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HONOR AND GLORY TO BP. WILLIAMSON
Dom Thomas Aquinas
September 3, Feast of St. Pius X
In this dramatic moment in the life of the Holy Church, moment in which the Faith is most gravely threatened, an episcopal voice rises and confirms the faithful in the faith of their Baptism. Whose is this voice but of the bishop persecuted, slandered, accused of rebellion, etc., etc., etc.? And why is he persecuted, slandered, accused? Precisely because he defends the Faith and this crime has no forgiveness in the modern world. The modern world accepts everything; it even accepts the Tradition, as long as the Tradition accepts the modern world. The modern world is a highly concentrated solvent. It accepts everything it can dissolve, except the indissoluble Catholic Faith, except the integral, pure and immaculate Catholic doctrine, and this is what is at stake in this dramatic moment for the Tradition. Are we going to divide the Faith as Solomon proposed the two women vying for a child? The modernist Rome says: "Yes, let's divide the Faith, let's do a bargain. Why not?" Bishop Williamson says: " No, non possumus", and we are with him: "Non possumus!". Like Saint Peter we say to the Pharisees: "We cannot stop preaching in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ! Judge yourselves whether it is better to obey God than men." The child must live, as in the judgment of Solomon. In the present case, it is not the child who should live, but the mother, Our Mother the Holy Church. To divide Her by giving a piece to the modernists and a piece the traditionalists? Never!
For all these reasons we say and proclaim: "Honor and glory to Bishop Williamson and to all the priests who defend the faith without compromise with the enemies of the Catholic Faith." Some may be scandalized by the mere fact of speaking about enemies in this terrible battle. If this is your case, dear reader, remember that the Church here on earth is called militant, because it militates against three cruel enemies, as states the Catechism of the Council of Trent, which are the devil, the world and the flesh. Also remember the prayer: "By the sign of the Holy Cross, deliver us, from our enemies, O Lord our God." Remember also what says St. Pius X, who we celebrate today. The enemies of the Church are currently in the veins of the same Church.
These enemies are in Rome, unfortunately, this Rome who wants to make a deal with the Tradition, i.e., the Rome modernist which wants to make a deal with the eternal Rome. To what end? Even if it is not known the intention of the heart of Benedict XVI, it is not difficult to know how all this will end if this agreement (whose bitter fruits are already being felt, even before completion) takes place. The fruit, which already can be seen, is the silence of the Tradition, but as St. Gregory the Great said: "The Church would rather die than be silent." Then She, the real mother, won't shut up, will not do this shameful agreement, but will continue to speak, preach and work for the salvation of their children. This is what the brave priests are doing, this is what is doing Bp. Williamson. For this reason we say: "Honor and glory to Bp. Williamson, successor of the apostles and confessor of the Faith"
Honor and glory to the Bishop who administered 99 confirmations in eight days and directed his apostolic word 15 times to different audiences, which together represent more than 300 people in this vast Brazil, evangelized by the Portuguese and now by a Bishop of the former "island of saints".
Our monastery of Santa Cruz and the faithful of Rio, Salvador, Vitoria, Campo Grande (where a connection delay prevented the departure of Bp. Williamson), Maringá and Nova Friburgo thank the solicitude of a true Archbishop Lefebvre's son, faithful to his teachings , who came in to confirm, not only with the sacrament, but also with his deep understanding of revealed doctrine, of the modern errors and of medicine for today's illness, among which stands out with a special glow the Holy Rosary, which Bp. Williamson recommends to pray complete every day. May the Virgin Mary obtain us the grace to watch and pray to avoid falling into the temptation of agreements and to defeat the infernal serpent that wants to destroy the Tradition.
English version seen here:
http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?s=830a28e0677009addd74c02fba9cf7fe&showtopic=10756
Spanish can be seen here:
http://nonpossummus.foroactivo.mx/t180-honor-y-gloria-a-monsenor-williamson-por-dom-tomas-de-aquino
And Portuguese here:
http://spessantotomas.blogspot.com/2012/09/honra-e-gloria-dom-williamson.html
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Thank you, AntiFellayism, for posting this beautiful letter from Dom Thomas Aquinas. St. Pius X, please pray for us! Godspeed, Bishop Williamson ...
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Awesome! A militant and holy monk! A militant & fierce bishop! :applause:
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I was just rereading the famous August 2011 leaked letter from Bishop Fellay to Bishop Williamson. Back then I found it hard to believe all the things that Bishop Fellay said about his confrere. Someone must be slandering him, I thought.
All that seems a long time ago, as I read you praising him to the skies for being exactly what Bp. Fellay accused him of being. He, the old adversary of Fr. Cekada, is now just as contemptuous of the Society as his old adversary. He, the old adversary of Bishop Rifan, is nearly as much of an angler as that old adversary. He, the great adversary of liberalism, is now the apostle of doing what he pleases when, where and as he pleases, all the time insisting that it was exactly what Abp. Lefebvre always counseled and would have done if he were here. One inevitably recalls Martin Luther and sola scriptura.
So now he has perhaps added to his following some part of the 300 people who heard him speak in Brazil. In the U.S. he has the folks on this and similar sites and some additional sympathizers. He was curiously absent from the August 10 declaration that caused my family to leave Fr. Ringrose and St. Athanasius, and Father seems not to have uttered a squeak about him in public. Not many people have left St. Athanasius, but then not many people have left their SSPX chapels. Meanwhile, no other "indy" priests have rallied to the Williamsonian standard, nor any SSPX priests except those who signed the August 10 declaration, all three of them, one of whom seems to be having second thoughts. Fr. Pfeiffer didn't exactly knock 'em dead in St. Mary's. This all seems to be going nowhere fast, and will go slower yet as all but the stubbornest are forced to admit that there will be no sellout, since Rome wants Vatican II and the Society is having none of it. If Bp. Fellay's strategy is to let it all burn itself out before he gives +W once more chance and then sacks them, it seems to be working.
It's also worth noting that Bp. Williamson has not exactly run with the battle flag to the front of the column in order to lead the troops forward. Unlike the revered Abp. Lefebvre, his activity has been largely with his mouth and pen. Perhaps he doesn't want to part with those digs in Wimbledon that, amazingly enough, he still occupies. Perhaps he senses that other than St. Athanasius and Nova Fribourga, there probably won't be much work for a vagus bishop, and of course he's no kid.
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I was just rereading the famous August 2011 leaked letter from Bishop Fellay to Bishop Williamson. Back then I found it hard to believe all the things that Bishop Fellay said about his confrere. Someone must be slandering him, I thought.
All that seems a long time ago, as I read you praising him to the skies for being exactly what Bp. Fellay accused him of being. He, the old adversary of Fr. Cekada, is now just as contemptuous of the Society as his old adversary. He, the old adversary of Bishop Rifan, is nearly as much of an angler as that old adversary. He, the great adversary of liberalism, is now the apostle of doing what he pleases when, where and as he pleases, all the time insisting that it was exactly what Abp. Lefebvre always counseled and would have done if he were here. One inevitably recalls Martin Luther and sola scriptura.
So now he has perhaps added to his following some part of the 300 people who heard him speak in Brazil. In the U.S. he has the folks on this and similar sites and some additional sympathizers. He was curiously absent from the August 10 declaration that caused my family to leave Fr. Ringrose and St. Athanasius, and Father seems not to have uttered a squeak about him in public. Not many people have left St. Athanasius, but then not many people have left their SSPX chapels. Meanwhile, no other "indy" priests have rallied to the Williamsonian standard, nor any SSPX priests except those who signed the August 10 declaration, all three of them, one of whom seems to be having second thoughts. Fr. Pfeiffer didn't exactly knock 'em dead in St. Mary's. This all seems to be going nowhere fast, and will go slower yet as all but the stubbornest are forced to admit that there will be no sellout, since Rome wants Vatican II and the Society is having none of it. If Bp. Fellay's strategy is to let it all burn itself out before he gives +W once more chance and then sacks them, it seems to be working.
It's also worth noting that Bp. Williamson has not exactly run with the battle flag to the front of the column in order to lead the troops forward. Unlike the revered Abp. Lefebvre, his activity has been largely with his mouth and pen. Perhaps he doesn't want to part with those digs in Wimbledon that, amazingly enough, he still occupies. Perhaps he senses that other than St. Athanasius and Nova Fribourga, there probably won't be much work for a vagus bishop, and of course he's no kid.
Talk about SLANDER... Where's the Catholic charity in all this "high and mighty" speech?
God and the Faith are worth ANYTHING: Reputation, Friends, Life, EVERYTHING! It doesn't matter who goes along. Those who keep the Faith are the true Crusaders for Our Lord.
Archbishop Lefebvre was the most recent role model for Crusader, and one whom we've come to know and love. Bishop Fellay is betraying his vision ... and betraying Holy Mother Church ... because Archbishop Lefebvre was a VERY holy bishop, raised up by God to help us in these horrible times.
Bishop Fellay does NOT care about souls. He SHRUGS off the fact that, in those diosese where the bishops are hostile to tradition, souls will be left without pastors or the sacraments WHEN Bishop Fellay is able to give the SSPX chapels to modernist Rome.
"The salvation of souls is the highest law." Those who resist Bishop Fellay's subversion (his blatent disregard for souls) are the true Crusaders for Christ. THEY are the ones who will be rewarded in heaven, even if they never see ANY reward in this life.... even if they are the very last ones to fight for souls.
Souls are VERY precious!
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The same old double standards. A post like that regarding bishop Fellay would have earned the indignation of many here.
Now the Williamsonites have come out to proclaim the cult of man as they look to their 'superhero' to save their them ! O if only I could be with my superhero :dancing:
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No Mr. McFarland. You left St. Athanasius because you've been corrected. LOL! God bless Fr. Ringrose & Dr. White.
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Father Rostand unleashes the aging American pit-bull, John McFarland, who... "weel bite zee evil sedes!"
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It's a pity that the good Bishop had to stay away from the houses of the SSPX, but it's logical because we're seeing the final battle for the SSPX.
However, here's some nice pictures from Don Thomas Aquinas' website (http://beneditinos.org.br/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=102:fotos-de-dom-williamson-no-mosteiro&catid=7:atualidades&Itemid=97).
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I could also post them here, but they're wide...
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OK, new page now, here they are:
(http://beneditinos.org.br/images/stories/fotos_do_bispo/IMG_2491.JPG)
(http://beneditinos.org.br/images/stories/fotos_do_bispo/IMG_2496.JPG)
(http://beneditinos.org.br/images/stories/fotos_do_bispo/IMG_2534.JPG)
(http://beneditinos.org.br/images/stories/fotos_do_bispo/IMG_2546.JPG)
(http://beneditinos.org.br/images/stories/fotos_do_bispo/IMG_2570.JPG)
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Some years ago I believe it was Patrick H. Omlor who criticized the SSPX for behaving as though the Vatican II Church was merely the naughty branch of the True Church! Thank Heavens we have Bishop Williamson as an exception to this (mis)behaviour!
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All that seems a long time ago, as I read you praising him to the skies for being exactly what Bp. Fellay accused him of being. He, the old adversary of Fr. Cekada, is now just as contemptuous of the Society as his old adversary. He, the old adversary of Bishop Rifan, is nearly as much of an angler as that old adversary. He, the great adversary of liberalism, is now the apostle of doing what he pleases when, where and as he pleases, all the time insisting that it was exactly what Abp. Lefebvre always counseled and would have done if he were here. One inevitably recalls Martin Luther and sola scriptura.
So you compare the most recent crisis in the SSPX with both the 1983 "split" of the nine and the the Protestant revolt. The latter really needs no comment, while with the former, a strained comparison is about all that can be made.
It seems that as it is more likely Bp. Williamson may be headed out of the SSPX, criticism of him by the "virtuous" now becomes virtuous.
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This latent animosity of the Fellayites is unbecoming of true Society members.
If they were honest, they would just leave. But instead, they dig in and dish out
the venom. Things can get a lot worse...............
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Incredulous,
I am not the tool of that cheese-eating surrender monkey with the funny accent, Little Judas Rostand. He and I haven't spoken since I chatted amiably at Winona a few years back with him and Other Little Judas Le Roux; nor has he deputized any of the Littler Judases of the Society to give me my marching orders, although they have suggested that I tone it down a bit, and even cut it out.
Furthermore, I am not ag(e)ing. I am aged.
Nonetheless, I seem still to have enough on my fastball that you'd sooner fire insults than reasoned refutations my way.
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Mr. McFarland, it is strange that simultaneous with mocking Bishop Williamson for a paucity of influence and followers you feel compelled to attack him in multiple forums, as though he actually presents some sort of threat to Bishop Fellay, the man of many followers and much influence.
I'll submit that, because you are a man of intelligence, your animosity derives from the discomfort Bishop Williamson delivers in the form of sound reasoning and critical analysis. This beneficiary of the work of Archbishop Lefebvre can agree that Bishop Williamson has left himself open to criticism on several fronts over the years, but never with respect to what REALLY matters: the defense of the faith. On the other hand, every criticism leveled at Bishop Fellay is very much a matter of the defense of the faith.
I'll take an eccentric personality that defends the faith any day, over a disoriented, confused dialoguer who is wreaking havoc in the work founded by Archbishop Lefebvre, may he rest in peace and may his legacy not be frittered away.
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Could someone please explain what is going on with Bishop Williamson in Brazil? It just seems to me that the original post was a whole heap of words that didn't explain anything at all and in fact just leaves me scratching my head.
Yes I know Bishop Williamson is a wonderful Bishop but I don't get is why all of a sudden after being under "house arrest" for so long, he is suddenly off to Brazil to do Confirmations. Don't get me wrong. I think its great, but perhaps I'm missing something. Was he sent their by Bishop Fellay or did he go of his own accord? I have not heard of Bishop Williamson doing any serious travelling and administering of Sacraments since the whole h0Ɩ0h0αx sharade.
Are the Benedictine's in Brazil affiliated with the SSPX and what is their current relationship with the SSPX?
I'm just trying to get my head around a thread that tells me very little and I don't speak Spanish.
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Yes I know Bishop Williamson is a wonderful Bishop but I don't get is why all of a sudden after being under "house arrest" for so long
As a real bishop he didn't take this "house arrest" too serious. And he mentioned several of his many journeys in his Eleison Comments.
A short while ago I heard a canonical expert (outside of the Neo-SSPX) saying that a bishop gets his "right to evangelise" apostolate with his bishop consecration, and that not even a rightful and formal superior can deny this right to the bishop. So if Bishop Williamson decides that such a journey to the brave Dom Thomas Aquinas and his abbey is a necessary part of the bishop's evangelisation, no-one can hinder the bishop from doing so.
he is suddenly off to Brazil to do Confirmations. Don't get me wrong. I think its great, but perhaps I'm missing something. Was he sent their by Bishop Fellay or did he go of his own accord?
He was not sent there by Bishop Fellay.
The Brazilian Neo-SSPX district superior now wrote a very angry news-letter stating that there are no ties anymore between the Neo-SSPX and Dom Thomas Aquinas. So it seems they're Neo-SSPX-"excommunicated" now... (And soon the good bishop will be, too.)
But as with the Newchurch and their "excommunication" of Archbishop Lefebvre, this must be a good thing!
God save Bishop Williamson and all the other faithful clerics like Don Thomas Aquinas.
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Our good Cristera posted the Brazilian Neo-SSPX district superior's angry news-letter yesterday on the other forum.
And the persecution begins: Father Bouchacourt's Communiqué (http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=10778)
Little improved Google translation:
Statement regarding the pastoral visit of Bishop Williamson to Brazil
At the invitation of Dom Thomas, prior of the monastery of the Holy Cross at Nueva-Friburgo, M. R. E. Williamson came to confer the sacrament of confirmation and give some lectures.
I would like to clarify that this trip has been organized independently from the SSPX. Indeed, according to the directives left by our founder Archbishop Lefebvre, only the Superior General, in this case Bishop Fellay, gives the mandate to the auxiliary bishops to undertake a pastoral visit. This procedure has not been respected, which constitutes a serious act against the virtue of obedience but also a more basic lack of courtesy. In addition, the District Superior agreement has not been requested as required by the statutes of our Society. The harmonious collaboration that existed between the SSPX and the Monastery of the Holy Cross has been broken by this act of great gravity, so the organizers must take responsibility before God. Indeed, some faithful have been deceived and they attended the ceremonies and conferences announced believing that they had been organized by the SSPX.
After Dom Tomás Aquina’s article «Honor and Glory to Mgr Williamson», I denounce with the strongest firmness the indirect accusations which were stated suggesting that the SSPX wanted to have a deal with modernism and to cease fighting for the defense of the Catholic Tradition.
These hints are unfounded, false, hurtful and injurious to our Superior General and to the SSPX’s members. I cannot admit them and remain silent. If Bishop Fellay has rejected Rome’s extended hand on June 13, is due to doctrinal reasons. And it is because we reject Vatican II imbued of modernism, which is the main cause of today’s Church’s ruin and we want to continue saying so, it is also because we reject the Novus Ordo Missae, which “in its ensemble and details”, departs from Catholic doctrine, that no practical agreement has been signed with Rome. This was the position of Archbishop Lefebvre in the past and this is Bishop Fellay’s position today. The General Chapter in July has confirmed it. Any other assertion is nothing more than manipulation or lie. Any prophecy about a practical agreement reveals a morbid imagination.
At the beginning of December, M. R. E. Bishop de Galarreta will come to visit us and to confer the sacrament of Confirmation in Brazil and other countries in our district as our Superior General has planned many months ago.
I invite the faithful of the Catholic tradition in Brazil to not pay attention to rumors, to continue to support their priests for their sacrifices, prayers and generosity and to beg God to send numerous and ardent vocations to defend and extend the kingdom of Christ the King under the noble flag of the Catholic tradition and the protection of the Blessed Virgin Mary. God bless you!
Father Christian BOUCHACOURT
District Superior
(And in French, Portuguese and Spanish. (http://nonpossummus.foroactivo.mx/t183-comunicado-del-padre-bouchacourt-de-la-visita-de-mons-williamson-a-brasil-la-persecucion-empieza))
This is much better:
The Prior of Santa Cruz, Nova Friburgo RJ, Dom Tomás de Aquino, knows what it's all about. He had founded Santa Cruz in 1987. Then, in 1988, his Superior, Dom Gérard Calvet of the Barroux, France, made a deal with Rome. Nova Friburgo RJ is less than 100 miles from Campos dos Goytacazes RJ, where Dom Fernando Arêas Rifan sold out the work of Dom Antônio de Castro Mayer in 2001.
Honor and Glory to Bishop Williamson, and Honor and Glory to Dom Tomás!
Dom Antônio and Dom Lefebvre, pray for us!
And also this is very nice:
(http://i31.servimg.com/u/f31/17/61/94/25/cruzad10.jpg)
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:applause:
They are the real men and unwavering combatants for the Faith... while NeoSSPX management carries on a 12+ years love affair with Apostate Modernist Rome.
So it's "illegal" for Bp. Williamson to save souls in Brazil but it is "admirable" for Fellay to wine & dine & who knows what else with apostates? Heaven help us!
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I asked my priest and he says that a bishop who is a member of a congregation is released from his obedience to his superiors, and that this is written in canon laws. He is bound only to the Holy Father. According to him the bishops of the SSPX must normally follow the directions of Bishop Fellay but they are not bound to him by obedience.
We must pray and make sacrifices for Bishop Fellay so that he reunites with his brother bishops.
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I asked my priest and he says that a bishop who is a member of a congregation is released from his obedience to his superiors, and that this is written in canon laws. He is bound only to the Holy Father. According to him the bishops of the SSPX must normally follow the directions of Bishop Fellay but they are not bound to him by obedience.
We must pray and make sacrifices for Bishop Fellay so that he reunites with his brother bishops.
Then I hope and pray that the other two SSPX bishops realize this and act accordingly. Souls are at stake!
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Our good Cristera posted the Brazilian Neo-SSPX district superior's angry news-letter yesterday on the other forum.
And the persecution begins: Father Bouchacourt's Communiqué
Little improved ... translation:
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And now, in response to Fr. Bouchacourt's letter:
Declaration of Dom Tomás de Aquino
8. September 2012
DECLARAÇÃO DE DOM TOMÁS DE AQUINO (http://spessantotomas.blogspot.com.br/2012/09/declaracao-de-dom-tomas-de-aquino.html) (Portuguese)
(Thanks to Faber for the following English translation (http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=10791) ! )
In view of the Communiqué of Rev Fr Bouchacourt the Monastery of the Holy Cross declares to have called H.E. Msgr Richard Williamson to Brazil because he is considered a worthy defender of the Catholic Faith, able to confirm in the Faith not only the monks of the Holy Cross, but also the relgious communities and the faithful, who see with great apprehension the nefarious policy of practical agreements with Rome before Rome converts of its liberal and modernist errors.
Why had the Capuchins, the Dominicans and even the Benedictines of Bellaigue their candidates excluded or threatened to be excluded from the ordinations, if not because of their opposition against an agreement? And this when Rome already didn't want the agreement anymore, at least not at this moment.
To keep the true reasons of what we are experiencing secret, is missing the truth. Why was Msgr Williamson asked to shut down his “Eleison Comments” if not because of the doctrine therein exposed? Why did Msgr Tissier de Mallerais have to interrupt his preaching in the USA, if not because he was against the policy of agreement? Why was Fr. Koller threatened with punishment, if not because he preached against this same policy? Why were the Rev Frs Cardozo, Chazal, Pfeiffer and others either punished or expulsed, if not because of their opposition against this same policy?
Msgr de Galarreta had called for caution some months ago: “For the good of the Society ... and of the Tradition, it's necessary to rapidly close Pandora's box, to avoid discredit and demolition of authority, to avoid contestation, discord, divisions, which may be irreversible.”
And Msgr de Galarreta asked, which would be the required conditions for a totally acceptable proposal, that is, for a victory which only can be doctrinal, because in this whole battle all rests upon the Faith. He himself answered by quoting Msgr Lefebvre: [the Archbishop explaining how he would ask them whether they are in full communion with Quanta Cura etc., many times cited on Ignis Ardens (Fideliter, n°66, November-December 1988, pp. 12-13)]
Conclusion. “Pandora's box” has not been properly closed, the line traced by Msgr Lefebvre has not been followed.
But probably the Rev Fr Bouchacourt will say that, on the contrary, everything was put right at the General Chapter. All is fine in perfect order. Sadly this is not the truth. The General Chapter maintained the objective of the agreement on a different basis than that exposed by H.E. Msgr Marcel Lefebvre. Read the Eleison Comments of Msgr Williamson about the six conditions and you will see how the resolutions of the General Chapter are not sufficient and are different from those of Msgr Lefebvre.
Others will say: what do you have to do with this? I do have, because the Faith is a common good of the Church and I belong to the Church and besides I have responsibility for the monks of Holy Cross and for the faithful who express their confidence towards us.
But they still will say: the obedience transfers the resposibilities to the superiors, and to be obedient is never wrong. Unluckily things are not so simple. This was the way how the majority of the Bishops accepted the Second Vatican Council.
But they still will say: You contribute to the division of Tradition. I respond that the union should be built around the truth, that is around the Catholic Faith. And the words and attitudes of Msgr Fellay sadly are not those of a disciple of Msgr Lefebvre, who defended the truth without concessions. Why silence Msgr Williamson and Msgr Tissier de Mallerais? Read the letter of the three Bishops to Msgr Fellay and his assistants and there you will find the reason of the battle of Tradition and the reason of our attitude.
[Gustavo] Corção [a Brazilian writer, hero of Vat. II resistance] incessantly repeated that a wrong notion of charity and union caused grave damage in the Catholic resistence. When truth and charity are separated, charity ceases to be charity. Many, even of his friends, accused him of a lack of charity because of his articles. But the first charity consists in telling the truth. And Corção was right, as the facts have proved. Msgr Lefebvre was charged with the same accusation.
Concerning union, Corção humorously said that experience had taught him against the popular saying “union makes strength” that union frequently makes weakness. And why? Because union without truth, union made with concessions, union which sacrifices the Faith, is weakness which “makes strong people weak”. And this is what happened with the Second Vatican Council, isn't it? To preserve the good of the union with Paul VI many bishops ended signing inacceptable docuмents. The union didn't make strength but the opposite.
Now, today in Tradition they want us to join, whatever it may cost, with those who believe, that the errors of the Council are not so grave, that 95% of the Councel are acceptable, that the religious liberty of Dignitatis Humanae is very, very limited, that we should not make super-heresies of the errors of the Council. But that is not true. The Council was the biggest desaster of the history of the Church since it was founded, as Msgr Lefevbre says in his book "From Liberalism to Apostasy". If we should build on this basis or we should unite on this basis, I prefer to abstain from that, and prefer to work for the integral restauration of the Catholic Faith as Msgr Marcel Lefebvre always advised us and reprimanded us, waiting that the Society reanimates anew in the Faith, which is what I hope, because it has the means to do it, it has excellent bishops and priests.
Concerning the accusation that I mislead the faithful, giving the false impression that I invited Msgr Williamson with all permissions of Msgr Fellay, I can say that for a long time I didn't hide our opposition against the policies of Msgr Fellay
to anybody; and, even given that the brazilian people may be somewhat green, I don't think that they are as green as the Rev Fr Bouchacourt thinks. On the contrary. Who doesn't know that Msgr Williamson is unpopular in Menzingen? However, here he is popular, because obedience is a virtue only if it submits to higher virtues, above all faith, hope and charity. To misuse obedience as a weapon to paralyse Tradition and repeat the master-stroke of Satan, like Msgr Lefebvre said, who by obedience put the whole Church into disobedience against tradition. We won't do that.
Let them say whatever they'll say. There is a problem, and this problem is of faith and it is grave. [cf. Arsenius, Faber]. Our position is already taken. We support who defends the faith as Msgr Lefebvre, Dom Antônio de Castro Mayer, St. Pius X and the whole Tradition of the Church did. If we have to suffer because of this, we will suffer, for Our Lord has warned us: “Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted” (2 Tim. 3, 12).
Concerning the Society, we consider it to be a providencial work, founded by a Bishop who took the most difficult virtues to the highest heroism, which are those for which God created the gifts of wisdom, intelligence, counsel, strength, science, piety and fear of God. Msgr Lefebvre, we consider him as a light that shone in the darkness of the modern world, and the Society is his work and his heiress, but with the condition to be true to the received grace. We pray for her and if we oppose the policies of Msgr Fellay, it's not because we wish to be hostile against the Society, but for love of her and of Msgr Fellay himself, like we love the Holy Church and for love of her we fight the liberalism and modernism of her enemies, who installed themselves within her. May God bless and save the Society of St. Pius X, to whom I owe all I received of the best, as much the faith as the priesthood, which I received from the hands of H.E. Msgr Marcel Lefebvre.
Br. Tomás de Aquino
8th of September 2012
Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary
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I asked my priest and he says that a bishop who is a member of a congregation is released from his obedience to his superiors, and that this is written in canon laws.
This topic is about Bishop Williamson, isn't it?
The SSPX is not a congregation and its members take no vows of obedience to the superior. So this is irrelevant.
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I am sorry. I must have misunderstood.
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I am sorry. I must have misunderstood.
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, is now just as contemptuous of the Society as his old adversary.
so, ABL was not contemptous of ROme/Paul VI, but Williamson is for refusing to whittle down or white wash?
wow, aint it great to become mainstream and staid.....
perhaps some shaking up is over-due
Due tell is John what is your beef w/Williamson?
not willing to go along and have blind, drone obediance?
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It's also worth noting that Bp. Williamson has not exactly run with the battle flag to the front of the column in order to lead the troops forward. Unlike the revered Abp. Lefebvre, his activity has been largely with his mouth and pen.
what is wrong w/mouth and pen? was good enough for the NT writers, was it not? preaching and teaching, and writing........have you read of any letters of that great Catholic writer named PAUL??
Nowadays, Williamson is all over the net, youtube,etc.......
He has a regular column to those of us, me included, that subscribe.....
He is also, what, now aged 71? 72? Did you want him to run a marathon?
Didnt ABL preach, teach and write? No internet/youtube,etc then......use what you got.....
strawman false distinctions....
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Perhaps he doesn't want to part with those digs in Wimbledon that, amazingly enough, he still occupies.
rather insulting slam, for one that bends over backwards for Fellay in his NICE digs in Swiss-Land.......
Would, really, give up your DIGS today? really?
rather getting to the heart of your feelings we are! :reporter:
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The same old double standards. A post like that regarding bishop Fellay would have earned the indignation of many here.
Now the Williamsonites have come out to proclaim the cult of man as they look to their 'superhero' to save their them ! O if only I could be with my superhero :dancing:
yeah, John was REAL fair minded there with his scattered shots at others....
No cult of man, but then, many accuse the SSPX of doing a "cult of man" when it comes to ABL....so???
your superhero is selling out and settling, and you sem fine with him after all.......
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OK, new page now, here they are:
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WOW, great pics-John McFarland-does this look like he is hiding in fancy digs in the UK???? not doing anything, huh???????
anyone see wehre Fellay is??? :scratchchin:
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All that seems a long time ago, as I read you praising him to the skies for being exactly what Bp. Fellay accused him of being. He, the old adversary of Fr. Cekada, is now just as contemptuous of the Society as his old adversary. He, the old adversary of Bishop Rifan, is nearly as much of an angler as that old adversary. He, the great adversary of liberalism, is now the apostle of doing what he pleases when, where and as he pleases, all the time insisting that it was exactly what Abp. Lefebvre always counseled and would have done if he were here. One inevitably recalls Martin Luther and sola scriptura.
So you compare the most recent crisis in the SSPX with both the 1983 "split" of the nine and the the Protestant revolt. The latter really needs no comment, while with the former, a strained comparison is about all that can be made.
It seems that as it is more likely Bp. Williamson may be headed out of the SSPX, criticism of him by the "virtuous" now becomes virtuous.
Williamson has not gone Sede and again, why is ABL applauded, but the anti-Fellay faction now attacked for dong what THEY perceive to be right against a wrong????
a poor and insulting comparison, John...
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I am not the tool of that cheese-eating surrender monkey with the funny accent, Little Judas Rostand. .
wow, the maks fall on the Superior Mr. Mcfarland......no charity and love there.....
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Incredulous,
I am not the tool of that cheese-eating surrender monkey with the funny accent, Little Judas Rostand. He and I haven't spoken since I chatted amiably at Winona a few years back with him and Other Little Judas Le Roux; nor has he deputized any of the Littler Judases of the Society to give me my marching orders, although they have suggested that I tone it down a bit, and even cut it out.
Furthermore, I am not ag(e)ing. I am aged.
Nonetheless, I seem still to have enough on my fastball that you'd sooner fire insults than reasoned refutations my way.
rest is equally unCharitable...my, your mask slippith more....what happens when one lives by excuse-making and twisting the impossible....
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"...Incredulous,
I am not the tool of that cheese-eating surrender monkey with the funny accent, Little Judas Rostand. He and I haven't spoken since I chatted amiably at Winona a few years back with him and Other Little Judas Le Roux; nor has he deputized any of the Littler Judases of the Society to give me my marching orders, although they have suggested that I tone it down a bit, and even cut it out.
Furthermore, I am not ag(e)ing. I am aged.
Nonetheless, I seem still to have enough on my fastball that you'd sooner fire insults than reasoned refutations my way..."
Mr. McFarland,
You are the best lap dog Winona has in it's arsenal of Whited Sepulcher Pharisees.
Please do not get upset at us for congratulating you for being so.
Sorry I missed you at Saint Mary's when Padre Pfeiffer said Mass there.
You must have been busy sitting at the feet of Father Ronstand by a warm fire.
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This thread is a perfect example of why Archbishop Lefevbre did not want a bishop being the Superior General of the society.
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This thread is a perfect example of why Archbishop Lefevbre did not want a bishop being the Superior General of the society.
Definitely the hand of Satan can be seen in it: Four bishops consecrated by +ABL to continue his work--confirming and ordaining--not one having more authority than the other. Flash forward, and what do you see? +ABL would not be pleased.
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It was a Bishop that sold out our Divine Master.
"...This thread is a perfect example of why Archbishop Lefevbre did not want a bishop being the Superior General of the society..."
It is a Bishop that will sell Him out again.
Santa María de Guadalupe Esperanza nuestra, salva nuestra patria y conserva nuestra Fe.
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I am not the tool of that cheese-eating surrender monkey with the funny accent, Little Judas Rostand. He and I haven't spoken since I chatted amiably at Winona a few years back with him and Other Little Judas Le Roux; nor has he deputized any of the Littler Judases of the Society to give me my marching orders, although they have suggested that I tone it down a bit, and even cut it out.
WOW!! Wonder where they'll transfer his son to now? Antarctica?
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This thread is a perfect example of why Archbishop Lefevbre did not want a bishop being the Superior General of the society.
Definitely the hand of Satan can be seen in it: Four bishops consecrated by +ABL to continue his work--confirming and ordaining--not one having more authority than the other. Flash forward, and what do you see? +ABL would not be pleased.
"not one having more authority than the other. "
Don't we get it, in +fellay FARM, 'all are equal BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL'. Lol! :geezer: :pop: