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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: trento on April 23, 2013, 10:46:40 AM
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Bishop Richard Williamson will visit Germany in the next days according to the webpage katholisches.info. Williamson will consecrate a chapel of sisters in Häusern, southern Germany, and visit the Carmelite nuns of Brilon Wald who have left the FSSPX some weeks ago. Further the bishop will be the guest of a Sedevacantist Mass centre in Wigratzbad. According to katholisches.info, in Germany a split between followers of the FSSPX and followers of bishop Williamson is imminent.
Source: http://gloria.tv/?media=433007 (http://gloria.tv/?media=433007)
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He will certainly need our prayers whilst in that ungodly country.
May God send His angels to guard him and keep him from harm.
:pray: :pray: :pray:
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Bishop Richard Williamson will visit Germany in the next days according to the webpage katholisches.info. Williamson will consecrate a chapel of sisters in Häusern, southern Germany, and visit the Carmelite nuns of Brilon Wald who have left the FSSPX some weeks ago. Further the bishop will be the guest of a Sedevacantist Mass centre in Wigratzbad. According to katholisches.info, in Germany a split between followers of the FSSPX and followers of bishop Williamson is imminent.
Source: http://gloria.tv/?media=433007 (http://gloria.tv/?media=433007)
What congregation do the sisters in Häusern belong to? And are they former SSPX proteges, or independent, or sedevacantist, or what?
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It is good to hear that the Bishop will visit the Carmelites in Germany.
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What congregation do the sisters in Häusern belong to? And are they former SSPX proteges, or independent, or sedevacantist, or what?
The Sisters are Benedictines OSB.
They left the Newchurch in 1989/1990 and are since then independent.
Their independent monastery is called Kloster Marienberg in the South-German town Häusern in the impressive Schwarzwald (Black Forest in English).
Archbishop Lefebvre consecrated the monastery on 28 April 1990. It doesn't belong to the SSPX.
The monastery's chaplain Fr Riedl is a brave, faithful, independent priest (consecrated in 1976 in Eichstätt, Germany). He was a friend of Archbishop Lefebvre and follows his course.
Further the bishop will be the guest of a Sedevacantist Mass centre in Wigratzbad.
That's the brave Fr Hermann Weinzierl's (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=19506&min=23) chapel in the famous Marian pilgrimage site in the little town Wigratzbad.
This is what we know. But please don't trust the German website Katholisches.info which the Austrian website Gloria.tv just quotes. Katholisches-info is aggressively anti-Bishop-Williamson and their linked text mixes a few truths with half-truths and many untruths.
God bless Bishop Richard "Lionheart" Williamson and all other Roman-Catholic clerics holding up the Faith.
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What congregation do the sisters in Häusern belong to? And are they former SSPX proteges, or independent, or sedevacantist, or what?
They're adoration Sisters, formed in'88 from an older convent of 'Precious Blood Sisters' who went all indulty...
There's something about them on the Asia District website here:
http://www.sspxasia.com/Docuмents/Society_of_Saint_Pius_X/Vocations/Womens-Communities/Chap-14-Precious-Blood-Sisters.htm
Their address:
Anbetungskloster Marienberg
Haselwies 10
79837
HÄUSERN
Germnay
As far as I know they're not sede... they used to be allied to the SSPX.
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What congregation do the sisters in Häusern belong to? And are they former SSPX proteges, or independent, or sedevacantist, or what?
The Sisters are Benedictines OSB.
They left the Newchurch in 1989/1990 and are since then independent.
Their independent monastery is called Kloster Marienberg in the South-German town Häusern in the impressive Schwarzwald (Black Forest in English).
Archbishop Lefebvre consecrated the monastery on 28 April 1990. It doesn't belong to the SSPX.
The monastery's chaplain Fr Riedl is a brave, faithful, independent priest (consecrated in 1976 in Eichstätt, Germany). He was a friend of Archbishop Lefebvre and follows his course.
Further the bishop will be the guest of a Sedevacantist Mass centre in Wigratzbad.
That's the brave Fr Hermann Weinzierl's (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=19506&min=23) chapel in the famous Marian pilgrimage site in the little town Wigratzbad.
This is what we know. But please don't trust the German website Katholisches.info which the Austrian website Gloria.tv just quotes. Katholisches-info is aggressively anti-Bishop-Williamson and their linked text mixes a few truths with half-truths and many untruths.
God bless Bishop Richard "Lionheart" Williamson and all other Roman-Catholic clerics holding up the Faith.
Oh! Our posts must have crossed. I defer to Ethelred's greater knowledge...
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Oh! Our posts must have crossed. I defer to Ethelred's greater knowledge...
Oh no, your details are very good, thanks for them.
Your keyword is good: convent of 'Precious Blood Sisters', Schwestern vom Kostbaren Blut.
I think their convent is a branch of the Benedictines. Corrections welcome.
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Ethelred, does it pose any danger to Bp. Williamson to visit Germany now? I mean, could they apprehend him on any outstanding charge?
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Oh! Our posts must have crossed. I defer to Ethelred's greater knowledge...
Oh no, your details are very good, thanks for them.
Your keyword is good: convent of 'Precious Blood Sisters', Schwestern vom Kostbaren Blut.
I think their convent is a branch of the Benedictines. Corrections welcome.
I don't believe there is an apparent link to the Benedictine Order in the case of the Schwestern vom Kostbaren Blut (SPPS), unlike the Missionary Sisters of the Precious Blood (CPS), Missionsschwestern vom Kostbaren Blut of similar sounding name but entirely different origin.
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http://www.sspxasia.com/Docuмents/Society_of_Saint_Pius_X/Vocations/Womens-Communities/Chap-14-Precious-Blood-Sisters.htm
It seems the name is Töchter Mariens vom kostbaren Blut (Daughters of Mary of the precious blood)
http://pius.info/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=1062&Itemid=
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Thanks Pyrrhos and Marion. So, it's a complicated origin. :-)
Still, very brave Catholic sisters with a good and experienced chaplain. By the way, also (external) laypeople attend this traditional Catholic mass center there.
does it pose any danger to Bp. Williamson to visit Germany now? I mean, could they apprehend him on any outstanding charge?
I think that if the brave bishop keeps a bit of a low profile (for example doesn't talk about the h0Ɩ0h0αx in public television), I think it could work. Also he appealed, so is the charge in abeyance then?
Generally there's always a danger for an upright Roman-Catholic bishop to visit countries which are controlled by the oldest Enemies of Our Lord, the money masters. Like Germany, Austria, France (see "Lex Faurisson"), Canada (see Zündel trials), USA (see Kennedey assassination via crossfire), and most of the Western World. But I'm sure he knows that, and he's a brave bishop and so God will guide him.
He will certainly need our prayers whilst in that ungodly country.
Germany as state is basically as ungodly as similar other former Catholic states, including France. These countries are today in the hand of the oldest Enemies of Our Lord, because we Catholics (i.e. globally, universally) are so weak. See EC 225 (5 November 2011) (http://eleisonkommentar.blogspot.com/2011/11/ec-225-verschworungstheorien.html).
Still Germany has been one of Archbishop Lefebvre's main piers for his traditional movement. When today most German-speaking traditional Catholics blindly follow the liberal Superior General's transformation of the SSPX into the Ne-SSPX', they in their majority do so because of the universal liberalism amongst Catholics. Bishop Williamson warned against this sliding into liberalism for decades.
Anyway, it's a great honour for the true Germany (not equaling the "Federal Republic of Germany" farce) and for every upright German, when His Excellency Bishop Williamson is going to set foot again on our soil. His strong faith and love for truth is an example for all of us. Let's escort him with our prayers.
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I respect the members of our SSPX parish who are with the Holy Resistance and no longer attend the local Fellayite chapel...I myself am going much less...the Maronite Mass in Greer is an option...but not a very good one....Bp Fellay says that Vatican II is part of Tradition..it's not...He says that the New Mass is valid AND legitimate...it's not..The ArchBp taught that it's a "slow poison"..and a "bastard Mass.."....bp Williamson was setup and expelled by the enemies of the true SSPX
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Germany has no statute of limitations on the 'crime' of h0Ɩ0cαųst denial. Irving was arrested there ten years after he had given a conference, iirc.
From phone
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I could be wrong, but since Bishop Williamson appealed against his latest conviction, I think the verdict is not legally valid, until the appeal is decided in a court.
Some expert in German law, maybe? Krah? (Just kidding about that one, really.)
I suppose the bishop's consulted his lawyers before he decided to undertake this journey. One Richard Lionheart imprisoned in some Austrian castle was enough. :-)
Soon, we're going to know more either way.
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If Jack Straw, a vile politician who hates everything English, while in government can place General Pinochet under house arrest on the strength of some opportunistic Spanish lawyer citing human rights abuses, anything is possible. If powerful forces see an opportunity to showcase a response to challenges to their position, they can engineer an event just to make an example of someone daring to do that. In that respect Bp. W is now only useful to them in representing an undefined population of traditional Catholics of a certain kind and maybe being regarded as a high profile 'h0Ɩ0cαųst denier'. There is now less point in using him to target an apologetic SSPX or the Vatican under a liberation theologist.
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Germany has no statute of limitations on the 'crime' of h0Ɩ0cαųst denial. Irving was arrested there ten years after he had given a conference, iirc.
From phone
:shocked:
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Further the Bishop [Williamson] will be the guest of a Sedevacantist Mass centre in Wigratzbad. According to katholisches.info
Bishop Williamson doesn't visit this resistance chapel in the wonderful pilgrimace place Wigratzbad (http://goo.gl/maps/KzaQD) this time. It's just another desinformation of "katholisches.info". (Maybe the article's author Linus S. had Krah as Ghost-Writer... (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Fr-Niklaus-Pflugers-letter-to-Bishop-Williamson), too?)
Btw, there's a priest seminary of the FSSP there, next to the ugly diocesan church building.
Anyway, this little village is a well-frequented place and I'm sure the brave Fr Weinzierl will see more laymen coming to his Holy Masses. There's a group in his old SSPX parish which doesn't agree with Menzingen's sellout and are looking for alternatives.
in Germany a split between followers of the [Neo-] FSSPX and followers of bishop Williamson is imminent.
I hope so. ("Neo" clarification inserted by me.)
Also Fr. J. Pfeiffer will visit Germany soon. Hopefully he can give a jump start to his German priest-brothers. There are some very talented priests here who only wait for a suitable moment.
But, patience. All is in God's hands.
God bless Bishop Williamson, and again thank you for the bravery to visit our country despite the persecution of the Jews' lackeys here.
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I heard that the brave Bishop Williamson visited the German Carmel (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Neo-SSPX-about-to-lose-its-German-Carmel) successfully, and is going to look after them as a bishop from now on. I think this is great news.
This elder bishop does do such a good work all over the world. And he's such a clear thinking Catholic who brings God's truth (and in particular the incarnated truth) to all these people and places, wherever he is. Who couldn't love him? We here do for sure.
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I heard that the brave Bishop Williamson also visited and lectured the resisting German Catholics successfully, and is continuing to look after them as a bishop. I think this is great news.
I also heard that he even used the train to drive around Germany! He's not afraid of the money masters controlling Germany since 1945, because he's with God.
Or, like a friend put it very well: Bishop Williamson is indeed one of the greatest of the workers in Our Lord’s vineyard. I suspect he is one of the last modern apostles in this dark age of the Church. God bless him!