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Re: +Vigano on New Mass and Francis
« Reply #80 on: April 09, 2021, 08:17:05 AM »
Archbishop Vigano may also be a Bishop even consecrated in the new rite, if the Bishop that consecrated him was valid by being consecrated in the old rite himself. That would make Archbishop Vigano a valid Bishop in his person , although he would not have the ability to consecrate or ordain anyone himself as the new rite (Bishops) cannot transmit that authority. A new-rite Bishop  that was  consecrated by a new- rite Bishop is not a valid Bishop

( I'm thinking this is correct...)

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: +Vigano on New Mass and Francis
« Reply #81 on: April 09, 2021, 08:17:18 AM »
Ladislaus, here are the Saints, Popes, Fathers and Theologians.

These quotes do absolutely nothing to prove your non-Catholic position.  Between your promotion of Valtorta, Garbandal, and varying degrees of religious indifferentism, undermining EENS dogma, you have shown yourself to be rather consistently now a pernicious enemy of the Traditional Catholic faith.

You need to just go away and get off this forum, and stop promoting your brand of Modernism.  I'm frankly getting sick and tired of your anti-Catholic posts and your constant effeminate emoting in support of one fake private revelation after another.  If didn't have any other information to the contrary, I would assume from your posts that you are in fact actually a woman.


Offline Cryptinox

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Re: +Vigano on New Mass and Francis
« Reply #82 on: April 09, 2021, 11:48:24 AM »
Archbishop Vigano may also be a Bishop even consecrated in the new rite, if the Bishop that consecrated him was valid by being consecrated in the old rite himself. That would make Archbishop Vigano a valid Bishop in his person , although he would not have the ability to consecrate or ordain anyone himself as the new rite (Bishops) cannot transmit that authority. A new-rite Bishop  that was  consecrated by a new- rite Bishop is not a valid Bishop

( I'm thinking this is correct...)
You don't need to be a bishop to have jurisdiction. Abbots can have it and even laymen can.

Offline DecemRationis

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Re: +Vigano on New Mass and Francis
« Reply #83 on: April 10, 2021, 03:58:31 PM »

 - refuse to vote for and support President Tɾυmρ, which could have played a role in his losing. 

What "played a role" in Pres. Trump's loss was theft, not pure and not so simple.