bishops.  My loyalty to Fr. Meramo and Bishop Madrigal would seem to indicate anything but that.  No, I am saying we should be humbly respectful of our faithful militant Catholic clergy, namely those few like Fr. Meramo and Bishop Madrigal.  We should regard our rare Fighting Priests with humble fear and trembling.  As for the others, the innumerable faithless "gutless wonders," no, I am not suggesting that we regard them in such a manner.

    Please find below attachments you have requested for a few of the many stunningly brilliant writings of Fr. Meramo in the original Spanish.  These writings are indeed pearls beyond price.  Nothing in the least like them in quality and sheer literary genius can now be found anywhere on earth except in the little remnant flock of our Holy Mother Çhurch, the One True Church, the Church of Rome.  These sacred writings of Fr. Meramo are such impossible miracles of intellectual perfection in our dark time that they alone ought to prove beyond the faintest shadow of any reasonable doubt that the Catholic God of Fr. Meramo can only be God Almighty.


    In Jesus, Mary and Joseph,

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    « Reply #12 on: January 16, 2014, 12:46:49 AM »
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  • Mr. Centroamerica,

    Please find below a copy in the original Spanish of the biography of Bishop Luis Madrigal from his website headquartered in Guadalajara, Mexico.  Please note he has never been in any way associated with the S.S.P.X.  From this biography you can see that he has no connection whatsoever with the wicked Neo-Liberal Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ that regrettably also exists in Guadalajara.

    As mentioned in a previous comment, the web address of this website is:

    www.rexsumego.org.mx/


    Biografía de Monseñor Madrigal:

    Cuando se piensa en el Padre Madrigal lo primero que se viene a la mente es la imagen de un Sacerdote integro, devoto, impulsivo, valiente y dedicado al cuidado de las almas que Dios le ha encomendado.
     
    Del matrimonio formado por José Abdón de Jesús Madrigal Juárez y María Teresa Madrigal, nacieron doce hijos. Uno de ellos, el décimo, vio la luz en la ciudad de Guadalajara, Jalisco, el 21 de Junio de 1970, fue bautizado Luis en honor a la festividad del patrono de la Juventud Católica, San Luis Gonzaga.
     
    Transcurre la tranquilidad de la niñez del Padre Luis como la de cualquier niño, sin embargo esta tranquilidad fue interrumpida por la muerte de su padre cuando el P. Luis contaba con siete años.  Si antes la labor de su madre, Doña teresa, era la de la esposa que coadyuvaba a la formación de sus hijos. Ahora ella se encargaba totalmente de formarlos para que se procuren una vida honesta, llena de trabajos y sacrificios, pero en un ambiente cristiano de santo temor a Dios.
     
    A los catorce años. Luis conoce la capilla donde oficiaba  Mons. Martínez, y desde ese momento, junto con su hermano menor, su madre y sus hermanas comenzó a cuмplir con sus obligaciones religiosas.
     
    A los pocos años, se despierta en Luis cierta inquietud interior, pues las cosas que hacía cotidianamente no le llenaban, a pesar de no irle mal en sus propósitos. El enorme vacío espiritual que sentía le llevaba a preguntarse si la vida sacerdotal no seria su destino. Varios amigos le animaban para que se resolviera a tomar esa dedición, pero lo que era verdad, es que ni el mismo P. Madrigal, lo tenía claro. Sin embargo, una insistente inquietud le hacía pensar cual sería el designio divino.
     
    En estas circunstancias, Luis decide asistir al retiro PRE-seminario, con la intención de descubrir qué era lo que quería Dios de él. Este retiro fue decisivo para él; ahí pregunta que como se sabía si lo que la inquietud que sentía en su interior era manifestación de su vocación. No tardo mucho en darse cuenta, después de oraciones, meditaciones y consejos de sus confesores, de que efectivamente lo que él quería, sin dudarlo, era ser sacerdote de Nuestro Señor.
     
    Un año después, inicia su vida seminarista, en el Seminario de Nuestra Señora Corredentora, donde sólo permanece un año, Continúa en el Seminario de Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe (Argentina), y posteriormente en el instituto Mater Boni Consilii, en Italia. Poco tiempo después regresa a México al lado de Monseñor Martínez quien es el quien lo ordena el 27 de octubre de 1996.
     
    Desde el mismo día en que fue ordenado, comenzó la labor ministerial del Padre Madrigal. Siempre devoto, trabajador, estricto, congruente, de una sola pieza, leal a la Iglesia; pero al mismo tiempo humano y alegre.
     
    Sus sermones están cortados al mero temple de la tradición y de la Iglesia de siempre, por eso son exigentes y en ellos nos habla con claridad y sin eufemismos de la triste crisis en la que la Iglesia yace. Su formación le hace admirar a las personas honestas, leales y que conforman su manera de vivir con lo que dicen sostener en su pensamiento.
     
    Nos habla de los Santos con frecuencia, pero hay dos que siempre destaca: San Juan Bosco y San Bernardo de Claraval. Pues en Don Bosco ve la inspiración para muchas de las actividades que realiza y de la misma manera que el Santo intenta tratar a los jóvenes y a los niños.
     
    Por otro lado, es del monje de Claraval, del que admira su vida, sus obras, sus discursos, su carácter de lucha, su pelea frontal contra los enemigos de la Iglesia y su intenso amor a la Iglesia Católica. De hecho no es casualidad fieles al padre le llamen con admiración, el “padre militar” pues como él dice, a un católico se le debe concebir como un soldado de la Santa Madre Iglesia y a un sacerdote como lo que es; uno de los capitanes que mandan, corrigen y dan ejemplo.
     
    Del sacramento del sacerdocio, el P. Madrigal admira muchos misterios. Pero llaman su atención la infinita bondad con que Dios hace que el sacerdote participe de su sacerdocio a los hombres; y que de esa manera le conceda perdonar los pecados en la Confesión, o abrir las puertas del cielo a sus hijos en el bautismo, arrebatándole al mismo demonio las almas. Pero el misterio de la eucaristía lo impacta sobremanera, pues en nuestro Señor mismo quien desciende cotidianamente al altar. Por todas estas razones, el P. Luis esta consiente del enorme celo que deben tener los sacerdotes por las almas de su rebaño.
     
    Con este pensamiento, organiza actividades de apostolado, como cursos, conferencias, adoraciones nocturnas, campamentos, retiros, entre otras. Y al mismo tiempo trabaja con los jóvenes y niños, puesto que considera que son el blanco de los ataques del demonio, del mundo y de la carne. Le preocupa, por ello, que los niños se formen en un verdadero catolicismo y que sus padres les exijan que sean disciplinados, responsables, rectos, sacrificados e idealistas, “tenemos que trabajar fuertemente por la niñez”, dice el P. Madrigal, por que ellos son el futuro de la Iglesia Católica.
     
    Aunque el P. Madrigal es alegre, sus gustos son sobrios, de esta manera cuando es tiempo de esparcimiento, se da la oportunidad de jugar fútbol con los niños y jóvenes de la feligresía, sin descuidar sus obligaciones y ministerio.
     
    El P. Luis Madrigal, esta convencido y afirma sin cortapisas que la postura dogmática más congruente en conciencia y conforme a la recta razón es la de la sede vacante. El ve en el Vaticano II, el acontecimiento que desgarro desde lo mas profundo a la Iglesia Católica, puesto que sus reformas-doctrinales, disciplinarias, litúrgicas, etc. Afectaron el mismo corazón de lo Católico al contradecirlo y atacarlo ya que sencillamente estos cambios, aunque emanen de la misma Iglesia Oficial, tristemente no son católicas.
     
    Pero por otro lado, también nos ha hecho ver que la posición que sostiene la fraternidad sacerdotal San Pío X, a confundido a infinidad de almas debido a que su fundación hasta esta fecha, su posición a sido ambigua y carente de claridad, por tal motivo el P. Madrigal no tiene acercamiento alguno con dicha fraternidad, pues la considera una extensión del modernismo, a pesar de las ceremonias en latín.
     
    Conforme va trascurriendo el tiempo, el P. Madrigal sigue trabajando en su apostolado y junto con su feligresía han hecho varios avances para construir una capilla aunque sencilla, lo mas decorosa posible para ofrecer culto a nuestro Señor Jesucristo.
     
    Hace poco más de dos años, sin embargo, un acontecimiento inquietaría bastante al P. Madrigal, pues en una entrevista sostenida entre él y Mons. Louis Vezelis delante de Mons. Martínez  se habló por primera vez de consagrarlo Obispo. En esa ocasión el Padre declina gentilmente la invitación. La segunda vez que Mons. Louis Vezelis hace la invitación al P. Madrigal fue cuando lo visito en Rochester, en un par de meses antes que viniera a impartir las confirmaciones.
     
    La tercera ocurre durante la visita de Mons. Vezelis a la Capilla de Cristo Rey donde esté insistió sobrla importancia de la consagración.
     
    Solo después de unos meses el P. Madrigal lo acepta.
     
    En una carta, él nos explica que la razón por la cual no aceptaba dicha consagración, era en primer lugar, sin intentar caer en una falsa humildad, que no se sentía digno de gracia tan grande. En segundo, que no había necesidad de un Obispo mas, pues podíamos ser asistidos por el mismo Mons. Vezelis o por Mons. Diles y en tercero, que esta de moda intentar buscar el episcopado por parte de los sacerdotes y que el no deseaba actuar de esa manera. Sin embargo, después de pensarlo una y otra vez este cuestiono que si en realidad no estaría oponiéndose a la voluntad de Dios, por lo que decide aceptar y tomar las providencias necesarias, afrontando lo que Dios quiera. Pues no ha dicho en numerosas ocasiones, si Dios quiere, que permita que se lleve a cabo la consagración; pero también si es no, entonces que no lo permita.
     
    El Padre ha decidido que si es voluntad de Dios el lema de su Obispado, sea “REX SUM EGO”, por que en este se encierra el dictamen de la divina realeza de Cristo, es decir, en ella Nuestro Señor Jesucristo, se declara Rey y sostiene que para ser rey ha venido “…PARA ESO NACI Y PARA ESTO VINE AL MUNDO, PARA DAR TESTIMONIO DE LA VERDAD”. Por esta razón, sostiene el P. Madrigal, que en todo momento su apostolado episcopal, será esforzarse para que se cuмplan las palabras del Pater noster, “advenían regué tul”. Pues digno que el cordero que ha sido inmolado por sus criaturas reciba el poder, la divinidad, la sabiduría, el honor, la gloria, el imperio por siempre, sobre todo lo creado, pues no es otro el concepto glorioso que tiene de su rey y de su Dios la Santa Madre Iglesia Católica.
     
    Pero además, el programa de su episcopado será realizar lo que la Iglesia Católica tiene contemplado para los Obispos, esto es, predicar la Doctrina evangélica, custodiar el depósito de la fe y cuidar celosamente la administración de los sacramentos.
     
    En fin, termina aquí esta pincelada de la personalidad de este sacerdote, que con sus virtudes y sus defectos, que no niega, su único deseo es la salvación de su alma y que siempre ha tenido presente, luchar por extender el reinado de Nuestro Señor Jesucristo en su Iglesia.


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    « Reply #13 on: January 16, 2014, 11:19:06 AM »
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    Mr. Centroamerica,

    Please find below a copy in the original Spanish of the biography of Bishop Luis Madrigal from his website headquartered in Guadalajara, Mexico.  Please note he has never been in any way associated with the S.S.P.X.  From this biography you can see that he has no connection whatsoever with the wicked Neo-Liberal Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ that regrettably also exists in Guadalajara.

    As mentioned in a previous comment, the web address of this website is:

    www.rexsumego.org.mx/


    Biografía de Monseñor Madrigal:
     
     
    Un año después, inicia su vida seminarista, en el Seminario de Nuestra Señora Corredentora, donde sólo permanece un año, Continúa en el Seminario de Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe (Argentina), y posteriormente en el instituto Mater Boni Consilii, en Italia. Poco tiempo después regresa a México al lado de Monseñor Martínez quien es el quien lo ordena el 27 de octubre de 1996.




    FYI: the Seminary Nuestra Señora Corredentora in Argentina is the Seminary of the SSPX!!!!!
    As a seminarian he would've been considered a member of the SSPX. Also, contrary to everything you say he did leave with the 1989 provocations at the Seminary by the Masonic infiltration of the Tecos and shortly after went to the institue Mater Boni Consilii. You stated the very evidence you deny before stating it. You are definitely a very confused soul. Prayers for you.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #14 on: January 17, 2014, 11:04:45 AM »
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    Mr. Centroamerica,

    Please find below a copy in the original Spanish of the biography of Bishop Luis Madrigal from his website headquartered in Guadalajara, Mexico.  Please note he has never been in any way associated with the S.S.P.X.  From this biography you can see that he has no connection whatsoever with the wicked Neo-Liberal Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ that regrettably also exists in Guadalajara.

    As mentioned in a previous comment, the web address of this website is:

    www.rexsumego.org.mx/


    Biografía de Monseñor Madrigal:
     
     
    Un año después, inicia su vida seminarista, en el Seminario de Nuestra Señora Corredentora, donde sólo permanece un año, Continúa en el Seminario de Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe (Argentina), y posteriormente en el instituto Mater Boni Consilii, en Italia. Poco tiempo después regresa a México al lado de Monseñor Martínez quien es el quien lo ordena el 27 de octubre de 1996.




    FYI: the Seminary Nuestra Señora Corredentora in Argentina is the Seminary of the SSPX!!!!!
    As a seminarian he would've been considered a member of the SSPX. Also, contrary to everything you say he did leave with the 1989 provocations at the Seminary by the Masonic infiltration of the Tecos and shortly after went to the institue Mater Boni Consilii. You stated the very evidence you deny before stating it. You are definitely a very confused soul. Prayers for you.

    Mr. Centroamerica,

    While nowadays it is often difficult to avoid defeatism, it is best not to view everything in the most negative light possible.  Bishops Martinez and Madrigal did receive support from the "Tecos" back in the 1980s but completely broke with them in 1991 because they refused to be the puppets the "Tecos" had intended for them to be.  The troubles in the La Reja Seminary in 1989 were not simply a Masonic Plot but primarily a genuine disagreement over principle.

    Truth is also an epic confrontation between Good and Evil, between Darkness and the Light.  It is not a sad and dreary sinking into inevitable defeat.  Therefore we have Catholic heroes to be proud of and Fr. Meramo and Bishop Madrigal are among the prime examples of such great Catholic heroes in our time.

    It were wise for us to be humbly grateful for the Great Champions of our Faith and resist the temptation to be merely small-minded poltergeists against them.  At the very least we can simply say nothing about them at all.  At least that would maintain proper Roman manners and politeness among us.

    Please desist from your disrespectful remarks against our courageous Bishop Luis Madrigal and perhaps even the great Fr. Meramo.  It is the least you could do.  We have entered into an Age of Catholic Heroes and we should now live accordingly.


    Yours in Christ, the God of Heroes and Warriors,

    Franciscan Solitary