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Line Between True and False Resistance? Video Raises Serious Points.
« on: March 25, 2025, 02:17:58 PM »
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    • https://youtu.be/Gnmu8Olmx7o?si=cz3P59n2gqOaTdm4

    This video is from the same YouTube channel that posted the Bishop Ballini sermon recently. It presents some strong claims and docuмentation about the current state of the Resistance. If the facts are true, can anyone dispute them? Curious what others think.

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    Re: Line Between True and False Resistance? Video Raises Serious Points.
    « Reply #1 on: March 25, 2025, 06:38:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: TheNewVendee on March 25, 2025, 02:17:58 PM
    https://youtu.be/Gnmu8Olmx7o?si=cz3P59n2gqOaTdm4

    This video is from the same YouTube channel that posted the Bishop Ballini sermon recently. It presents some strong claims and docuмentation about the current state of the Resistance. If the facts are true, can anyone dispute them? Curious what others think.
    All it presents is Fr Hewko and his followers still trying to justify their ruining of the Resistance in the USA and leading faithful down a dead end. It is despicable that they should produce a video about one of the bishops consecrated by Bishop Williamson to boost their following and then use it to attack him after his death and attempt to draw still more faithful over to their crooked cause.
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    Re: Line Between True and False Resistance? Video Raises Serious Points.
    « Reply #2 on: March 25, 2025, 07:57:01 PM »
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    • Fr. H keeps mentioning that there are still many good and zealous priests in the neoSsp...Evidently there are good clergy combating the errors of VII, like independent ones. To claim that ONLY 2 priests have the spirit of + Marcel Lefebvre (R.I.P
    +), on the anniversary of his death is ...I can't think of a word to name...squabbling is close.
    Also, +Williamson was never the leader of the "Resistance". c.2012 -13 in Ontario he said something like: If you think I will become the leader of the Resistants, come down from yoir fairyland, paraphrased. He had no authority, and that explains his actions about that priest Fr. S.to resume his priestly activities. Find out which day he admitted he was the leader! In fact, he didn't even recognize the movement, why he called us by the expression ' the Resistants.'
    A Fr. G in Canada says that the Resistance is the laughing stock of the SSPX. No leader  = no unity. Plus there are not many who could honestly say they agreed with everything + W promoted. So the devil's tail is showing, division and strife. And Jesus is expecting our love, at every moment. At least we agree that Vatican II was / is a disaster for the Church. What else do we agree with?
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    Re: Line Between True and False Resistance? Video Raises Serious Points.
    « Reply #3 on: March 25, 2025, 08:57:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Twice dyed on March 25, 2025, 07:57:01 PM
    What else do we agree with?
    Hopefully, we agree on everything that Catholics are obliged to agree on, and do not use those things that we disagree on as a pretext for condemning others and creating division... and dragging the faithful through such scandalous affairs as the Ambrose Moran affair and ultimately leading them up a dead end.
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    Re: Line Between True and False Resistance? Video Raises Serious Points.
    « Reply #4 on: March 26, 2025, 12:16:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Twice dyed on March 25, 2025, 07:57:01 PM
    Fr. H keeps mentioning that there are still many good and zealous priests in the neoSsp...Evidently there are good clergy combating the errors of VII, like independent ones. To claim that ONLY 2 priests have the spirit of + Marcel Lefebvre (R.I.P
    +), on the anniversary of his death is ...I can't think of a word to name...squabbling is close.
    Also, +Williamson was never the leader of the "Resistance". c.2012 -13 in Ontario he said something like: If you think I will become the leader of the Resistants, come down from yoir fairyland, paraphrased. He had no authority, and that explains his actions about that priest Fr. S.to resume his priestly activities. Find out which day he admitted he was the leader! In fact, he didn't even recognize the movement, why he called us by the expression ' the Resistants.'
    A Fr. G in Canada says that the Resistance is the laughing stock of the SSPX. No leader  = no unity. Plus there are not many who could honestly say they agreed with everything + W promoted. So the devil's tail is showing, division and strife. And Jesus is expecting our love, at every moment. At least we agree that Vatican II was / is a disaster for the Church. What else do we agree with?

    Consider the SSPX Resistance has also been described as, “The controlled opposition of the controlled opposition”.

    His Excellency certainly was the symbolic leader of the movement, with his weekly EC’s unifying his loyalists.

    There was a lot of hopes and prayers behind him.  Many seeing Bp. Fellay’s repeated duplicity as an opportunity to win more hearts & minds for the true “Resistance” and fight for the Faith.

    And as the SSPX falters in it’s Apostolic mission, the opportunities still abound for a Catholic Bishop(s) to lead an effective, organized fight.

    That’s why the current SSPX Resistance leadership’s silence to rally us is in the wake of Bishop Williamson’s death… is deafening.
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    Re: Line Between True and False Resistance? Video Raises Serious Points.
    « Reply #5 on: March 26, 2025, 07:28:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: TheNewVendee on March 25, 2025, 02:17:58 PM
    https://youtu.be/Gnmu8Olmx7o?si=cz3P59n2gqOaTdm4

    This video is from the same YouTube channel that posted the Bishop Ballini sermon recently. It presents some strong claims and docuмentation about the current state of the Resistance. If the facts are true, can anyone dispute them? Curious what others think.
    Check out the comments on the video to which the OP gave a reply. 
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    Re: Line Between True and False Resistance? Video Raises Serious Points.
    « Reply #6 on: March 26, 2025, 09:45:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on March 26, 2025, 07:28:05 PM
    Check out the comments on the video to which the OP gave a reply.
    Good pick up, Seraphina. Just as I suspected...
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    Re: Line Between True and False Resistance? Video Raises Serious Points.
    « Reply #7 on: March 27, 2025, 07:37:28 AM »
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    • There are very serious allegations that are directed at the Resistance at 4 minutes into the video along with a link to an article that is almost 10 years old. How was this adressed at the time? 
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    Re: Line Between True and False Resistance? Video Raises Serious Points.
    « Reply #8 on: March 29, 2025, 12:28:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Twice dyed on March 25, 2025, 07:57:01 PM
    Fr. H keeps mentioning that there are still many good and zealous priests in the neoSsp...Evidently there are good clergy combating the errors of VII, like independent ones. To claim that ONLY 2 priests have the spirit of + Marcel Lefebvre (R.I.P
    +), on the anniversary of his death is ...I can't think of a word to name...squabbling is close.
    Also, +Williamson was never the leader of the "Resistance". c.2012 -13 in Ontario he said something like: If you think I will become the leader of the Resistants, come down from yoir fairyland, paraphrased. He had no authority, and that explains his actions about that priest Fr. S.to resume his priestly activities. Find out which day he admitted he was the leader! In fact, he didn't even recognize the movement, why he called us by the expression ' the Resistants.'
    A Fr. G in Canada says that the Resistance is the laughing stock of the SSPX. No leader  = no unity. Plus there are not many who could honestly say they agreed with everything + W promoted. So the devil's tail is showing, division and strife. And Jesus is expecting our love, at every moment. At least we agree that Vatican II was / is a disaster for the Church. What else do we agree with?
    Sorry I'm finding it hard to keep up with all of this. So Bishop Williamson left the SSPX because of the compromises they made with Rome and the corrupt leadership, but what did he join then? And if he denounced the "Resistance" then why are the priests which he consecrated bishops, taking part in the resistance?
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    Re: Line Between True and False Resistance? Video Raises Serious Points.
    « Reply #9 on: March 29, 2025, 01:17:21 PM »
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    • It seems that with each passing week those who oppose the conciliar church become more divided and confused by a host of personalities that speak in behalf one group or another.
    What they all have in common is that they discourage anyone who has found their way to traditional Catholicism to attend the services or receive sacraments from a rival group.
    As few and as far between SSPX or FSSP or indult mass are we can't go there, they bellow, because you are in danger of losing your faith over time. 
    As someone who has attended all of the above and met with many of the parishioners I just don't see that happening.
    We're not just going to wake up one morning and start thinking Bergoglio is legit and VII is wonderful.
    These are people who need and will not be denied the sacraments.
    Because of my admiration for many of the priests and bishops who oppose VII I felt I had to pay heed to whatever they said...until covid, when more than a few said taking the jab was just fine.
    That's when I knew that if they could be mistaken on something so obvious, even to non believers, their opinions on 
    where I can go to mass could also be dead wrong.
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    Re: Line Between True and False Resistance? Video Raises Serious Points.
    « Reply #10 on: March 29, 2025, 02:33:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: Aleksandar on March 29, 2025, 12:28:51 PM
    Sorry I'm finding it hard to keep up with all of this. So Bishop Williamson left the SSPX because of the compromises they made with Rome and the corrupt leadership, but what did he join then? And if he denounced the "Resistance" then why are the priests which he consecrated bishops, taking part in the resistance?
    It is widespread knowledge that H.E. Williamson didn't want an organized "resistance". Fr. Hewko reminds his listeners of that every month.
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    "...Good souls regularly wish me to “step up to the plate” and assume a position of authority at the head of today’s “Resistance” movement. Let me propose, without imposing, the reasons for my serious reluctance to attempt any such thing.

    Authority in the Church is “shot,” from the top downwards. ..."
    "...The SSPX under Bishop Fellay has more and more wanted to be normal and has pretended it is normal, but actually it is a weak structure insofar as it has never had any jurisdiction more than supplied (this is one reason why Bishop Fellay so wants to be re-integrated into the mainstream Church).

    Now that was the Archbishop! And I am no Archbishop Lefebvre. Therefore a certain number of good souls can turn to me for guidance, as they do, but it is not in me to claim even a supplied jurisdiction, because of the enormous confusion reigning in the Church. At present I am more and more disinclined to impose even a true viewpoint on anybody, because souls are now so con fused that the least imposition is liable to increase rather than decrease that confusion. “I WILL STRIKE THE SHEPHERD AND THE SHEEP WILL BE SCATTERED” (Zachary XIII, 7), quoted by Our Lord in the Garden of Gethsemane (Mt. XXVI, 31), and that is how it is going to be in the Church, more and more, until God in his mercy restores the Shepherd, which he will do only when mankind will appreciate a true Shepherd of God. Until then God’s gift of such a Shepherd would risk doing more harm than good. So in the meantime we must all take our just punishment: the universal confusion..."



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    Re: Line Between True and False Resistance? Video Raises Serious Points.
    « Reply #11 on: March 29, 2025, 09:28:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Twice dyed on March 25, 2025, 07:57:01 PM
    Fr. H keeps mentioning that there are still many good and zealous priests in the neoSsp...Evidently there are good clergy combating the errors of VII, like independent ones. To claim that ONLY 2 priests have the spirit of + Marcel Lefebvre (R.I.P
    +), on the anniversary of his death is ...I can't think of a word to name...squabbling is close.
    Also, +Williamson was never the leader of the "Resistance". c.2012 -13 in Ontario he said something like: If you think I will become the leader of the Resistants, come down from yoir fairyland, paraphrased. He had no authority, and that explains his actions about that priest Fr. S.to resume his priestly activities. Find out which day he admitted he was the leader! In fact, he didn't even recognize the movement, why he called us by the expression ' the Resistants.'


    Fr. H mentions a lot of things now, many of which are best IGNORED. Does he have the Faith? I hope so. But when a priest has a certain threshold of baggage, error, etc. it's best to avoid them for your own souls' sake. If you end up in some kind of weird cult with Catholic trappings -- is that where you want to end up when this Crisis is over? The whole name of the game right now is PRESERVING YOUR CATHOLIC FAITH ENTIRE AND INTACT during this epic CRISIS IN THE CHURCH.

    So any group or position which tends to risk that Faith is NOT a good place to go. Use your prudence. Read hundreds of Lives of the Saints, learn your Catholic doctrine forwards and backwards (basically, form and maintain a healthy Catholic Sense) and then visit each chapel/priest with an open mind. Give them a fair hearing. But when you see/hear things which don't add up, you have to realize that priests are human and can err as well.

    As we have discussed in other threads, validity is NOT the only issue. Otherwise Catholics could have gone with ANY priest in 1970, after Vatican II. There weren't any invalid ones yet! But plenty of VALID ones pushed the new religion.

    A priest that causes needless division, or who excommunicates (virtually or literally) every priest not "on good terms with himself" -- is a HUGE red flag. And it's a "fault" that must not be ignored.

    As for Bp Williamson, he indeed used quotes, but he used "Resistance" most of the time, for the same reason any of us do. We all know it's an imperfect name, but we really don't have much better. No one's been able to come up with anything better, so it persists.
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