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« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2013, 10:13:17 AM »
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Oh I see about the cassok. Did not pay attention to that. Dangerous to be outside with it in the "friendly world we live in"?  

Not at all, especially not in England now. The streets are full of men in "robes" - Greek and Russian Orthodox, mullahs, imams, perhaps even a druid or two? (Also, the SSPX lay brothers here seem to wear cassocks all the time - perhaps because it's their religious habit.)

I think it is important. The Archbishop insisted on it from the beginning for the students in Fribourg in 1969, even though the less confident found it difficult and even alarming, as they were the only ones dressed like that in the whole university. (Mentioned in +Tissier's biography of ABL.)

It's a sad fact that from the beginning the priests of the GB District have worn suits in public. I don't know why. One reason I heard was that otherwise people would think they were High Anglicans! But Anglicans in cassocks must be as rare as hen's teeth now.

The 1970's-style black shirt with "visiting card" collar just says "Vatican II priest". My older Protestant relations say they expect Catholic priests to wear cassocks and are very surprised the SSPX doesn't. They remember them in the streets before Vatican II. (Not all wore them, certainly, but the ones who wore suits were taken to be Protestants, so weren't noticed!)

But a cassock does preach a sermon. The French SSPX priests stationed in England refused to wear suits. Fr. Eric Simonot was in Wimbledon in the 80's and he said it was a wonderful way of getting to talk to people. They would stop him in the street or talk to him in shops and he was able to tell them who he was and what he doing. A chance the others are missing.

Do the SSPX priests in America wear cassocks in public?  


Always.


And look how far it got the majority of them....

Look- all I'm saying is that the interior of the man- his mind and teachings on the faith- are infinitely more important to me than his garb. I don't understand why some Traditional Catholics split hairs on matters like this which are not important to the Faith; I think the bishop has more than proven his Catholic worth. He isn't walking around in a Hawaiian shirt or anything. There may be many reasons for the man to wear what he did when and where he did in this video, and while traveling. He has the permission of the Church prior to Vatican II being in a Protestant, non-Catholic country; not to mention that its not normal garb for him.

This is silly.


And imagine how far they might have fallen without it!

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« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2013, 10:13:17 AM »
Cassock related, I met Fr Hewko a few 'blocks away' from the hall.As I walked the street I saw a towering figure in a cassock ahead of me. Sure enough it was Fr Hewko.


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« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2013, 10:18:37 AM »
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Again, how about we talk about the content of His Excellency's talk? I commend him for talking to non-Catholics and being unashamed to expound upon the truths of the Faith. If you are really curious and nearly scandalized that the bishop is wearing a clerical suit, why don't you ask him personally about his choice to wear a clerical suit?

Seriously, the fact that the bishop is out there in the world preaching the Gospel and connecting it with history and politics instead of laying low and maybe saying a few public Masses here and there is something TO BE COMMENDED. It is almost irrational to focus on such an inconsequential issue. Is Bishop Willilamson somehow a liberal now because he chose to wear a clerical suit at this particular talk?

Also, I am fully aware of what the Archbishop said about the wearing of the cassock.

I think some within the "resistance" need to have a clearer focus.




Thank you for having the honesty for stating your willingness to blow off the teachings of ABL, in order to support "in toto" Bishop WIlliamson.

This personality worship would not be approved by Bishop Williamson, and he would not respect you for deliberately overlooking a theological issue.

He should be wearing the cassock everywhere.

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« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2013, 10:20:54 AM »
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One more point...

I would rather have a priest/bishop who has a clear vision of the dangers of modernism and liberalism (I see no contradiction) but who may occasionally wear the clerical suit than one who wears the cassock but who is corrupted with those false principles.


I would rather have one who had both.

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« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2013, 10:28:26 AM »
Sean:

And thank you for claiming that I am a Bishop Williamson zombie. If you knew me, you would not have stated such. I don't agree with everything the Bishop says and does. Oh well, I will let your statement pass.

My point is that people are MISSING the big picture. A fixation on this small issue in this particular context is what frustrates me. Ask yourself Sean, what is the good that Bishop Williamson is doing at this talk. Is the fact that the bishop is wearing a clerical suit at this talk actually detracting from the message?

Again, go ask the bishop if you are scandalized.

The wearing of the cassock is not a theological issue. Please don't overstate your case. You need to make proper distinctions.

Again, this thread is so ridiculous. Someone posts a video of the bishop speaking to non-Catholics at a public forum and he gets criticized for wearing a clerical suit. Where is the sense of perspective?