Here is the complete transcript. FYI it would seem that the devil has been
hard at work trying to prevent this from being posted.
There have been several attempts over the past 10 days to get this
onto the inthissignyoushallconquer.com site, but one thing after another
has stopped it from happening. So enough is enough. The Fathers really
want this to be widely disseminated on several websites and that is why
it is free, in the public domain.. But being on the Internet is insufficient,
IMHO -- we ought to PRINT IT OUT.
Seraphim has a sticky thread with docuмents of the Resistance, which
we should all print out. These things may become very good items to
have on hand come serious trouble in technology, which may be one
of the devil's tricks yet to come. DO NOT RELY ON ELECTRONIC MEDIA,
is one of the "fortify your homes" doctrines. We still have the Douay-
Rheims and the old Latin Vulgate, only because they are in printed
form. The devil cannot touch the page of a printed copy. He can try to
make you have typos or glosses or inaccuracies, but once the ink is
on the paper, he is powerless to change it. So print it out and have
it for the future!
If you prefer a Word file that you can print with all the italics, bold, and
underline emphases, and even with my bizarre footnotes, I have
attached a copy to this post for your convenience.
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Saturday 15 December 2012
Octave Day of the Immaculate Conception
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…Say a prayer for the inspiration of the Holy Ghost:
In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, amen:
[From the Votive Mass of the Holy Ghost, Graduale Alleluia: “All kneel here”:]
Veni Sancte Spiritus: reple tuorum corde fidelium et tui amoris in eis ignem accende.[Tract: Ps. ciii. 30, from the same Mass:]
Emitte Spiritum tuum et creabuntur: et renovabis faciem terrae. Oremus: [inaudible]
…per Christum Dominum nostrum. Amen.Hail Mary full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the Fruit of thy womb, Jesus. [All respond:] Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now, and at the hour of our death. Amen.
Seat of Wisdom, (pray for us).
St. Thomas Aquinas, (pray for us).
St. Ignatius of Loyola, (pray for us).
St. Pius X, (pray for us).
In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
Be seated. [...and hold on to your seats -- this is gonna be 'one helluva ride'...]You’ve been promised a conference. I forgot to ask for a blackboard or a whiteboard. It would be useful, but you’re going to have to use your imagination!
If we are here tonight, it’s because a number of us: you: sense trouble within the Society of Saint Pius the Tenth. The trouble that we’re sensing is horribly abnormal; I was saying “abnormal” a few moments ago, that priests FORMED to resist the modern world should then begin to fall afoul of the same temptations of the modern world. On the other hand, it’s completely normal that the same temptations that caught almost the whole Church 40 or 50 years ago, it’s almost normal that they’d catch a few more souls 50 years down the line. The same temptations that made the Universal Church, or the Churchmen of the Universal Church, fall for the Council 50 years ago, exactly the same temptation is making the priests of the Society – is tempting the priests of the Society, and is making the LEADERS of the Society, fall today. The leaders in charge of the Society of St. Pius X are falling or have fallen. And the many serious people observing the Society of St. Pius X think, that unless the management is changed, unless the team in Menzingen is changed, there is no hope for the Society. And I’m afraid that that’s a good argument. I’m afraid: there’s much to be said for it!
Will God in His mercy give us a way of changing the team in Menzingen? Menzingen, of course, is the little Swiss village where the headquarters of the Society of St. Pius X is to be found. Will God, in His mercy, give the Society of St. Pius X a change in its leadership? That’s.. switch to the following question: Is the Society of St. Pius X at present, DESERVING that kind of help from Almighty God?? Are the laity of the Society of St. Pius X, being, corresponding to the graces that God has been giving us in order to follow Him and NOT the modern world? Or, are too many of the laity following the modern world even though they attend Mass with the Society of St. Pius X on Sunday morning? Questions for all of you for.. all of you to ask yourselves! (cough) A question for all of us to ask our very selves: Am I living up to what God had a right to expect of me when He gave me the special graces to follow the Society of St. Pius X towards heaven, and NOT follow the NewChurch towards hell? Immediately open a pair of brackets: Obviously, [whispers:] (I wish you wouldn’t let the children run around.) Obviously, there are some good people in the Novus Ordo. Obviously, there are some scoundrels in Catholic Tradition. It’s NOT AS THOUGH everyone in Tradition is a saint and everybody in the Novus Ordo is a villain. That’s just not the way it works. Obviously not.
But ask ourselves: Are we behaving ourselves as though God is important and that the modern world is bad, or are we behaving ourselves as though God is NOT important and as though the modern world is really not all that bad? If the second, then we DON’T DESERVE God to straighten out the SSPX, and it’s going to continue to fall, and it will crash. The higher they are, the harder they fall. But, we must pray, and behave ourselves so as to deserve that God may intervene to, as I would see it, change the complete team in the headquarters of the Society, otherwise, I do not see the Society pulling out of it. Because, as Archbishop Lefebvre says, the superiors form the people underneath them. And it’s not the people underneath who form the superiors. That’s what superiors are for. Superiors are there in order to lead, and to lift, and to guide. And they aren’t there to be led and lifted and guided. They’re meant to be, if they’re superior, they’re meant to do the lifting. They’re not meant to do the degenerating. The Church is not democratic. Our Lord was the greatest friend ever that the people ever had, but He didn’t – the people didn’t tell Him what to do. Not even His Apostles told Him what to do. Not even Peter told Him what to do. Peter said, “Lord, you can’t go and do that! You can’t go and get crucified in Jerusalem!” Behind Me, satan. “Get thee behind Me, satan!” Our Lord was not told what to do by St. Peter – even by St. Peter – He was God! How could He possibly be told what to do??
His Church is divine. Anyway, the superiors don’t follow the subjects, the subjects follow the superiors, as the Archbishop pointed out. And that of course, it’s a crucial argument for the Society not to go in with Rome! Because if the Society goes in with Rome, Romans – some of the modern Conciliar, TREACHEROUS Romans – are going to be superiors of the Society, and they will mold the Society towards treachery, and NOT the sweetie-pie SSPX-ers re-mold the Romans back to the Catholic Faith: that’s not how it works, because the Society would be UNDERNEATH the Roman superiors. The Society would be underneath, and therefore the Romans would mold the Society and NOT the Society mold the Romans. That was the Archbishop’s argument, back in 88, 89, 90, 1991, the last years of his life: when he saw clearly that Rome was NOT GOING to defend the Faith!
People argue from what the Archbishop said before 1998, when he did his best to stay with the official Church. People argue from the.. Since he did everything he COULD, to stay with the Roman Church, they say, “Look: he wanted to be in with Rome and therefore we should NOW want to be in with Rome.” But what happened was, in May of 1988, the Archbishop understood clearly from the way that Cardinal Ratzinger behaved, and the way Cardinal Ratzinger talked, the Archbishop understood CLEARLY that Rome was NOT GOING TO LOOK AFTER TRADITION! And if Rome wasn’t – he gave Rome 85, 86, 87, 88, he gave the Romans EVERY CHANCE, he hoped against hope the Romans would look after Tradition. He gave the Romans EVERY CHANCE to do the right thing. And Cardinal Ratzinger made it clear they’re NOT GOING to do the right thing. At THAT POINT, the Archbishop said, “Okay, that’s it! No more talking with these characters! They are finished! They are done! They’re no good! They’ve proved, finally, that they’re no good! I gave them every chance!” In fact, the Archbishop once said in 1989 or 90, he once said, “If anything, I went TOO FAR. I went the ‘full nine yards’” – as they say in America, though he didn’t use the American expression, obviously, “I went the full nine yards, and then I went the tenth yard as well! I went, if anything, TOO FAR!” He admitted that he went TOO FAR in the direction of trying to stay with the Romans and trying to stay with the authorities. And he signed, do you remember on May 5th he signed the Protocol, but then he went and had a sleepless night, and the Holy Ghost explained [to him, and he received understanding:] “Aha!” And made it clear what was really wanted, and the following day, he took back his signature. He had done everything he could to stay with the Romans.
And therefore, today, you get the Sound of Music chiefs, in Menzingen, saying, “Oh! The Archbishop said we should do everything to stay with the Romans – to say we should stay with the Romans!! EEHHehhe!” But it’s true the Archbishop did everything he could, to stay with the Romans, but he went, if anything, too far, but after a sleepless night he realized: These characters are NO GOOD! They’re not going to defend the Faith. The Faith is more important than Rome. Rome is only there for the sake of the Faith. The Faith is not for Rome, Rome is for the Faith. Therefore, if Rome is NOT for the Faith, then we forget about Rome – for the time being, until God brings Rome back! We remain Roman Catholics. But this [is] false Rome – we’re not false Roman Catholics! With the help of God, we’re not false Roman Catholics! We’re not NewRomanCatholics. We’re Roman Catholics. That’s a completely different thing.
So that argument, you know – the Archbishop said – what these sweetie-pie characters in Menzingen say, is that “Oh! We must follow the archbishop, because he said, ‘Stay with the authorities.’” NO! Because the Archbishop himself repudiated that policy! He saw it couldn’t be done. The Faith couldn’t be kept, if one stayed on that line. In order to keep the Faith, we had to, we have to, stay away from NewRome. NewRome is spelled in one word, like the NewChurch: spelled in one word. Like the NewPopes, spelt in one word. Because their idea with Vatican II was to “renew” the whole Church, and they’ve changed it without any recognition: it’s no longer the Catholic Church. Therefore, [as] we no longer want to go along without the Church, [so] we want to distinguish clearly between the Church and the NewChurch – but like you [would] distinguish between an apple and a rotten apple. There’s a big difference. An apple I can eat, a rotten apple I can’t eat. It’s a big difference. And yet, it’s an apple: there WAS an apple there, only that the apple’s gone rotten. So there’s a connection. It’s quite different, what’s there. So, so Rome is now quite different, and we can’t play games with it. But this is exactly what the leadership now in Menzingen wants to do. They’re NUTS! But they’ve fallen foul of the same temptation of Vatican II. So what the Society is now going through is Vatican II-B. It’s doing its own little Vatican II, which is absolutely ABNORMAL for Catholics, but it’s absolutely NORMAL for Catholics in the modern world. It’s normal for Catholics in the modern world to get caught by the modern world, the modern version of the modern devil. The modern world is very seductive. It’s very powerful and very seductive.
To get an idea why, you’ve got to imagine I’ve got a blackboard here. Okay? We’re going to do a diagram up the wall, so you’re going to have to imagine. Across the bottom, is the middle ages, and here’s the Catholic Church in the middle ages. And then we come to the Protestant “reformation.” And about 1/3 the way across, because Protestantism grabbed about 1/3 of Christendom – of all the Christian, Catholic nations, Protestantism grabbed one third. And so you imagine the Protestants swinging off to the left. And they leave two-thirds of the Catholic Church behind. The Catholic Church defends itself against the Protestant reformation, with the Counter-Reformation. And the Counter-Reformation is very Catholic – it gives us those glorious Baroque Churches, those Baroque vestments – it was a very great Catholic reaction. And [in] the Catholic Counter-Reformation, the Catholic Church expands again. The Protestants had carried off a great lot, but the Catholic Church expands again. For instance, Mexico, the whole of Central America, South America, the Jesuit missionaries, the Dominican missionaries, they found in throughout South America, a series of those cities, brand new cities, with a square – there’s always a central square – and then the Church of the Jesuits, the Church of the Dominicans: they’re Catholic nations! A Rosary of Catholic nations! At least 15 Catholic nations, quite different from one another, surprisingly different from one another. South America is not just one country. It’s a Rosary of different countries, but they WERE ALL CATHOLIC – until the Council – they were all Catholic. Now they’re falling for, for Protestantism itself, but that’s later.
The Counter-Reformation expands the Church again. Then the devil comes BACK. The devil never gives up! And you and I mustn’t give up. If you and I had half the perseverance of the devil we would all go to heaven. The devil never gives up. So.. the devil comes back, but this time it’s not Protestantism, but Liberalism.
And so, the French Revolution, in 1789, will grab hold of the politics in many of the Catholic nations. Italy, Spain, France, those nations which resisted the reformation, which resisted Protestantism, which stayed Catholic, they now fall into Liberalism. And Liberalism is connected with Protestantism. How is Liberalism connected with Protestantism? All of this is important, this elementary, historical overview, to grasp what is happening today.
Liberalism is connected to Protestantism in the following way: Catholicism says: 2 and 2 equals 4. Protestantism says: 2 and 2 equals 5. It’s definite, it’s clear, it’s wrong. But it’s definite and clear. Luther says, “Here I stand and I can’t do anything else. Herr shay icabizandos.”[sp?] He’s got his WRONG ideas, but they’re clear, they’re strong, and firm. Protestantism establishes itself in America and a good part of Europe in Catholicism, and then people, Europeans, are beginning to scratch their heads and say, “Who’s right? Here the Protestants say this and the Catholics say this? Hey! I’m not sure!” And so, since the Protestants managed to establish themselves, then, the Catholic Church is no longer in sole possession. The Catholic Church no longer has, so to speak, apparently, no longer has the monopoly of truth. Previously, there was, for a thousand years, the Catholic Church had no serious rival in Europe. From 500 to 1500 there were no really major heresies. There was Mohammedanism in the Middle East, but there were no major heresies inside Europe. Catholicism was triangled. And then arrived the tremendous heresy of Protestantism: because the middle ages began declining. They began declining before Protestantism, and Protestantism was simply the flowering of the decline. Just as Vatican II was the flowering of the decline of the modern Church. In the 1950’s the Catholic Church looked good but it wasn’t really as good as it looked. Under – you scratch the surface and underneath, the termites had eaten away, and so, and one push of the Liberals of Vatican II and whole thing sort of fell down, into Conciliarism.
So you’ve got the Protestants and the Catholics, and then come the Liberals! And the Liberal say, “Look, here are you Catholics and you think one thing, and here are you Protestants and you think another thing. Look: You’re never going to agree! Let’s agree to differ! Let’s have peace! Let’s all [be] quieting down, let’s stop fighting one another, let’s recognize that nobody has the complete truth! So, 2 and 2 are 4. 2 and 2 are 5. No problem! We’ll leave behind 2 and 2 are 4, 2 and 2 are 5: We’re not going to worry about 2 and 2! We’re just going to live in peace, and we’ll leave behind the question of truth and doctrine. And so from liberalism, the difference between liberalism and Protestantism is, 2 and 2 are 5 [very talented dog barks on cue!] – Protestantism.. Liberalism: 2 and 2 are 4 – well, maybe they’re also 5 – no problem!
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2 and 2 are 4 ~ 2 and 2 are 5 ~ hey! Take it easy, man! Hang loose! Don’t get so up-tight about truth or doctrine, all that sort of thing. You know. Let’s just live in peace, and have unity, and let’s love one another. That’s Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ. And that’s ecuмenism. Exactly: That idea, that modern idea the NewChurch (spelled as one word) is riddled with two and two are four or five: no problem! It’s Benedict XVI, up hill and down dale! You know, let’s leave to one side these questions of doctrine and let’s all be quiet – let’s all – we don’t want 2 and 2 are 4 [exclusively] inside our Church! There’s room inside our church, our big tent – there’s room for 2 and 2 are 4 inside our big tent. And there’s a lot of [room as well, for] 2 and 2 are 5, and 6, and 7, and 8 and 9: no problem! We all just get together, we live in peace: That is Ecuмenism.
You see: ecuмenism completely brackets out the question of truth.
Can you imagine anyone trying to design an airplane, or bridge, on the basis of 2 and 2 are 4, or 5, or 6? It’s ridiculous. You wouldn’t be able to do it. In order to build a bridge that’s going to be able to stand, you’ve got to build it according to good mathematics. 2 and 2 are 4 and only 4. If you want to build an airplane that’s going to fly, you’ve got to be very exact, in 2 and 2 are 4, or 2 and 2 are 5, you’ve got to be very exact, in the way you obey the laws of aerodynamics, otherwise the plane’s going to crash.
So, Liberalism begins the mushing of minds. If I say, “2 and 2 are 4, or 2 and 2 are 5, it doesn’t matter,” then you know: my mind is beginning to turn to mush. Luther is WRONG, but he’s not MUSH. But when his WRONGNESS is established right alongside the rightness of the Catholic faith, the Catholic religion, then minds begin to turn to MUSH, because they don’t know which, and instead of saying, “I’m going to study this until I’m going to arrive at the truth,” and of course, if you study arithmetic you’re going to arrive at the truth, that 2 and 2 are 4, you’re going to see, that they’re 4, they CAN’T be 5! But then the moment you say, 2 and 2 are 4 and they can’t be anything else, you can’t get on with other people who say that they’re 5. Catholics are not going to get on easily with neighbors who are heretics. And if they do get on too easily, or if they get on easily in the WRONG WAY, with neighbors who are heretics, they’re going to become heretics themselves! And that’s what you see in many cases today: I’m not going to go around, because I have the Catholic Faith – I’m not going to go around hitting my neighbors in the face because they aren’t Catholics. It’s stupid.
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But I’m NOT going to say: “He’s a good guy, I’m a good guy, we’re really all good guys, and so he’s a Protestant, I’m a Catholic, we’re both good guys, we play golf at the local club, and he mows his lawn very well, he keeps his house very tidy; actually, he mows his lawn better than I do, he picks up his garbage better than I do. So really, I’m a Catholic, but he’s a Protestant: That’s Okay That He’s a Protestant…” A Catholic shouldn’t think like that. Because, if he’s not a Catholic, he’s not on the way to heaven.
Because, he’s not believing what God wants him to believe.
So, after Protestantism established itself, Counter-Reformation expands, and Liberalism cuts in, and the French Revolution swings the same way that Protestantism – as it swings to the left, it’s a great swing to the left and it takes a lot of souls with it, and the Church is again cut back, the Church is from now on, more or less, cut out of politics. That’s where you get this terrible idea, this terrible MODERN idea, that the Church has got nothing to do with politics. And politics has got nothing to do with the Church. That’s very, very WRONG. Very wrong. The Catholic idea, is the union of Church and state! Every state on the face of the earth, including Saudi Arabia, including Israel, ought to be Catholic. Because the state consists only of human beings created by God, redeemed by Our Lord Jesus Christ, and who SHOULD enter the Catholic Church, because they SHOULD go to heaven. That’s every state under the face of the sun.
There is not a single state, a political state, that has the RIGHT NOT TO BE CATHOLIC. Every state has, AS SUCH, the DUTY to be CATHOLIC. That’s how a Catholic should think. Why? Because Our Lord Jesus Christ died for ALL MEN. He didn’t die only for Europeans, or only for the white race or only for the French. That’s nonsense. He dies for all men, including all Blacks, including all Jєωs, including all Communists, including all Chinese, every single race. He died for them all. If a Catholic admits the right of any nation or race NOT to be CATHOLIC, that Catholic is diminishing Our Lord Jesus Christ. And he’s not understanding Our Lord Jesus Christ, he’s not believing in the true Our Lord Jesus Christ.
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Now, the idea that the Church should stay out of politics, well, the priests should stay out of politics, yes, because they’ve got more serious things to do than fool around with all that nonsense the politicians get up to. Priests have got the business of saving souls, which is much more important. Now, [regarding] if the priest should stay out of politics, yes. [But should] the Church stay out of politics? NO! Because every politician, even as a politician, has the duty to observe the 10 Commandments. Every politician has the duty to BLOCK laws in favor of abortion. Every politician has the DUTY to BLOCK this NONSENSE about ‘gαy marriage.’ And therefore, the politicians MUST obey the 10 Commandments, and the priests must TELL the politicians, what ARE the 10 Commandments. In the old days – which is what all politicians SHOULD be, what all MEN should be – Catholic politicians used to come to the priests, or come to the bishops, and say, look, this legislation is coming up in Parliament, I’m not sure what I should do about it. And the priest had the DUTY, to go to his study, and crack the manuals, and tell the politician what the law of God says, how the law of God applies to this political problem, and then the priest should go back to the politician and say: “Okay, you asked to the law of God, I’M NOT GIVING YOU MY PERSONAL OPINION. I’m going to tell you what the CHURCH teaches. And this is what the Church teaches. Now, it’s up to you, as a politician to DO what the Church teaches, to OBEY the doctrine of the Church.” [This is the meaning of the Teaching Office of the Church, the Magisterium.] Catholic politicians used to do that. And a good Catholic politician will usually need a good priest in order to be a good Catholic politician. They need the priest. We ALL need the priest, in order to save our souls.
Padre Pio went to Confession every morning before he could say Mass. He couldn’t say Mass, I’d say it was true, he couldn’t say Mass UNLESS he went to Confession. Even Padre Pio needed priests! A fellow priest – he couldn’t hear his OWN Confession, so he needed another priest. So all of us need priests. That’s the way Our Lord fixed it. The priest is the stand-in for Our Lord Jesus Christ, and ALL of us need Our Lord Jesus Christ in order to save our souls.
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So, okay. Liberalism is going to make another great swing to the left, parallel with Protestantism. It’s not exactly the same, but it’s an onward development from Protestantism. So, as the Church enters the nineteenth century (the 1800’s, the eighteen hundreds to the nineteen hundreds, the Church enters the 19th century) again shrunk by the Revolution, [it’s] cut down to size, cut down, cut out of all politics by the French Revolution. And the Freemasons will say, “Politics belongs to us, and you can look after the religion, but religion is only for the sacristy, so religion doesn’t belong in the streets, it’s only in Church.” And that’s an idea that too many Catholics [now] have, the idea that religion belongs only in the Church. It doesn’t: it belongs in the streets, as well as in the Church. It belongs very importantly in the Church of course, the Church is the main place, because that’s where Mass is said every day. That’s where Our Lord is honored.
And it also belongs in the streets. The STREETS have NO RIGHT to be independent of the Catholic Church. AAhh! See?! If I say something like that and it shocks you a little (it may shock you) it’s because you and I are [reading] too many newspapers, and we watch too much television, and we’ve absorbed this POISON of the modern world – that religion is a limited affair – [that] religion is something that doesn’t pull in the whole of life, it doesn’t – that [religion] should not concern the whole of life. The truth is: that religion SHOULD concern the whole of life.
Okay. The Church then expands again, with the missionary effort during the 19th century. There is a great missionary effort during the 19th century. There are priests from Quebec, the province of Quebec, who become missionaries all over the United States. Quebec used to be a very Catholic province, of Canada. And it used to be the MOST Catholic province of Canada. But, with the Council, it crashed to being the most anti-Catholic province of Canada, today. But it was once very, very Catholic, and there was large families, lots of children, many priests, and the priests were all over the United States: all over the Protestant, the Liberal United States, missioning in order to save souls. The priests went into Africa. Africa was missioned in the 19th century. And so on. But during the 19th century, while the Church is expanding, the Masons, Freemasons, Liberalism, is undermining the foundations, and through the 19th century, you’ve got a great war between Liberalism and Catholicism. The Catholic Church, trying to save souls, and the Freemasons, trying to – the people behind the French Revolution, the people behind, “2 and 2 are 4 or 5, no problem!” people behind the MUSHING OF MINDS, the ARCH MUSHERS OF MINDS, who are the Freemasons: “Doctrine Doesn’t Matter!” There’s only ONE doctrine that matters: The SUPERDOCTRINE is, that “All Other Doctrines Don’t Matter.”
Well, that’s contradictory, of course. But that’s the principle of the modern world. That,
“I don’t agree with you, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say what you’re saying.” (That’s that saying.) No! If you’re talking nonsense, you don’t have a right to say it. LEAST OF ALL, in public you have a right to talk nonsense. Nonsense is nonsense, sense is sense. There is a truth, and TRUTH MATTERS. That’s what people can’t get into their heads today, that there is an objective truth. That’s the heart of the matter: the absolute heart of the matter. Many people today, they just don’t believe in objective truth, or they [believe], if it exists, you can’t get at it, you can’t reach it: it’s inaccessible. And that’s also false.
God gave us minds, He is the way, the truth and the life; there IS a truth. And the truth can be found if you look for it. Knock and it will be opened unto you, seek and you will find, says Our Lord. And if somebody looks for the truth, he will find it. If he doesn’t look, he won’t find it, but if he does look, he will find it. [When all else fails, try using the index!] But Churchill once said, most people, I think it’s something like this, I don’t know if this is it, but it’s something like this: most people run into the truth at least once in their lives, most – uh, “All people run into the truth [at least] once in their lives – most people turn away.” Most people don’t pursue the truth. They don’t want the truth. They want their own –.. They don’t want God’s truth, they want their own – fantasy. And what you’ve got today, the modern world, you’ve got a fantasy of men turning away from God – which is why you’ve got ‘gαy marriage,’ abortion, and all of these horrors. This – the wretched schools, the disordered youth, the families being broken apart, the religion, God being completely neglected – all of these horrors FOLLOW FROM men saying, “God, I don’t want you, and I don’t want your truth. I want MY FANTASY! I want MY VERSION OF THE TRUTH!” It’s Liberalism: Liberating myself from the objective truth and putting ME, the subject, in place of the object. [Elsewhere H.E. calls it “subjectivism.”] Putting man in the place of God. Fantasy in the place of reality. The subject in place of the object. That’s our world. Created essentially by the Freemasons.
So, okay, we arrive at – nineteen hundred. And the Liberals are eating away all the time with this – they’re MUSHING MINDS. They’re trying to mush all minds, and they’re trying to mush Catholic minds, and they find a brilliant new way to do it, with the heresy called “Modernism.”
Modernism is something[!] – it arose around 1900. In 1907, the great Pope [St.] Pius X, SCORCHED it, smashed it, broke it, with Pascendi, the great encyclical in which he denounced exactly, this mushing of minds. He said that the mushing of minds mushes the Holy Trinity. It mushes the Incarnation. It mushes all the doctrines of the Church: Did Jesus Christ take [on] his human nature to become [man?] – Did God become man? Yes or No? [In answer to this essential question, the Modernist replies as follows:]
“Well, yes and no. For me: yes – for you: no. [But] that’s all right! I have my opinion, you have yours! EEhHhh… So, let’s live in peace and we’ll all be happy here.”
That’s the modern world. It’s not Catholic. The Catholic says – you [can well] go back to the martyrs again, [to] the first 300 years [of the Church]:
The Roman emperors said to these virgin martyrs: “Look, you’ve got your Christian God, I’ve got my gods! You can’t say my gods are devils! I’m not going to say that your God is a devil! You’ve got your God, he’s good for you! But I’m the emperor, and I say my gods are not devils, and you, little girl, are trying to tell me, the emperor, that my gods are devils!?” (answer) “Yes, your majesty.” (rejoinder) “I will TORTURE YOU if you go on saying that!” (answer) “Your majesty: I’ve got to get to heaven. I love Jesus Christ. I can’t say [otherwise, because] all your gods are false gods. There’s only one God, the one, true God, and He’s Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the Second Person of the [Holy Trinity]. There are three persons in the Holy Trinity. And if you want to torture me, you can torture me as much as you like, but God will help me!” (rejoinder) “ARRRGGHH! Torture her!” They sent these martyrs, these virgins – these YOUNG GIRLS went through HORRIBLE TORTURES, but because they told their emperors that the emperors’ gods were false gods! They did NOT say to the emperor: “Your majesty, you have your gods and just leave me with mine, please, oh!” “Of course, little girl, don’t worry! But, you say my gods are true, don’t you?” “Oh, yes, your majesty!”
APOSTATE! TRAITOR! Traitor to Our Lord!
But how many Catholics think like that today? Oh my neighbor, he has his false gods, I have the true God. Well, my true God doesn’t really mind false gods.
Do you even remember the first Commandment?
THOU SHALT WORSHIP THE LORD THY GOD: THOU SHALT HAVE ONLY ONE GOD: AND THOU SHALT NOT HAVE ANY OTHER GODS BEFORE ME: AND I AM A JEALOUS GOD. That’s the true God. He’s a jealous God. He’s not happy with lots of little false gods running around. Not happy at all. There’s only One God. And so..
Modernism is a retread of Protestant Liberalism. So Modernism – here we’ve got the 19th century, the Protestant church is expanding again. Modernism doesn’t take a big chunk of the Church, but it does take a little chunk of the Church. But since [St.] Pius X scorched it, fast, (then it didn’t) – but it was ready to infect the whole Church. So what did the Modernists do? The Modernists (by the end) – By 1900, Liberalism is infecting the whole world. We’ve got the media: we haven’t got television or radio yet, but we’ve got the newspapers. People are reading the newspapers. People are reading the propaganda of the left. People are infected with these republican and democratic ideas, which look good, but actually amount to the sovereignty of the people, [which] is: “We the People Are God! If WE make a law in favor of ABORTION, then abortion is OKAY!”
There is NOT a GOD above WE the PEOPLE!
(That’s) – These are the modern ideas behind the modern newspapers, the ideas of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ. So, these ideas are working through the world, and the Catholic priests and the Catholic laity and the Catholic bishops are all living in this modern world – re-made, fantasized by the Freemasons.
And so, the priests are beginning to get infected, and so Modernism is the idea that everything Catholic must be modernized: it’s all got to be updated: it’s all got to stop opposing the whole, lovely, modern world, which is normal, and natural, and very happy and sweet, and The Hills Are Alive With The Sound Of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ! And we’re all happy, and we all like it, and we all love it (that’s that the chur.. ) – it’s time that the Church adapted to that world and instead of constantly, constantly, constantly condemning it.
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So, It’s time the Church adapted: so we will adapt the Rosary, we will adapt the Our Father, we will adapt – sounds familiar?? Vatican II – exactly.
But – it isn’t a BIG heresy, but it is exactly in line, once again, with Liberalism, with Protestantism. One chunk – the devil pulling off one chunk after another towards the left. But, once again, thanks to Pius X, there’s another upswing, another uptick of the Church, the first years of the twentieth century, nineteen hundred to nineteen twenty, were good for the Catholic Church, they were a Catholic time. Uh, Chesterton, Belloc in English, Paghey,(?) Cleudoux(?) in French and so on and so on. But then the world comes back once more: the modern world is getting more powerful than ever, it’s getting more glamorous. It’s getting more seductive. Its science is advancing. Technology is advancing. The science looks good. And the scientists tell us that we’re all descended from monkeys: We were all once “branch managers!” [HAHAHA] and therefore, it’s time that we, uh, it’s time that we recognize that the truth is science, and religion is just – it’s religion, which is fantasy. It’s the kind of religion which is “kidology” – as Americans would say, and – TRUTH IS WITH SCIENCE. Science becomes the new religion – it’s becoming the new religion. And the modern world is more and more powerful. (So there’s..) By the time we reach (1950) the1950’s, Modernism is staving off a bit, the Church looks very strong. It’s almost as if it’s as broad again as it was in the middle ages, but then [suddenly?] then we arrive at 1962, and what had Modernism done? Pope Pius X had stopped, blocked, scorched Modernism, but it simply went underground, because these Liberals are convinced of their Liberalism.
Every Liberal is a Crusader! If you may have noticed: “Don’t drink this can of beer because you might be pregnant! If you’re pregnant be careful of beer! Smoking kills!” There’s a crusade against beer, a crusade against smoking! A crusade in favor of abortion! A crusade in favor of gαy marriage! Every Liberal is a crusader!
So, Liberalism is on a crusade to get the Church! And so, the modern world is working at the Church and it’s seducing the Churchmen. And so, [it’s now] 1962 and the Churchmen are TIRED of resisting the modern world, of condemning the modern world – of thinking that the modern world is horrible and nasty. The Modern World Is Normal! It’s Natural! It’s Open! It’s Free! It’s – it’s more material prosperity than ever! It’s a wonderful place! We’ve gone through two world wars! (The world wars were pretty horrible, nasty things), but we’ve overcome all that (we’ve) – things are getting brighter and better all the time! That’s Vatican II.
And so, it’s in love with the modern world, and so, this time, the modern world is so powerful and so seductive, that there’s a great, HUGE swing of the Church – in parallel with Modernism, with Liberalism, and basically with Protestantism. But this time, it’s not just 1/3, or another 1/6, or a little sliver, this time it’s practically the whole of the Church. So seductive and powerful, and triumphant are the modern ideas, the freedom, equality – Liberty, Equality, Fraternity, the Masonic ideas are so powerful, the newspapers have still got into people’s minds. Television is coming in, in the 40’s, and 50’s, Rock ‘music’ in the 50’s, Elvis Presley, and so on and so on. And therefore, the bishops give up on the old religion, and the bishops hike up their skirts and they begin jiving in the Vatican – and: That’s Vatican II.
And this time, it’s a HUGE chunk of the Church, that swings over; and there’s only two little bishops that hang on: Archbishop Lefebvre and Bishop de Castro Mayer. But it’s a tiny, little operation.
Notice how, [during] the Counter-Reformation, it was the Council of Trent, the bishops of the whole Church, [who] blocked Protestantism. [But] Liberalism: it was the Popes that blocked it, no longer the whole Church. There wasn’t a council against the French Revolution. It was a series of good popes through the nineteenth century who held the line. So we’ve gone from a council, to popes. [Against] Modernism is just one pope, [St.] Pius X. This time, it’s just one Archbishop, against Vatican II: we’re reduced, just as the errors are expanding, the heroes that resist are contracting. Now, it’s only one Archbishop who’s holding the line, or one Archbishop with one bishop: two of them. And, the little SSPX, also once again, begins to expand: it’s exactly the same pattern. The SSPX begins to expand: it begins to send priests all over the world, the Archbishop himself travels all over the world, fighting the Liberal, Protestant, Modernist ideas which have triumphed over most of the Church, nearly all of the Church, after Vatican II. The Archbishop holds the line alone. The Society begins to expand again. What do you expect the devil to do? On this pattern, it’s obvious, he’s going to attack the Society!
And he’s going to attack the society in such a way, that a big chunk of the Society will be tempted to go in exactly the way of Vatican II, of Modernism, of Liberalism, and Protestantism. And so what we’re seeing today, is the beginning of the infiltration, the seduction, and the swing to the left, of the SSPX.
It’s the most – on this pattern – It’s the most normal thing in the world. What you’re liable to see this time, it will no longer be an Archbishop, I’m not at all sure there’s going to be some bishop that who you think you know, who you may think – it could be a priest who emerges, the leader of a movement, an organized movement to resist this swift swing of the final, this last little sliver, which has resisted the devil: naturally, the devil would come after it. The devil will come after that last little bit probably more than he would all of these, who are now in his pocket. Ever since Vatican II, there have been a lot of under-employed devils in the world!! We’ve got all the Churchmen, we’ve got all the bishops, hey, chief, what should we do now? Satan says: “Well, you’ve done a pretty good job, boys – But oh! What’s that? The SSPX? They’re resisting! That Archbishop’s resisting! He’s beginning to get seminarians and priests! – Hey, boys: Go after him!” So the devils are now all after the SSPX, and the SSPX is having a hard time, because: The devils are very persuasive! They’re very seductive!
It’s the most normal thing in the world, that, the SSPX, now you’re going to have – the SSPX expands – you’re going to have another chunk of the SSPX [liabilities (?)], not yet happened, but it is happening, it’s in process, it’s building, it’s going that way, because, that’s the way of the last 500 years. What we’re seeing now, in Germany the insatzeoin(?), the terminus, we’re seeing almost the end of the process, of the 500-year process. But logically, let’s assume that there is a priest who heads up a resistance movement that refuses to go with the swing, with the Menzingen swing of the Society, it resists, and then, it expands again – It’s building here right now. It’s re-building here right now. You are beginning to put together another Mass center, like in the 1970’s; soon you’ll be looking for priests, Mr. Carriage(?) is going to be looking for priests to make sure they’re going to come here and provide a Mass each Sunday if he can find one, and then you’re going to buy a little church. Oh, you’ve got to buy a church hall somewhere, and then you’re going to find the vestments, you’re going to find the vessels, it’s all just like the 1970’s. It’s going to be a re-run of the1970’s. We’re following exactly the pattern of Vatican II and the resistance to Vatican II.
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So, um, the priest organizes the resistance, and the resistance begins to expand, given another 20 years, and then there’ll be ANOTHER effort. There’ll be another triumph of the devil over a chunk. That’s how it goes on. Although, all the time he’s getting smaller, he can’t go on forever, and (excuse me) the situation today, in world and Church, is so grave, that one wonders, if it can go on much longer at all. Many people who’ve got eyes in their heads have expected the Lord God to intervene any time for the last 50 years. You may know, if you don’t know, look it up on the Internet: Our Lady of Akita. In 1973 Our Lady spoke to a deaf, absolutely deaf Japanese sister. Sister Saságawa, [Sr.] Agnes Saságawa. In the non-industrial, northwest coast of Japan, away from the big cities (it’s) – Akita’s a small city. – Away from the industrial south [of Japan].
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It’s a little city, towards the north. And she spoke to this completely deaf sister, and there were three messages, and the third message is immensely serious. It’s not long – it’s immensely serious. If men don’t mend their ways, then there’s going to be a greater chastisement than the world has – than humanity – has EVER seen. (The rain will – uh) Fire will fall from heaven, and the good will perish like the bad, the priests will die like the laity, and the survivors will be, will be so suffering that they will envy the dead. Look it up: A-K-I-T-A. If you don’t know the third mystery at Akita, look it up, because that’s 1973, and Our Lady is warning, very serious. She says Confession – if, uh, sins go on, Confession, there will be – there will be no more confession of sin, or something like that, she says: Confession – that Confession will no longer be available: Isn’t that the case already in the big cities? Is it not in today’s big cities, more and more difficult to find confessor who will – a priest who will hear confessions? Confession will almost disappear, she says; something like that, she says. I wish I had the message with me: I forgot to bring it. It’s very serious. We’re coming to the end. I don’t know when the fire is going to fall from heaven. But I have to say to you, I absolutely believe it is going to do so.
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It’s happened once more, it’s happened once before in the history of the human race, uh, the Flood, the time of Noah. The Scripture says, this is – we’re about a thousand years on from Adam. Adam was created, with a very perfect, a very perfect and a very noble human nature, with tremendous gifts. But, with sin, humanity has degenerated, and humanity always degenerates: because of original sin. Because Adam and Eve fell, and there’s no way around it. And you’ve got – this is a picture of sin, of sin expanding, of 500 years ago, from the middle ages, from men of the middle ages, through today, and there’s very little of the Church left. The Church used to occupy the whole of civilization: now it occupies just a tiny, little part. And yet the Church is the truth, and men don’t see it because they don’t believe it! Men don’t believe in the truth or they don’t LOVE the truth. In Scripture, St. Paul says, the Antichrist will come BECAUSE MEN HAVE NOT LOVED THE TRUTH. And that’s exactly what we see today. There will be an “Operation of Error”– that’s today’s MEDIA. The Media today are VILE – V-I-L-E! They are VILE, because they have NO INTEREST IN THE TRUTH. All they have interest in, is promoting the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr. And they’re promoting the errors that promote the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr: like Liberalism. And it’s a conspiracy, I was saying a little earlier, it’s a gigantic plot, plan, to GET RID OF GOD COMPLETELY, to get rid of Jesus Christ completely, to get rid of the Catholic Church completely.
Get OUT of your creation, God! Move over! Because we’re going to do a better job than you EVER did! God, kindly GET OUT OF YOUR CREATION. Make way for us – MEN! And we will SHOW YOU that WE can do a BETTER JOB than YOU EVER DID!
That’s the mentality. And it’s blasphemous, of course! It’s HORRIBLE, but that’s the way that people today think.
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So, so, we’re at the end of a long and deadly process, of poor sinners giving way to seduction by the devil, of trashing the Catholic Church, of trashing the Redemption, of trashing Our Lord Jesus Christ: you can’t put it any other way.
What’s for tomorrow? It’s going to be rough tomorrow, but, BUT, the Church is not here to save civilization, the Church is here to save SOULS. And, when a large number of souls are on the road to salvation you have a beautiful civilization, with cathedrals, with the great cathedrals, and Christendom and so on, with Tradition, kings, and the people happy. When you have few souls on the road to salvation, you have a horrible civilization. But the way to save civilization is to save souls. And souls today can still be saved. Even today, it’s not impossible to save one’s soul. And we need a great trust in God: God is still in command, there’s no question about that. God is in command: God knows what He’s doing, moreover. He’s allowing this tremendous mess, because he’s going to bring out of it a great triumph of the Church! You may know there’s going to be, uh, I’ve said that, I’m convinced that Our Lady of Akita is true: it’s approved of the Church. I’m sure there’s going to be a rain of fire, I just know there’s going to be – just like in Noah there was a rain of water, to wash the whole earth clean, there will be a rain of fire to wash, to burn, to burn the earth clean. Then there will be a triumph of the Church, and when that triumph falls, that will be, I think that will be the arrival of the Antichrist.
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I think: I might easily be wrong, I think the end of the world might easily be about 60 years away. I might be easily be wrong, too little or too far; I think about 60 years away, that’s just my guess. But it’s only a guess. It’s not a truth of faith, so don’t say, Bishop Williamson says it’s going to be sixty years. He says, “It MAY be sixty years.” His best guess is 60 years, it’s no other than that: my “best guess” is around 60 years; but it may easily take longer. The wheels of God grind slow, but they grind exceeding small, says the prophet. But God grinds slow. God is very patient. And therefore it may easily be more than 60 years, but, however may that be, as long as we’re still alive then we can still save our souls. So don’t doubt that we can still save our souls. They’ve not yet come after us with the prison camps and the electric shocks, so they’ve not yet thrown us into Guantanamo Bay and so on and so on. They may tomorrow. But sufficient for today is the evil thereof. We don’t have to worry today about the problems of tomorrow. But we do need to worry about today, about keeping the 10 Commandments today: it is still possible – it’s still possible – it’s hard, but it’s infinitely well worth it, because, the reward is heaven! Heaven is infinitely well worth it! Heaven lasts forever, this little life only lasts another 10, 20, 30 years, or whatever. So – where the answer is, we stay with Archbishop Lefebvre, if a chunk of the Archbishop’s followers lose in the plot, and fall away, we stay with ones who do not fall away, who do not lose in that, who are not going Liberal or Protestant or modern: Ahh! The ones that do NOT BELIEVE that we can associate with the Conciliar Church.
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The Conciliar Chruch is a collection of Modernists and Liberals and Protestants! It’s all of those ideas, all of those wrong ideas, inside the Catholic Church: Ahh! made – made acceptable inside the Catholic Church, given the Catholic stamp of approval! – Stamp of approval, to all these anti-Catholic heresies – unbelievable! But that’s the Catholic madness! And we thought, in the Society: OH! What a joy! Here’s an oasis in the desert, the error is shut out, the error is NOT in the Society – thank goodness we’ve at last found somewhere with some sanity and not the madness.. And then BOOM! The Society begins to go crazy! UUHgH! My knees buckle, and I just – No, no, no, no, no, you stand on your feet. The knees don’t buckle! Ahh! No more than the little virgin martyrs “buckled” in front of the Roman emperor! The virgin martyrs were right! “They were defenseless; they had no strength!” – They were STRONGER than the Roman empire!
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Their religion finally converted the whole Roman empire. St. John says: “Our faith is our victory over the world!” And you, if you and I keep the true faith, and don’t mix it with error, and don’t let ourselves be seduced by the Conciliar Church, and by the rotten, modern, Liberal modern world, if you and I don’t allow ourselves, our faith to be contaminated – if we keep our faith pure, then all of the New Worlders, and NewAgers and NewChurchers can come up and come after us, they can torture us black and blue, they can do what they like, but they’re not going to shake us – and if they torture us to death, they will simply send us on a fast elevator to heaven! So what do we lose? But, it’s, uh, it’s tough to keep the faith. It’s always been, it’s never been easy. At the end of his life, the great Apostle, St. Paul says, as he writes to Timothy, “I’ve run my course,” see, he knows he’s going to die soon, he says, “I’ve run my course, I’ve fought the good fight, I’ve kept the faith.” Obviously, St. Paul was thinking: He COULD have LOST the faith! He KEPT the faith, of course, he’s a hero, a great hero, one of the two Princes of the Apostles. But he could have lost the faith too, but he didn’t. He kept the faith. You and I must keep the faith. But if you and I keep the Faith, then there’s nothing the modern world can do to us. One way or another, we will triumph over it.
Hang tight. Hang tight. Prepare for, as I said a while ago, one helluva ride. It’s going to be a helluva ride, because as the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr closes in: CKCKCKCKCK (grip on one’s neck) with it’s grips, with it’s claws, we’re going to be like the little virgin martyrs, we’re going to have the whole system crashing down on us:
“NO, your majesty, you’re wrong. You’re a bunch of DEVILS.”
“AAAAAAAAA!”
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“Your Media are VILE!”
“AAAAA”
“Your electronics are rotten!”
“AAAAA – then I’m going to electrocute you, and electrocute you, and electrocute you till you’re burnt, till you’re frazzled, slowly, to a black cinder!”
“Do what you like: you’re going to send me to heaven!”
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, it’s going to be fun, ha-ha-ha-ha (audience chuckles too). It’s serious, it’s very serious, but we might as well enjoy ourselves on the way – ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.
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Any questions? …Yes!
~ (questioner: very faint sound from audience) My name is (inaudible) from St. Catherine’s. Originally I’m from St. Paul. My question is kind, of a, my thought, with, eh, con, Vatican II, there was resistance of true Catholics, who didn’t want to go with it…
+W: Right.
~ So, what do you think, in theory, that it was created, sos idea, to take this group, take for a ride, forty years, and bring them back the - ?
+W: Oh, no. No, no, no. Seriously, no. I can see what you’re saying, what you’re suggesting that, even the Society of St. Pius X was a plot. No, no. I knew the Archbishop for several years. I worked with him, under him, no, no, no. He was a great man of God. No, the Society began very well, and it’s only now corrupting. It’s lasted forty years in the modern world, that’s good going. And there is still a lot of good priests in the Society. It’s just that, the fish rots from the head, the head has gone rotten, that I do think. But there’s a lot of good priests, and you’ve got to pray for them, to work with them – no, no, no, no, no. The Society was not a plot from the beginning. No, surely not. It’s being corrupted, but it’s being – the apple was a good apple before it became a rotten apple. Yes? So the Catholic Church was, it – it – it, the Society may, it may have some infiltrators, there’s some conscious agents of the devil, that’s an interesting question, but I think, mostly, it’s um, that they’re not, I don’t think the pope, the popes or the Superior General need to be Freemasons themselves, I don’t think that’s how it works. They’re good men, who allowed themselves, sooner or later to be seduced by the errors of the modern world.
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Yes?
~ (questioner)…Francis… Our Lord and the Church was spotless and indefectible, but you said many times that the [inaudible – mumbles] false hope, no longer Catholic Church. Heretics, and can heretics be Catholics? The sin of heresy: can they do the sin of heresy? The people enough.
+W: Okay, that’s a classic, and a difficult question. And um, I’m not – I haven’t got a slick answer, okay, there’s not.. It’s a question I can’t answer in 30 seconds.
~ But- but, previous Fathers of the Church, they say, if anyone falls into heresy, then it’s a fall…(inaudible)
+W: Okay, then look: first, you’ve got to distinguish between Formal heresy and Material heresy. Okay, please, please. Formal heresy is when somebody denies, obstinately, what he knows to be a defined Catholic truth. Material heresy is when he denies a defined truth, without realizing what he’s doing. Now, when heresy, when heresy becomes almost normal, when a huge number of people are in heresy, heresy looks as though is normal, and normally, what is normal is true, in a sense. There is a sense in which everybody says something, you can assume it’s true. Now, everybody today assumes these Masonic errors are true. Everybody is out of line. Therefore, it’s very easy to be out of line without realizing it. Let me give you a little example: John Paul II. John Paul II is part of this huge… He’s got 2,000 bishops, I don’t know exactly the figure, but let’s assume it’s maybe up there with 2,000 bishops in the Church, at the time of John Paul II, I think actually there were more. Let’s for here, let’s call it 3,000. Of these, 1,500 said, “JPII, you are FAR TOO CONSERVATIVE! You’re far too Catholic! We want a left wing revolution in the Church!” The other 1500 said, “JPII, thank GOODNESS you’re so conservative! Thank GOODNESS you’re so Catholic!”
Now, there were only TWO little bishops that said, “JPII, you’re way off track!”
So, you’ve got 3,000 praising him, or blaming him for being Catholic, praising or blaming him for being so Catholic, and two who tell him that he isn’t Catholic. Now, what normally does a man think, when he’s got 3,000 people telling him that he’s right, and he’s got two telling him that he’s wrong? Isn’t that normal for such a man to say, “Well, I can’t be all that wrong!”?
It’s as you see, the modern world is SO wrong, that it’s very easy to BE wrong and not THINK you’re wrong. In other words, you will be wrong without realizing it, in other words, you are liable to be a material heretic instead of a formal heretic. And if you’re a material heretic, you are not excluding yourself from the Church. The only heretics that are automatically excluded from the Church are the formal heretics. Today, it’s difficult to be a formal heretic.
Do you think that Pope Ratzinger denies the Holy Trinity? Not at all. Do you think he denies the Incarnation? Not at all. Do you think he denies transubstantiation? He absolutely believes in it.
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But, at the same time, he believes in people who don’t – he believes in NOT believing in transubstantiation.
PEOPLE’S MINDS TODAY ARE MUSH!
How can a mush mind be wrong? How can a mush mind be heretical?
Has anybody else got a question? Look, it’s a big problem. But my solution to that problem is, that when everybody has got a mush mind, it’s not easy to be a formal heretic.
~ Well, once I got a mush mind, but I was pause in churl back in paula, and then I seen by the froosse thah sontheen ees wrong. And then I star reading my heeeestory because I deen know nothing!
+W: Yes.. yes..
~ That’s my chooorts! That’s…
+W: Yes! Okay! Let’s say, you had entered the Catholic seminary in Poland, let’s say 20 or 30 years ago, you would have ended as a bright, honest, decent lad, and you would have begun, you would have accepted what your Conciliar teachers taught you, and as you accepted what your Conciliar teachers taught you, you would not have kept the faith, as you now seem to have kept it! And you would have got into error, without realizing that you were in error, on the contrary, because your Polish pope would be telling you that you’re absolutely right, and your polish bishops would tell you you’re right, your Polish teachers in the seminary would be telling you you’re right, and yet, you would be wrong! So, whereas you were just a layman, you have not had this seminary “formation” – this seminary MISFORMATION! You’ve not had these superiors PUSHING YOU TO BE WRONG, and telling you that you’re right! You’re just a dumb layman, excuse me, but with the grace of God! You had the grace of God to say: “This doesn’t jibe! This doesn’t add up! And then, by the grace of God, you began to do a bit of homework, and sure enough: you looked for the truth and you found it. But you were lucky enough not to have gone into a seminary!
Many, many of these young men who have gone into these seminaries, in the last 40 years of the Conciliar seminaries, many of them have lost the faith, without realizing that they were!
Malachi Martin says, or that is, he used to say, “You can lose the faith without realizing it.” Today, the situation is DREADFUL. Things are not clear at all. There is a tremendous confusion across the board. And that’s my explanation of how, and these, the pope, the pope is not necessarily not pope. Because, he’s not necessarily a formal heretic. In fact, I doubt that he is: If you or I were to walk up to him and say, Holy Father, do you believe in transubstantiation? He would just laugh. Holy Father, do you think there’s a possibility that you are not Pope? “HA!” He would say, “Look: Go and have an ice.. – Go and have an Italian ice cream! Go do something to make you feel good.” That’s what he’d say, it’s ridiculous!
~ ..What about the Moslems when he says that we have the same god?
+W: He’s way off track! I know! Of course he’s way off track. He’d say, “I believe that Jesus Christ is God; I believe that 2 and 2 are 4; but I ALSO believe that Allah is god, 2 and 2 are 5. Modern minds have no problem with 2 and 2 are 4, and 2 and 2 are 5 AT THE SAME TIME. Modern minds no longer have a truth which EXCLUDES ERROR. Their Newtruth, spelt as one word, N-e-w-t-r-u-t-h, their Newtruth INCLUDES AND EMBRACES ALL ERROR! This is more CREATIVE. This is more FREE. This is more PROGRESSIVE. This is all more luv-luv-luv – spelled: “l-u-v-l-u-v-l-u-v.”. We’re creating a civilization of luv, spelled l-u-v. John Paul II: Civilization of LUV.
~ But Modernism was condemned by St. Pius X…
+W: I know! But don’t you understand: That was good for it’s day! Pius X was a great Pope! No doubt about it! But you know: that’s a hundred years ago! Ah- we’ve moved on since then! We need something DIFFERENT for TODAY! EEEhheehHHeEE! Big smile! Big, hypocritical smile!! But it’s not even hypocritical! These people, these nonsense merchants are convinced of their nonsense! They’re in GOOD WILL with their NONSENSE. This is why there’s so much confusion! You CAN’T SAY, “He’s talking nonsense, therefore he’s of bad will.” Or, “He’s of bad will, therefore he’s talking nonsense!”
A lot of people of bad will can talk sense, and especially, a lot of people with good will can talk nonsense. That’s very common today.
Yes.
~ [new questioner] But in that way, you’ve reached honesty. All across the Church you have people stating nonsense, heresy, where …
+W: You never had, you’ve never had the MASSIVE people’s minds of mush like today. At the time of Arius, you had a mass of peasants, living on the land. No industry. No tractors. No uuhhhmm, railway trains. No Media, not newspapers, no television. People had a LOT MORE COMMON SENSE IN THOSE DAYS. And common sense – common sense is GONE today!! Common sense is being washed out, all the time. People are losing their common sense.
~ Do you think they have the benefit of insanity? [repeats question]
+W: Yes! They have the benefit and the curse of insanity, both at the same time. They can’t be judged like sane people, or they can hardly be judged like sane people. How would he? At God’s judgment seat, how God’s going to judge modern souls: that’s His problem and not ours! But I think God’s going to be, in a WAY, quite merciful to a lot of souls, because how is – how can he – how can a yo