Author Topic: Bishop Williamson the caged Lion (Read 2776 times)

sspxbvm · « **on:** August 07, 2012, 05:41:22 PM »

Was comparing Bishop Williamson to a lion earlier today. He roars and we hear him speaking the truth but as long as he is caged (by an sspx quickly losing the faith) he can do no good to keep tradition alive. If he is released then the very life of tradition will have hope. Is this what Bishop Fellay is trying to keep away from? Does he think by expelling Bishop Williamson he will be keeping tradition alive? Is this his greatest fear? That the pope might be mad at him if he makes the wrong move by expelling Bishop Williamson and thereby extending the life of the Catholic Church?

The Catholic Church will always be but I really don't see Bishop Williamson being expelled because that will cause too big a quake and wake up too many people AND it will give tradition a strong hold once again.

Incredulous · « **Reply #1 on:** August 07, 2012, 05:53:42 PM »

Quote from: sspxbvm

Was comparing Bishop Williamson to a lion earlier today. He roars and we hear him speaking the truth but as long as he is caged (by an sspx quickly losing the faith) he can do no good to keep tradition alive. If he is released then the very life of tradition will have hope. Is this what Bishop Fellay is trying to keep away from? Does he think by expelling Bishop Williamson he will be keeping tradition alive? Is this his greatest fear? That the pope might be mad at him if he makes the wrong move by expelling Bishop Williamson and thereby extending the life of the Catholic Church?

The Catholic Church will always be but I really don't see Bishop Williamson being expelled because that will cause too big a quake and wake up too many people AND it will give tradition a strong hold once again.

If the Blessed Virgin intercedes, the Lion of Wimbledon will be released and roar again!

When he does, the big Swiss chocolate along with his French croissant boys
and German bagel boys will run into hiding or join the FFSP.

nadieimportante · « **Reply #2 on:** August 07, 2012, 08:04:51 PM »

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When he does, the big Swiss chocolate along with his French croissant boys
and German bagel boys will run into hiding or join the FFSP

I thought you meant to say the German pretzel boys, then I remembered Kah, and got it. Very good.

Incredulous · « **Reply #3 on:** August 07, 2012, 08:26:56 PM »

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When he does, the big Swiss chocolate along with his French croissant boys
and German bagel boys will run into hiding or join the FFSP

I thought you meant to say the German pretzel boys, then I remembered Kah, and got it. Very good.

You got it Nadieimportante.
There's a kosher recipe being used in the German and Swis Districts these days.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #4 on:** August 07, 2012, 08:57:19 PM »

Quote from: sspxbvm

Was comparing Bishop Williamson to a lion earlier today. He roars and we hear him speaking the truth but as long as he is caged (by an sspx quickly losing the faith) he can do no good to keep tradition alive. If he is released then the very life of tradition will have hope. Is this what Bishop Fellay is trying to keep away from? Does he think by expelling Bishop Williamson he will be keeping tradition alive? Is this his greatest fear? That the pope might be mad at him if he makes the wrong move by expelling Bishop Williamson and thereby extending the life of the Catholic Church?

The Catholic Church will always be but I really don't see Bishop Williamson being expelled because that will cause too big a quake and wake up too many people AND it will give tradition a strong hold once again.

It has been reported that it was the Vatican that has told the Society not to expel Bishop Williamson.

The SSPX has thrown priests out on the street at the drop of a hat in the past.

If they are showing any hesitation now it is not because of any sense of moral restraint on their part.

sspxbvm · « **Reply #5 on:** August 07, 2012, 09:45:40 PM »

It has been reported that it was the Vatican that has told the Society not to expel Bishop Williamson.

The SSPX has thrown priests out on the street at the drop of a hat in the past.

If they are showing any hesitation now it is not because of any sense of moral restraint on their part.[/quote]

If this is indeed true then am I not correct in saying that satanic Rome fears the Catholicism of Bishop Williamson? And Bishop Fellay has turned traitor? God help us!

If His Excellency Bishop Williamson does not soon withdraw himself I may start having doubts in all 4 bishops!!

Telesphorus · « **Reply #6 on:** August 07, 2012, 09:47:50 PM »

There are very good reasons to not withdraw. It must be the choice of the leadership of the SSPX to drive out Bishop Williamson. He should not abandon ship while there's any hope left.

sspxbvm · « **Reply #7 on:** August 07, 2012, 10:02:49 PM »

The only hope (of course there is always hope with God) would be for Bishop Williamson to make new bishops and start re building. A good reason to stay would be in order for him to show people how many things he said and did in opposition to Bishop Fellay and yet got no expulsion for it. But this would still require him at some point to leave willingly.

Our greatest fear and the likely inevitable would be something to happen to Bishop Williamson and the Church to appear to be dead. We are HANGING ON A STRING right now. It is God's will that His Church suffer on this cross as He did and it is Him who will bring the Church back to full strength but for the now poisoned SSPX to now willingly give themselves to Rome in some future date and Bishop Williamson some how not able to help would seemingly be a death nail for the Church. Perhaps EXACTLY what God is waiting for so He can exult His mother and His Church triumphantly. This would fit into Catholic prophecy but woe to us who inhabit the earth. Savior of the world, Save us!

Wondering if the faithful sspx priests/bishops might just keep the name of Society of Saint Pius X as it is them who are keeping in line with the good Archbishop. Of Course, for legal reasons that's probably not possible.

Incredulous · « **Reply #8 on:** August 07, 2012, 11:43:28 PM »

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There are very good reasons to not withdraw. It must be the choice of the leadership of the SSPX to drive out Bishop Williamson. He should not abandon ship while there's any hope left.

So if newRome doesn't want Bp. Williamson expelled, could it be they think they have more control of him and Bp. Tissier and Bp. de Galaretta
by keeping them isolated inside the SSPX ?

What could they be concerned about?
Are they afraid of three expelled Bishops reforming into a formidable
SSPX resistance group that starts ordaining more bishops?

Are they trying to buy more time to implement a character-assassination program (another anti-h0Ɩ0cαųst media campaign)? They must be coordinating some campaign to neutralize the three Bishops, since they recently stated they'd deal with them individually.

PAT317 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 08, 2012, 12:22:37 AM »

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So if newRome doesn't want Bp. Williamson expelled, could it be they think they have more control of him and Bp. Tissier and Bp. de Galaretta
by keeping them isolated inside the SSPX ?

What could they be concerned about?
Are they afraid of three expelled Bishops reforming into a formidable
SSPX resistance group that starts ordaining more bishops?

I would say, "bingo!"

Ethelred · « **Reply #10 on:** August 08, 2012, 02:47:08 AM »

Quote from: sspxbvm

Was comparing Bishop Williamson to a lion earlier today. He roars and we hear him speaking the truth but as long as he is caged (by an sspx quickly losing the faith) he can do no good to keep tradition alive.

Well, he's doing a lot to keep the Catholic tradition alive. For example by publishing a weekly sermon for years now, which is one great application of the Faith to our modern world and hence to our daily lives. Then his interviews and conferences keep the Catholic tradition alive, too.

Did you watch his 9 hour Bristol conference from June 2012? It's very helpful and he covers a very large range of important topics. His clear words combined with his very humorously way to put it (including some hilarious plays) really do keep Catholic tradition alive in a way which no other person currently could. He's a man of God and without doubt the true follower of Archbishop Lefebvre.

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If His Excellency Bishop Williamson does not soon withdraw himself I may start having doubts in all 4 bishops!!

I know what you mean with "caged". But no need to worry, because Bishop Williamson will always fight for the Faith and help in keeping the Catholic tradition alive. He will do so inside or outside the SSPX. Let's wait and see what happens. The good Lord will lead his bishop.

It's well possible we now entered a period of "time where the soldier has to fight without banner" (*). Yes, it indeed looks like we just (re-) entered the time of the catacombs.

(*) That's a quotation from the famous German writer and world wars (plural) veteran Ernst Jünger. Later he converted to the Catholic Church (from protestantism) when he was about 100 years old, in the year 2000 or so. His original words were roughly: „Es kommt die Zeit, wo der Soldat ohne Fahne kämpfen muß“. I'd apply this to us Christian soldiers today.

Cristera · « **Reply #11 on:** August 08, 2012, 10:13:02 AM »

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It's well possible we now entered a period of "time where the soldier has to fight without banner" (*). Yes, it indeed looks like we just (re-) entered the time of the catacombs.

Very well said Ethelred. I just want to add that our dear Bishop is fighting under the banner who really matter: The banner of Christ the King.

VIVA CRISTO REY!
VIVA MONSEÑOR WILLIAMSON!

Incredulous · « **Reply #12 on:** August 08, 2012, 01:05:04 PM »

Quote from: Ethelred

Quote from: sspxbvm
Was comparing Bishop Williamson to a lion earlier today. He roars and we hear him speaking the truth but as long as he is caged (by an sspx quickly losing the faith) he can do no good to keep tradition alive.

Well, he's doing a lot to keep the Catholic tradition alive. For example by publishing a weekly sermon for years now, which is one great application of the Faith to our modern world and hence to our daily lives. Then his interviews and conferences keep the Catholic tradition alive, too.

Did you watch his 9 hour Bristol conference from June 2012? It's very helpful and he covers a very large range of important topics. His clear words combined with his very humorously way to put it (including some hilarious plays) really do keep Catholic tradition alive in a way which no other person currently could. He's a man of God and without doubt the true follower of Archbishop Lefebvre.

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If His Excellency Bishop Williamson does not soon withdraw himself I may start having doubts in all 4 bishops!!

I know what you mean with "caged". But no need to worry, because Bishop Williamson will always fight for the Faith and help in keeping the Catholic tradition alive. He will do so inside or outside the SSPX. Let's wait and see what happens. The good Lord will lead his bishop.

It's well possible we now entered a period of "time where the soldier has to fight without banner" (*). Yes, it indeed looks like we just (re-) entered the time of the catacombs.

(*) That's a quotation from the famous German writer and world wars (plural) veteran Ernst Jünger. Later he converted to the Catholic Church (from protestantism) when he was about 100 years old, in the year 2000 or so. His original words were roughly: „Es kommt die Zeit, wo der Soldat ohne Fahne kämpfen muß“. I'd apply this to us Christian soldiers today.

And another quote of a great man who gave his life for his Catholic heritage.... "Long live Holy Germany"
Col. Claus Count von Stauffenberg

Belloc · « **Reply #13 on:** August 08, 2012, 01:16:34 PM »

True, in a time of evil in Germany, a great German (an :wink: white guy) stood up for justice and morality......a Catholic to boot!

At end of movie, was so proud of Germanic heritage and high time the USA audience knew of this event and people....

I miss, for his faults, the Kaiser......

Belloc · « **Reply #14 on:** August 08, 2012, 01:19:04 PM »

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True, in a time of evil in Germany, a great German (an :wink: white guy) stood up for justice and morality......a Catholic to boot!

At end of movie, was so proud of Germanic heritage and high time the USA audience knew of this event and people....

I miss, for his faults, the Kaiser......

You did not bear the shame.

You resisted.

You bestowed an eternally vigilant symbol of change

by sacrificing your impassioned lives for freedom, justice and honor.