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Bishop Williamson contra the Votaries of h0Ɩ0cαųstianity
« on: April 12, 2013, 01:44:39 PM »
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  • I know hollingsworth just started putting Fr. Phluger's letter in parts, but Mr. Hoffman has finished the letter totally, with his comments. Here is the article (link here):

     Bishop Williamson contra the Votaries of h0Ɩ0cαųstianity
    Elijah against the Baal priests

    By Michael Hoffman
    April 12, 2013 • www.revisionisthistory.org

    Enclosed (below) is the publication for the first time of an obtuse and ignorant eight page letter sent to Bishop Richard Williamson in 2011 by his subordinate, Fr. Niklaus Phluger, "First Assistant" to the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) Superior General, Bernard Fellay.  Phluger is a German Catholic priest of Bishop Richard Williamson's former SSPX fraternity. Bishop  Williamson, you may recall, made international headlines by refusing to recant his statement to a Swedish television station that the persecution of Judaic persons had been exaggerated, that no one was gassed in homicidal chambers, and that the Six Million death toll was an unconscionable exaggeration. For his remarks, he was expelled by Fellay from the SSPX seminary in Argentina where he was rector,  and expelled from Argentina by the government. He faces continuing prosecution in criminal court in Germany (where he gave the interview to Swedish TV).

    Lacking the courage of the recusant Catholic priests who were racked, drawn and quartered and beheaded in Elizabethan England for holding to the truth that the rule of God is higher than the rule of monarchs, the German SSPX have been soiling their pants in terror over the prospect that if they embraced their own Bishop Williamson's right to have an opinion, as a Shepherd, on what St. Paul called "Jєωιѕн fables," (Titus 1:14), they would have to suffer the full fury of the government of Germany in closing their schools and imprisoning them. Any Amish or Old Order Mennonite of my acquaintance, and I have known about one hundred or so of them these past 25 years, would willingly suffer imprisonment, or flee with school children if necessary, in order to defy the state on a point of truth vs. lies, but not the German SSPX, or the SSPX in general under Bishop Bernard Fellay.

    In their timidity, the SSPX leadership have adopted the rabbinic h0Ɩ0cαųstianity theology of Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI, while claiming to uphold "traditional Catholicism." Where was h0Ɩ0cαųstianity in the pontificate of Pope Pius XII? Robert Faurisson of France has written at length on the subject of Pope Pius XII refusing to uphold the lie of the extermination gas chamber legends.

    In Rev. Phluger's hectoring missive to Bishop Williamson, reference will be seen to certain infallible "h0Ɩ0cαųst" sources with which he upbraids Bishop Williamson, such as (Jean-Claude) Pressac, who gave up in despair and admitted defeat in his goal of proving the existence of execution gas chambers in Auschwitz-Birkenau, and most amusingly of all, to Dr. Raul Hilberg. Bishop Williamson cannot believe Hilberg or think him credible, because Williamson took the trouble to read this writer's book, The Great h0Ɩ0cαųst Trial, which docuмents Hilberg's response to questions put to him during the 1985 trial in Toronto of Ernst Zundel, by the late traditional Catholic defense attorney Doug Christie. In court, Mr. Christie challenged Hilberg to furnish one scientific report of gassings in Auschwitz. Hilberg's response: "I'm at a loss." He couldn't do it! At the second Zundel trial in 1988, Hilberg was invited by the prosecution to testify and face cross-examination one more time by Christie (backed again by Faurisson's research). Hilberg refused, for obvious reasons.

    "Traditional Catholic" defenders of Fellay's SSPX who are traducers of Bishop Williamson, have told this writer that secular history has nothing to do with the SSPX's mission. If that is the case, why was Bishop Williamson being forced both by the pope's Vatican Secretariat of State and Bishop Fellay to recant his doubts about the homicidal gas chamber allegations? If Bishop Williamson had doubted the number of people who died in the Black Hole of Calcutta in British India, or at Elmira Prison Camp in New York during the cινιℓ ωαr, or under Ariel Sharon's carpet-bombing of downtown Beirut, Lebanon in August of 1982, neither the Vatican nor Fellay would have uttered a word of censure or reproach. Yet when it comes to what J.-M. LePen rightly termed "a detail of history" -- the claims of Auschwitz "extermination gas chambers," Williamson must bow to the secular consensus, or be denied exercise of his episcopal office (according to the pope's Secretariat), and face expulsion from the SSPX ( by order of Fellay).

    Why the special solicitation for one detail of secular history above all others? The world's only "h0Ɩ0cαųst" (or 'Shoah' as Pope John Paul II started to term it in line with тαℓмυdic mystification), has become a false religion, a religion of Judaism for gentiles. It is a fiendishly sly marketing strategy for Judaizing the West and rendering Christ's Church Militant a pile of quivering jello.

    We have heard nothing from Bishop Fellay or Fr. Phluger comparable to the windage they have exhaled concerning the shoah-bizness, concerning the concerted movement led by multi-millionaire Hollywood movie director James Cameron to deny the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. The worldwide organized movement of Resurrection-denial, with its origins in the Israeli state, is not a subject of anxious concern for modern Catholic popes or "traditional Catholic" Bishop Fellay. What does passionately concern and engage them, is the rise of any movement that obstructs the march to replace Calvary with Auschwitz as the central ontological point of suffering in the history of the West. The use of "h0Ɩ0cαųst" as a brand and trademark of Judaism and the Israeli state leaves no intellectual, sociological or cultural room for any other h0Ɩ0cαųst. It eclipses, first, the h0Ɩ0cαųst on Calvary, and then every other h0Ɩ0cαųst throughout history including the Judaic-Communist h0Ɩ0cαųst of millions of Christians in Russia and Eastern Europe from 1917 onward.

    The tragic deaths of hundreds of thousands of Judaic persons under the nαzιs is given the name of h0Ɩ0cαųst though very few of even the most frenzied partisans of Zionism and тαℓмυdism claim Judaic persons died by fire in cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs. However, the mass incineration of Japanese in Tokyo, Germans in Dresden and Arabs in Beirut may not, under any circuмstances, have their deaths by fire hallowed by the dictionary denotation of immolation by fire -- h0Ɩ0cαųst. Even the mass murder of unborn children by abortion is not permitted to enter the linguistic sanctuary and be titled a h0Ɩ0cαųst, without incurring rabid howls of outrage from Zionists and rabbis.

    This whole degenerate process, the friends of the SSPX tell us, has no bearing on the mission of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre (SSPX founder). Bishop Williamson had better believe about World War II what the ignoramuses of the SSPX leadership believe, in line with their Israeli army-connected SSPX lawyer, Mr. M. Krah, that the Kabbalistic Six Million figure, and the allegations of mass extermination gassings in the magic gas chambers of Auschwitz-Birkenau, are Holy Writ. These alleged thinking human beings in the SSPX, supposed heirs of St. Thomas Aquinas, have not bothered to read Dr. Arthur Butz, Dr. Robert Faurisson, Germar Rudolf,  Carlo Mattagno, Fred Leutchter, Richard Widmann, Samuel Crowell, the transcript of the second Zundel trial, my book on the first Zundel trial, or any other dissenting, alternative, skeptically scientific work that contradicts the Official h0Ɩ0cαųst Liturgy of the New Church of the Gas Chambers, which all Catholics must believe on penalty of sharing the same fate as Bishop Williamson -- expulsion, financial hardship, criminal prosecution, and ritual assassination of reputation by the media, and by fellow Catholics.

    In the first years of the new millennium we watch in horror as revolutionaries accomplish every one of their objectives: ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ "matrimony," women in combat, raw violence and hard-core pornography spilling from the TV and the Internet unobstructed, and тαℓмυdic Judaism and the Antichrist Israeli state everywhere on the rise. Month after month the enemies of God succeed in reversing, in just a few years' time, four thousand years of divine law and western heritage. Can anyone be so dense as to fail to see that, connected to this decay process of human alchemy, is the "h0Ɩ0cαųst" propaganda that enshrines Judaic suffering in World War II to the level of a cosmic idol to which everyone in the West must bow?

    The papacy, the Vatican, and the SSPX have all bowed, have all consented to this idolatry. In these dark times, Bishop Williamson and a tiny handful of cast-off priests (Frs. Pfeiffer, Hewko, Chazal and a few others) stand like Elijah against the Baal priests.

    [Hoffman is the author of Usury in Christendom: The Mortal Sin that Was and Now is Not]
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    Letter of Fr Nicholas Pfluger to Bishop Richard Williamson
    January 1,  2011

    Your Excellency,

    Dear Bishop Williamson,

    For months I have been meaning to write to you in order to bring up everything so to speak incomprehensible and also false in the things you have been saying over the last few years. I put it off since you never brought up arguments and obviously feel personally hurt – rather unusual for a free-thinking man. But after I could not help reading in your latest “Eleison Comments” that “World War III may not be far off”, I am now writing before time becomes short, because one never knows when time will run out.

    This prophecy of yours took my mind back to the after-dinner speeches at the Episcopal Consecrations of 1988, After the main event all four newly consecrated bishops said a few words. Bishop Tissier as usual was very theological and dogmatic. Bishop de Galarreta was short and discrete. Bishop Fellay was pastoral and balanced. But you were principally concerned with war. Perhaps you were already thinking of World War III when you cried out to the assembly, “It’s war, it’s war !”. At that time it was still the Russians who were due to attack. It would be quite a task to count up all the times in the last 22 years that you have prophesied with precise dates the Third World War and the Chastisement. At least a dozen times for sure. A task also to work out why you have never asked yourself the question whether your forecasting arises from objective analysis and not rather from subjective utopianism.

    Alas, I know you do not ask yourself such questions. Nor do you ask why I, and with me Menzingen and almost the entire Society of St Pius X and the world while we are about it, why we merely shake our heads and are simply disappointed. (I attach extracts from two e-mails, the first coming from a former pupil of yours, the second from a German town mayor.) For you it is clear. Always somebody else is to blame. Everybody else is clueless, blind to reality, agents of some organization or other, be it Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ or the Mossad or the CIA,  most recently and emphatically “the Jєωs” – the list is long. In brief, anybody who disagrees with you is either stupid or wicked or both. To any of the people who have rejected your constant warnings of war and your crude political and economic theories, and who have criticized you for them – there are many such people, and some have even been offended -- have you ever apologized ?  Have you apologized to one single one ?  Would you ever be capable of saying, “I was wrong” ?

    In fact that is a blatantly semitic way of thinking: to pin one’s own faults on a scapegoat, which bears the guilty for everything. That is what Hitler did. The Germans’ own defeat of November 9, 1918 produced a hatred for international Jєωry, which was responsible for all evil in the German nation and therefore had to be “fought openly and without mercy”.

    This problem is to be seen at another point in the latest “Eleison Comments”. You wrote there: “Derivatives… act upon the delicate mechanisms of world finance like weapons of mass destruction, because they easily fabricate an unreal world of colossal and unpayable debt.”  To which one smart reader replied, “The Bishop is showing off – “delicate mechanisms of world finance” -- as though he sees through the mechanisms of world finance and could point out their weaknesses.” You could not do that. No more can you see through the highly complex connections of politics, or the nαzιs’ mass-murder of Jєωs. You have an opinion, then you look around for a few unconnected details which somehow fit this opinion (for instance the “Leuchter Report”), and you hawk it all as the truth.

    On September 11, 2001 you were beginning your Confirmations tour in Switzerland. That evening, when Islamic terrorists crashed hi-jacked aeroplanes into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York and brought the Towers down, we arrived at about 6pm in Littau and Brother Anthony showed you the new church of the priory still under construction. He also mentioned something of the Twin Towers in New York with 50,000 people killed. You asked me to listen to the news. At 6.30pm the Confirmation ceremony began and you declared it was “the Jєωs”. How could you know that so fast ?  You could not. You had no information leading to any such conclusion. Many of the faithful were disappointed that you had nothing spiritual to say, a few were impressed that you seemed to have the solution so fast. From that day on, if not sooner, my colleagues and I saw clearly that basically you are never looking for the historical truth, but only for what is true for you, what you want to be true. You have, as I formulated it last year, an idealistic view of history, And at table in a priory, I said you are an idealist. You were deeply offended, as someone told me. But actually the truth goes a little further. You are the caricature of an idealist.

    There is a famous quotation attributed to you concerning the so-called “Protocols of the Sages of Sion”, namely : “God put it in men’s hands”. You thus raised the “Protocols” to the level of divine Revelation. That is inevitable if people want to believe in them, because the Tsarist government granted long ago that they were the product of its own secret service, and all further investigations led clearly to the same conclusion. Have you read any of these investigations, for instance the official account of the Berne Trial of 1934 ?  No, of course you have not. Yet you are certain that the “Protocols” are authentic. Why ?  Because you want them to be.

    It is the same with the nαzιs’ extermination of Jєωs. Did you read the book of Pressac which we had sent to you ?  Of course not. Have you read the standard work on the subject, Hilberg’s “The Extermination of European Jєωry”?  Not either. Attorney Krah recommended to you at least once to ask David Irving, a recognized expert in archives and until recently your mentor, what the facts are. You would not listen. That is hardly surprising, given that in the meantime Irving is not calling in question the mass-murder of millions of innocent Jєωs, including by gassing. On a different tack he is upholding abstruse theories on the side, but he is not so blind as to deny the obvious. But why go in for studying history ?  You know it all without having to study, because you insist on your idea of reality. Idealism, as I said.
    Thus there cannot have been any industrial mass-murder of Jєωs because you do not want there to have been. Because it does not fit your world-view. Therefore any docuмent proving that there was such mass-murder, is a forgery, and any witness testifying that there was, even if it was SS perpetrators themselves, is suborned, and every scientific researcher coming to the same conclusion is a liar. Similarly anyone not subscribing to your theories on 9/11 is not Catholic. You have put as much in writing, indeed that is your key question : as you once asked the Superior General, “Do you believe in the Twin Towers ?”

    I am sorry that I have to speak so harshly to you. I would have preferred to start this letter in a friendly and non-aggressive way, asking after your health and the weather in London. The weather has got to be bad in Paris because we have been waiting over five hours to take off, so I am writing this letter in a Boeing 777. I would prefer to be writing about Christmas customs in Asia and the wonderful people in particular that I had occasion to meet there, or to be writing with my thanks for having visited Japan as a Society priest as far back as 1978. At that time, by the way, only one thing mattered to you and that was to preach Jesus Christ, and him crucified; there was only one question, and that was the Truth which is Christ himself. But since then two other questions have arisen for you. The first, as you recently wrote to one of our priests, is: “Were six million Jєωs gassed, yes or no ?”  With all respect for your episcopal rank as bishop, that is not an “objective question”, it is not even a question, it is pure nonsense. Name me one serious historian, name me one single man who still claims today that six million were gassed. Not murdered, but gassed. You will not find one, is my impression. You are the one and only person who maintains any such thing. In psychology that is called a fixation. As for your second question, “Do or do not the Six Million have a religious importance ?”, your answer is unsatisfactory and false. It goes without saying that every historical question also has a religious dimension. Nobody disputes that, but our Founder, Archbishop Lefebvre, gave us a clear standpoint from which to judge of history, politics, social doctrine and so on, and that is Jesus Christ himself, the Social Kingship of Christ. That is it. And no stupid ideological or idealistic theories. As I said, under normal circuмstances, this letter would not be adopting such an approach or treating of such matters. But 2010 was not a year calling for any normal way to approach things. Unfortunately.

    In exchanges with various people, colleagues, priests, relatives, friends, outsiders, I have frequently tried to understand you. I am terribly sorry to see how you are running to waste, how you are burying yourself in the most abstruse theories and then passing them off as divine truth. Were a good fairy to grant me three wishes, one would certainly be for you to come up with the strength to recognize reality. But there are no such fairies, and in their stead a quotation comes back to me from my Greek studies : whom the gods wish to destroy, they first strike blind.

    Your Excellency, allow me a family reminiscence. You are well aware how highly my family held you in esteem, and how you enjoyed visiting our home. Back in the late 1970’s my parents were there, and you were a young priest spending the night with us, because you were celebrating Mass in the family Chapel nearby on the following morning. You were in a discussion with my father. Mother was also present. You surely remember my mother, a quiet, reserved woman, a still water running deep, at opposite poles to my father. That evening the discussion between my father and you was heated. Mother had kept quiet all evening so it was quite unexpected when she suddenly said in her quiet and almost shy way, “Father, remember your own mother was also a woman.” End of discussion.

    Your scorn of women, your hatred of Jєωs, your lack of measure were always there, only we paid no attention. We were too busy defending the Faith, rescuing the Mass, battling with modernists in the Church, to pick up on these repulsive aspects of your behavior. You were the English gentleman, eccentric for sure, but cultured, unconventional, charming. Of course the doubts grew as time went on. How often you tripped up and let yourself be influenced by strange people and ideas (I think for instance of Fr. Urrutigoity, or your notion of the Tridentine seminary being “out-of-date”). But we pushed these doubts to one side. We rather felt than consciously knew that something was not quite right. Only in 2009 did we begin to think things over and check them out. At which point we realized how deep the problem ran – a veritable abyss !  Not to say that we were in no way responsible. A few months ago, a District Superior said to me who is not much younger than yourself, “The crazy ideas of Bishop Williamson were familiar to us, and we knew all about them.”

    Long before 2009 a friend said to me that on reading the things you write, he is always asking himself if your ever gaining influence and power is something to be desired, and his answer is always, no. Moreover, were you to become influential or powerful, he, one of our active faithful, would join a Christian resistance group. Such were the doubts, such the feeling of unease.

    In his latest book the Pope has talked about you in some detail. He says that in your case one notices a lack of experience of the mainstream Church. You went straight from Protestantism – or at any rate nominal Protestantism – into the narrow world of the Society of St Pius X. Of course we were upset and indignant. On behalf of the Society, Fr Gaudron criticized the Pope’s remark and pointed out that when you converted you were for a while in the official Church. However, the Pope may have been referring to something else. You converted in the middle of the confusion following on the Council, when the old religion was seen as being worthless and its collapse was visible. Everybody felt homeless. That may be why you lack this deep feeling of what it is to be a Catholic. How else is your love of provoking people to be explained, even in front of the Blessed Sacrament ?  Is it just to provoke, or is it something more ?  What would the Pope say if he knew how constantly you refuse to speak about the virtue of love ?  yet God is love, and we read in St Jerome’s Commentary for the Feast of St John Evangelist how at the end of St John’s long life all he would ever call for was love. And there go you, saying to a Superior who asked you on a priests’ Retreat not to talk only about politics and gas-chambers and the Twin Towers, “Love – I despise the word !” And just what would the Pope say if he heard you answering orders of the Superior General with a vulgar swearword, repeated three times ?  Call such a reaction sarcasm if you like, but it is not exactly Catholic. Genuine Catholicism can be recognized by breadth of thinking, by love of the Church, by generosity of outlook, if you like, but not by hurtful slander of people who think differently, such as you are now doing through your friends on the Internet. Whoever does not share your view of history is a “Jєω”. And anyone drinking wine with Jєωιѕн colleagues is behaving like a Jєω and undermining the Society of St Pius X. Even the nαzιs did not go that far. Two years ago you told me that as Rector of the Seminary in Ridgefield you invited a Rabbi. Did that make you also into a Jєω ?

    One of the first and most basic criticisms of the Council comes from the psychoanalyst Alfred Lorenzer, “The Book-keepers’ Council” (for a long time this book could be found in the book-racks of our chapels in Germany). One may or may not care for psychoanalysis, but Lorenzer gives a marvelous description of what religion, Catholicism in particular, means for man. It is something that one picks up even before language or rational consciousness. He calls it a “system of symbols”. It has something to do with liturgy, with song, with certainty. It precedes and follows all awareness. One is, quite simply, Catholic. Whatever the Pope says, whatever happens, one is Catholic. The most unlikely people keep finding it is there inside them, and then suddenly they are proud of it. The two  Spiegel reporters that you called “rats” and whose reporting was by the way most helpful to the Society, are a case in point. The older one, Wensierski, is Catholic, a man who has gone along with all the errors and confusion of the last 40 years. He has written nasty articles criticizing the Church, but as a reporter he also got himself thrown out of communist East Germany because he supported resistance groups. A difficult man for sure, and stolid, but fully convinced of his own Catholicism, enthused by the Society church of St Nicolas du Chardonet in Paris, and ever concerned to convert his younger colleague who at that point parts company with his elder. Simply being Catholic, belonging to this inconceivable, fantastic, great, unique Church, way beyond all human imagining, constantly being pronounced dead yet arising joyfully once more to life, ever ready to pick one up again, to forgive, to be generous, where one is always back at home – what is more beautiful on the face of the earth ? So when I read writings of yours, and remember various things you have said, then I am afraid you have no share in its happiness. That is what I think a colleague meant who has been a Superior in the Society for many years and esteems you as much as ever, when he said, “Gentlemen, why has nobody got the gumption to say that in what he says, in the provocative way he says it, in the freelance way he crashes around inside the Society, Bishop Williamson is a liberal ?  Why indeed ?

    In your commentaries on the talks going on between the Society and the Curia you give the impression that the worst thing you can imagine is a re-union, a Catholic return to normal. When I read that, when cradle Catholics read that, we just do not understand. When it comes to living our religion, there is nothing we wish for more than to be able to live undisturbed like Catholics, and nothing makes us suffer so much as finding ourselves in a situation where our conscience, as enlightened by the centuries-old Magisterium, makes that impossible. Your very logic with regard to Rome is false, a vicious circle – “Because they are modernists, we cannot and may not talk with them.” Yet faith comes from hearing. Then can the Pope and the Curia never become Catholic, because nobody talks to them ?  What is the point of our praying and going on mission ?  Quite independently of your revolutionary attitude whereby, just because you are a bishop, you know it all, both what is Catholic and what is not, and how the Society should behave towards Rome, and forget the Superior General. Anyone would think the world turns
    around you. As I said, maybe the Pope was referring to this unbending narrow-mindedness. For indeed the relation to reality alone makes something true, and not because one wants it to be true. I do not think one can be Catholic if one does not grasp with all one’s senses what that means. This grasp you obviously do not have. I repeat, your sermons against love in Zaitzkofen and St Nicolas de Chardonnet are legendary. The verdict is pronounced in Goethe’s “Faust, Part One”: “Unless you feel it, you will not get it.”

    Our venerable Founder, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, fully embodied this Catholic way of being. How he would let loose, many an evening, against Cardinal Ratzinger !  Only to admit ruefully on the following morning that he had exaggerated, and then he would praise the Cardinal’s piety. But when did you yourself once admit that you were wrong ?  The Curia pushed its humiliating of the Archbishop beyond all limits, but he remained Catholic. That is what we hoped for from you.

    The Society is cast for the role of an outsider. That tempts us to grant a measure of sympathy to any other outsiders. I consider this is a trap. We are not truly outsiders. There are many others, romping around the Internet, who are truly outsiders. Ever since your interview of November 1, 2008, on Swedish TV, I have had plenty of opportunity whether I wanted to or not, to confront h0Ɩ0cαųst-deniers, or “Revisionists” as you call them. Goodness gracious, what miserable minds !  Precisely, not Catholic. When I think of the court case of Horst Mahler, supposedly converting because of you… That is pure Hegelianism, but certainly not Catholic. And then all the crazy ideas of your supposed friends, Butz, Faurisson and so on. Men neither nice nor Catholic. Be it Neo-nαzιsm, “Third Position”, Antisemitism, or any kind of extremism, one has the impression that it is all about finding excuses to avoid having to hold down a regular job. When it comes to slandering, I repeat, they are fast on the uptake, as happens on the Internet too. Unfortunately you were not able to resist the temptation to join in. Morally speaking that has always been sinful. One of the people slandered has, to my way of thinking, neatly summed up what kind of people are behind the slandering : “Uneducated, unbalanced, sɛҳuąƖly frustrated, male losers.” The one constant feature in the lives of such men is often their extremism. Yesterday they were tough British Nationalists opposed to North Irish Catholics, today they belong to the “Third Position”, tomorrow they will probably be followers of Islam. The solidarity between nαzιs and Islamists became clear at the h0Ɩ0cαųst-denying Conference in Teheran, and you too never tire of declaring that Western society, our own civilization, no longer deserves to exist. I find all that repulsive, but hardly surprising. Some time ago Hitler declared that National Socialism could not be understood without Wagner and Nietsche. But when it comes down to presenting such nonsense as though it were a religious duty to do so, then I step into the lists for the greater glory of God. I cannot and will not let the name of God be misused for such weak-mindedness. I have already written to you once that I certainly did not become a priest in order to preach hatred of Jєωs. Nor did I enter the Society to canonize Hitler. I am horrified to see you spreading around videos which justify the mass-murder by Hitler. And now you set up to be defending your honor ?  Just what honor ?  The honor of trampling on the historical truth ? Your Excellency, kindly defend the honor of the Society, the honor of Our Lord !

    I admit that in the past we have been too negligent in this respect. We kept quiet when we should have spoken out, we looked away, we practised a false tolerance. We should have contradicted you much sooner. We might have brought you to think again at a moment when you could still turn back. The situation with the supposed “excommunications”, each day’s worries, our concern with the problems in the Church and our respect for your rank all distracted us from recognizing and correcting our own weaknesses and shortcomings. In 2009 we were punished for it. Instead of a triumph after the lifting of the excommunications we were humbled and pilloried. I am not complaining: those whom God loves, he chastises. But I hope that we are learning from our mistakes. There can be no more false tolerance. We are no longer looking away. We are speaking up. We are no longer letting political sectarians enter the Society as parasites to heat up their little brew on our stove, on the grounds that they are not allowed to do it anywhere else. You cannot really be claiming that the Society and the General Superior must share and promote your nαzι ideas !

    The way to salvation is the truth. The Church was always generous in this respect, demanding the acceptance only of defined dogma. The Church leaves room for freedom. You are not so generous. You turn everything into a question of absolute truth. Well then, you are being measured by your own standard. You will not get around having to accept the truth as it really is, and you will have to take leave of your own fabricated version It is a difficult path to tread, because it leads to hurtful admissions, to turning off the path so far trodden, to a new beginning, involving the closing down of a previous life. As I sit here I pray and hope that you will nevertheless make the effort, and I promise you to help you on your way, but I cannot help sensing that, indignantly refusing to do so, you will distrust me, consider I am stupid or wicked or both, and not be able to see how far you have distanced yourself from what you are always invoking: the truth.

    I am not here making myself out to be higher than you. I do not want to judge, I want to save. The way you have developed causes me endless grief. On reading some novels one constantly wants to get involved in the story oneself, to shake up the leading character and cry out to him to wake up before it is too late !  He does not do so, and the tragedy plays itself out. Radetzky March by Joseph Roth is one such novel, centering on the fall of the Austrian monarchy. The hero is a tragic figure so charismatic, intelligent and attractive that despite all his negative qualities one cannot help falling under his spell, so that one is constantly crying out to him to wake up. But he never does, and so the novel ends in catastrophe.

    We have flown over Beijing and just passed Ulan Bator, so now we fly the length of Novosibirsk. The sun is setting to the west, it is a beautiful evening. I think back to our faithful in Japan and Korea, how their souls are thirsting for truth. And Ernst Hello comes into my mind : “There is only one tragedy, and that is that we are not saints.” Yet there you go, wanting us to talk about the length of chimneys in cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs. Goodness gracious !  And I am reminded of war rhetoric. And of how in the courtyard of Econe, after the Episcopal Consecrations, when journalists asked what should be done with enemies of the Church, you made clear gestures in front of the cameras filming to show that a machine-gun was the answer. Perhaps Cardinal Ratzinger as he then was also saw that. I do not know. But I do remember that on the way home a colleague expressed his concern about the future Bishop Williamson.

    He did not turn out well. The damage you have done to the Society and to the entire Church with your false political ideas is immense. However I am personally convinced that graver than all your political theories is your un-catholic pessimism, your defeatism in face of the crisis of the Faith and the collapse of Church life. A colleague in the USA summed up your “theology” as follows: Bishop Williamson says, “Grace builds on nature (that is perfectly Catholic). Now the nature of modern man is completely ruined and corrupted. So forget the supernatural and firstly restore nature.” I am under the impression that your pessimism in religion and your “waiting for Godot” attitude in politics stem from this under-estimation of the supernatural. Your Excellency, allow me to remind you that grace exercises a function of healing nature. It is a dangerous temptation in the face of the present crisis to seek after untried natural solutions, and to think that the world can be overcome by worldly means. Faith alone conquers the world, says the Apostle, and for Pius X lack of faith and ignorance are the problem of modern times, not the Jєωs !  That is what was so fascinating in Archbishop Lefebvre: he believed in love, and believed that the tried and true means of grace are sufficient to spread the Kingdom of Christ.

    All the above and much more as well came into my mind as I read your latest forecast of war. Maybe we should still “let the sparrows chirp”, as Don Bosco said, and concern ourselves with Christ and his Church, rather than busy ourselves with financial markets and chemical gas compounds. Do you not agree ?

    That is why I am writing to you. “He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

    God bless !  And Happy New Year !

    Yours in Our Lord,

    Fr. Niklaus Pfluger.

    Post-scriptum 1  --  text of a former English-speaking pupil of Bishop Williamson.

    What you wrote reminded me of your analysis of BW as a follower of Nietzsche. In my paper on BW I drew parallels between BW and Evola. I just read that Evola was heavily influenced by Nietzsche, which is very interesting. At the heart of this is a non-Christian answer to evils of modernity. Do you know a particular work of Nietzsche that resembles BW?

    As for BW’s Catholicism, I have often been tempted to say what you have. But I always limited myself to his written works. The problem with analyzing BW’s writings is that he is not a Thomist and does not use his writings to define his thought. BW uses language in a very post-modern fashion. He uses words to move the listener to a desired action as opposed to defining his ideology. This makes it very difficult to sit down and say “BW believes this or that” because BW seldom succinctly tells you his ultimate ideology.

    One easy test that can be applied to BW is to sit down with his seminary letters on one hand, and on the other hand pick any book written by Archbishop Lefebvre. The Archbishop will have constant references to “Our Lord Jesus Christ.” BW will have few, if any. This might sound trite, but I think this is a sign of a real problem. Without judging the BW’s internal forum, there is an appearance that he uses religion as a political tool. His recent and persistent actions support this conclusion.

    Post-scriptum 2  --  text of a German town Mayor.

    Allow me to make reference to Bishop Williamson. I know that it is not my business to judge. Take whatever I say as merely one opinion amongst many others :  the damage that Bishop Williamson has done to the Society of St Pius X, to the Church and to the Pope is enormous. Despite his great merits in the service of Tradition, to me personally it seems that to keep him in the Society is no longer to be endured. Even if on the Superior General’s orders Bishop Williamson lets go his extreme-right lawyer, having chosen him in the first place shows what he really thinks. If after the whole Swedish TV disaster his attitude is still to choose such a lawyer, his attitude is not going to change on the orders of the Superior General. On the contrary, he resembles somebody asleep who would appear to wake up, but whose inner attitude remains just as dangerous for Tradition as it was before. In weighing up the decision, can all his service to Tradition in the past be seen as merits that he could still gain for Tradition in the future ?  I would say, absolutely not. What service can Bishop Williamson still render Tradition ?  Where can he still be employed, and at what risk ?  What must happen first ?  He is unwelcome anywhere. With this inner attitude of the extreme right I do not think he can be tolerated inside the Society. The choice of an extreme right lawyer was no accident. Bishop Williamson is an intelligent man, and knew exactly what he was doing. The longer he is kept within the Society, the more he will pull the whole of Tradition over into the extreme right camp. Such a prospect is most painful for me when I consider the sacrifices made by middle-class families that want nothing to do with right-wing extremism, far from it !  Are you not ostracized enough as it is because of your Traditional way of thinking ?  You yourself say that families are often at the limit of what they can do. I am enclosing a local newspaper report and I can assure you that as town Mayor I am exposed to attack as much as ever. After this report I can count on having t undertake quite unnecessary defensive action. That Society Headquarters  have repudiated h0Ɩ0cαųst-denial is no more being reported in the media. I ask Headquarters to consider how much longer the faithful precisely in Germany can go on being associated with the extreme-right attitude of Bishop Williamson. What is the reason why Bishop Williamson is being kept on regardless?

    End quote from Fr. Niklaus Phluger, "First Assistant" to Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) Superior General Bernard Fellay.
    "In our time more than ever before, the greatest asset of the evil-disposed is the cowardice and weakness of good men, and all the vigour of Satan's reign is due to the easy-going weakness of Catholics." -St. Pius X

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    This is a very important letter that hollingsworth started, but Michael Hoffman already finished it, to repeat!
    "In our time more than ever before, the greatest asset of the evil-disposed is the cowardice and weakness of good men, and all the vigour of Satan's reign is due to the easy-going weakness of Catholics." -St. Pius X

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  • A very good letter from Fr. Pfluger that expresses what a lot of traditional Catholics have been thinking. When Bishop Williamson preaches an hour long "sermon" about 9/11 and the Jєωs at a confirmation Mass but doesn't mention the gifts of the Holy Ghost you know something is deeply wrong.

    Still waiting for those terrorist attacks at the Olympic Games.


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  • Waiting for those true "h0Ɩ0cαųst-denial" rebuttals, not fawning accordistas' praise of a compromised priest! Also, waiting for proof of +Williamson's "hatred of the Jєωs."
    "In our time more than ever before, the greatest asset of the evil-disposed is the cowardice and weakness of good men, and all the vigour of Satan's reign is due to the easy-going weakness of Catholics." -St. Pius X

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  • Unbelievable.  I am truly surprised and frankly a bit disappointed and confused at the intellectual and theological mediocrity of Fr Pfluger's letter.  I had long had suspicions regarding the apparent ineptitude of the Society in coming up with interesting and practical solutions to the real problems that we face today, but I do not like that these suspicions have now been confirmed.  I would have expected a more rigorous thinker, but if this is the sort of nonsensical liberal rhetoric that succeeds in Menzingen (which, coincidentally, sounds eerily familiar to the language of Ratzinger, Wojtyla, transcendental Thomists, and the rest of the neo-Modernists and Liberals), then the whole Neo-SSPX crisis makes far more sense to me than I ever imagined it would.  They are not-particularly-learned cultural liberals who are in over their heads.  As strange as it is to say so, it now seems just that simple (assuming the sophomoric work of Fr Pfluger can be taken as a fair representation of the prevailing mentality at Menzingen).

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    Unbelievable.  I am truly surprised and frankly a bit disappointed and confused at the intellectual and theological mediocrity of Fr Pfluger's letter.  I had long had suspicions regarding the apparent ineptitude of the Society in coming up with interesting and practical solutions to the real problems that we face today, but I do not like that these suspicions have now been confirmed.  I would have expected a more rigorous thinker, but if this is the sort of nonsensical liberal rhetoric that succeeds in Menzingen (which, coincidentally, sounds eerily familiar to the language of Ratzinger, Wojtyla, transcendental Thomists, and the rest of the neo-Modernists and Liberals), then the whole Neo-SSPX crisis makes far more sense to me than I ever imagined it would.  They are not-particularly-learned cultural liberals who are in over their heads.  As strange as it is to say so, it now seems just that simple (assuming the sophomoric work of Fr Pfluger can be taken as a fair representation of the prevailing mentality at Menzingen).


    Very well stated!!

    In laymen's terms: they are uncultured vultures.

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    A very good letter from Fr. Pfluger that expresses what a lot of traditional Catholics have been thinking. When Bishop Williamson preaches an hour long "sermon" about 9/11 and the Jєωs at a confirmation Mass but doesn't mention the gifts of the Holy Ghost you know something is deeply wrong.

    Still waiting for those terrorist attacks at the Olympic Games.



    It's worth noting that "Aragon" was banned by Gregorio Sarto over on IA for making posts that seemed like something someone of an indult mindset would make.

    He clearly doesn't belong here, either.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    Unbelievable.  I am truly surprised and frankly a bit disappointed and confused at the intellectual and theological mediocrity of Fr Pfluger's letter.  I had long had suspicions regarding the apparent ineptitude of the Society in coming up with interesting and practical solutions to the real problems that we face today, but I do not like that these suspicions have now been confirmed.  I would have expected a more rigorous thinker, but if this is the sort of nonsensical liberal rhetoric that succeeds in Menzingen (which, coincidentally, sounds eerily familiar to the language of Ratzinger, Wojtyla, transcendental Thomists, and the rest of the neo-Modernists and Liberals), then the whole Neo-SSPX crisis makes far more sense to me than I ever imagined it would.  They are not-particularly-learned cultural liberals who are in over their heads.  As strange as it is to say so, it now seems just that simple (assuming the sophomoric work of Fr Pfluger can be taken as a fair representation of the prevailing mentality at Menzingen).


    Indeed, Pfluger is not even above invoking Godwin's law.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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  • It should be noted that Hoffman's commentary/introduction to this Letter is truly outstanding!




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    A very good letter from Fr. Pfluger that expresses what a lot of traditional Catholics have been thinking. When Bishop Williamson preaches an hour long "sermon" about 9/11 and the Jєωs at a confirmation Mass but doesn't mention the gifts of the Holy Ghost you know something is deeply wrong.


    Quote from: Michael Hoffman
    "Traditional Catholic" defenders of Fellay's SSPX who are traducers of Bishop Williamson, have told this writer that secular history has nothing to do with the SSPX's mission. If that is the case, why was Bishop Williamson being forced both by the pope's Vatican Secretariat of State and Bishop Fellay to recant his doubts about the homicidal gas chamber allegations? If Bishop Williamson had doubted the number of people who died in the Black Hole of Calcutta in British India, or at Elmira Prison Camp in New York during the cινιℓ ωαr, or under Ariel Sharon's carpet-bombing of downtown Beirut, Lebanon in August of 1982, neither the Vatican nor Fellay would have uttered a word of censure or reproach. Yet when it comes to what J.-M. LePen rightly termed "a detail of history" -- the claims of Auschwitz "extermination gas chambers," Williamson must bow to the secular consensus, or be denied exercise of his episcopal office (according to the pope's Secretariat), and face expulsion from the SSPX ( by order of Fellay).

     Why the special solicitation for one detail of secular history above all others? The world's only "h0Ɩ0cαųst" (or 'Shoah' as Pope John Paul II started to term it in line with тαℓмυdic mystification), has become a false religion, a religion of Judaism for gentiles. It is a fiendishly sly marketing strategy for Judaizing the West and rendering Christ's Church Militant a pile of quivering jello.

    We have heard nothing from Bishop Fellay or Fr. Phluger comparable to the windage they have exhaled concerning the shoah-bizness, concerning the concerted movement led by multi-millionaire Hollywood movie director James Cameron to deny the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. The worldwide organized movement of Resurrection-denial, with its origins in the Israeli state, is not a subject of anxious concern for modern Catholic popes or "traditional Catholic" Bishop Fellay.

    What does passionately concern and engage them, is the rise of any movement that obstructs the march to replace Calvary with Auschwitz as the central ontological point of suffering in the history of the West. The use of "h0Ɩ0cαųst" as a brand and trademark of Judaism and the Israeli state leaves no intellectual, sociological or cultural room for any other h0Ɩ0cαųst. It eclipses, first, the h0Ɩ0cαųst on Calvary, and then every other h0Ɩ0cαųst throughout history including the Judaic-Communist h0Ɩ0cαųst of millions of Christians in Russia and Eastern Europe from 1917 onward.  



    But not according to Aragon & other like minded neo-trads amongst +Fellay's flock...
    The replacement of Calvary with Auschwitz has nothing to do with the Catholic Faith!



    The three great lies of the modern world: 911, The h0Ɩ0cαųst, & Evolution.
     These are all religious subjects because all facilitate, and set the stage, for the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr and the advent of the Anti-Christ.

     
    - +Richard Williamson; April, 2013; St Paul,MN

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  • The whole crux of the matter comes down to this:

    Fr Pfluger wants to be friends with the world, and be loved by it.

    And bishop Williamson impedes this desire.

    So Fr Pfluger rips him.

    But since when has it ever been a Catholic attitude ro desire friendship with the world?

    Well, since 1962, of course!
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    A task also to work out why you have never asked yourself the question whether your forecasting arises from objective analysis and not rather from subjective utopianism.


    I don't understand.  War is a punishment for sin.  Surely, then, horrible wars of a magnitude heretofore unseen are coming to us very soon.  Why would there be any conflict over this ?

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    To any of the people who have rejected your constant warnings of war and your crude political and economic theories, and who have criticized you for them – there are many such people, and some have even been offended -- have you ever apologized ?  Have you apologized to one single one ?  Would you ever be capable of saying, “I was wrong” ?


    Classic.

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    In fact that is a blatantly semitic way of thinking: to pin one’s own faults on a scapegoat, which bears the guilty for everything. That is what Hitler did. The Germans’ own defeat of November 9, 1918 produced a hatred for international Jєωry, which was responsible for all evil in the German nation and therefore had to be “fought openly and without mercy”.


    Oh, come on.  He can't honestly be making this argument.  Surely he's embarrassed that others can now read it.  Apparently Fr Pflüger's recommendation for the study of history is worthless if one cannot even understand it.

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    To which one smart reader replied, “The Bishop is showing off – “delicate mechanisms of world finance” -- as though he sees through the mechanisms of world finance and could point out their weaknesses.” You could not do that. No more can you see through the highly complex connections of politics, or the nαzιs’ mass-murder of Jєωs. You have an opinion, then you look around for a few unconnected details which somehow fit this opinion (for instance the “Leuchter Report”), and you hawk it all as the truth.


    I don't see why somebody has to be a genius to criticise the current ruling order.  Don't we have thousands of years of Catholic history and thought and precedent with which to make comparisons and give substance to any critiques of modern problems ?  Since when is it necessary to possess an intimate understanding of every theory or mechanism before being able to give criticism of its clear flaws or plainly damaging effects ?

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    Many of the faithful were disappointed that you had nothing spiritual to say, a few were impressed that you seemed to have the solution so fast. From that day on, if not sooner, my colleagues and I saw clearly that basically you are never looking for the historical truth, but only for what is true for you, what you want to be true.


    Oh please. :rolleyes:

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    You have, as I formulated it last year, an idealistic view of history, And at table in a priory, I said you are an idealist.


    He seems to be conflating two different senses of the word "idealist," the one being a reference to the philosophical system that currently dominates Europe and famously associated with Immanuel Kant, the other being a reference to one who is indefatigably committed to an ideal vision.

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    It is the same with the nαzιs’ extermination of Jєωs. Did you read the book of Pressac which we had sent to you ?  Of course not. Have you read the standard work on the subject, Hilberg’s “The Extermination of European Jєωry”?  Not either. Attorney Krah recommended to you at least once to ask David Irving, a recognized expert in archives and until recently your mentor, what the facts are. You would not listen. That is hardly surprising, given that in the meantime Irving is not calling in question the mass-murder of millions of innocent Jєωs, including by gassing. On a different tack he is upholding abstruse theories on the side, but he is not so blind as to deny the obvious.


    Pressac and Hillberg are famous for both admitting -- in courts of law -- their abject failure to find the necessary evidence to warrant their central argument, the acceptance of which, incidentally, is immensely beneficial to the enemies of the Church who were proven many times over to have been heavily involved in ushering in the Crisis in the Church, both at the Latrocinium and before and after.  Surely that is enough to rely on something besides the dubious category to which uninformed suburbanites default -- "a recognized expert."  Recognised by who ?  In what context has this recognition been given, and could there possibly be any ulterior interest in either the formulation of the expert's opinion or his recognition ?

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    But why go in for studying history ?


    He seems to have not finished this sentence.  It might more accurately have been written as such : "But why go in for studying history as found in the sources and authors approved by the modern university system, mass media, and the general philosophical tenor sustained within a consumer society mobilised into mass politics ?"

    I really don't understand liberals (I use that word in the strict philosophical sense).  They think of themselves as being so incredibly intelligent, and yet their operative premises -- the fuel for all of their smug sanctimony -- are demonstrably irrational (epistemological scepticism, for example; or naturalism and rationalism).

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    You know it all without having to study, because you insist on your idea of reality. Idealism, as I said.


    "Solipsism."  Solipsism, the word he seeks, is the logical conclusion to Kantian Idealism.

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    Nobody disputes that, but our Founder, Archbishop Lefebvre, gave us a clear standpoint from which to judge of history, politics, social doctrine and so on, and that is Jesus Christ himself, the Social Kingship of Christ. That is it. And no stupid ideological or idealistic theories.


    :sad: How ridiculous !  Where to begin ?!  I wonder if it occurs to him how incredibly irrational his line of reasoning is ?

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    You were in a discussion with my father. Mother was also present. You surely remember my mother, a quiet, reserved woman, a still water running deep, at opposite poles to my father. That evening the discussion between my father and you was heated. Mother had kept quiet all evening so it was quite unexpected when she suddenly said in her quiet and almost shy way, “Father, remember your own mother was also a woman.” End of discussion.


    I really don't understand Germans.  Is this typical ?  Is Fr Pflüger actually holding this up as some kind of profound exchange ?

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    Your scorn of women, your hatred of Jєωs, your lack of measure were always there, only we paid no attention. We were too busy defending the Faith, rescuing the Mass, battling with modernists in the Church, to pick up on these repulsive aspects of your behavior.


    I don't get it.  Why doesn't Fr Pflüger just join the FSSP or the ICK ?  He doesn't seem to have much of a grasp on the philosophy of being championed by the Popes, and instead seems to be very sentimental in his consideration of other peoples' feelings, conflating this sort of hand-holding pursuit of coöperation with the practical application of the infused virtue of divine charity.  

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    What would the Pope say if he knew how constantly you refuse to speak about the virtue of love ?  yet God is love, and we read in St Jerome’s Commentary for the Feast of St John Evangelist how at the end of St John’s long life all he would ever call for was love.


    He frankly sounds like Vox Clamantis from Fisheaters or else some nouvelle théologie initiate.

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    One of the first and most basic criticisms of the Council comes from the psychoanalyst Alfred Lorenzer, “The Book-keepers’ Council” (for a long time this book could be found in the book-racks of our chapels in Germany). One may or may not care for psychoanalysis, but Lorenzer gives a marvelous description of what religion, Catholicism in particular, means for man. It is something that one picks up even before language or rational consciousness. He calls it a “system of symbols”. It has something to do with liturgy, with song, with certainty. It precedes and follows all awareness. One is, quite simply, Catholic. Whatever the Pope says, whatever happens, one is Catholic.


    "Religion, whether natural or supernatural, must, like every other fact, admit of some explanation. But when Natural theology has been destroyed, the road to revelation closed through the rejection of the arguments of credibility, and all external revelation absolutely denied, it is clear that this explanation will be sought in vain outside man himself. It must, therefore, be looked for in man; and since religion is a form of life, the explanation must certainly be found in the life of man. Hence the principle of religious immanence is formulated. Moreover, the first actuation, so to say, of every vital phenomenon, and religion, as has been said, belongs to this category, is due to a certain necessity or impulsion; but it has its origin, speaking more particularly of life, in a movement of the heart, which movement is called a sentiment. Therefore, since God is the object of religion, we must conclude that faith, which is the basis and the foundation of all religion, consists in a sentiment which originates from a need of the divine. This need of the divine, which is experienced only in special and favourable circuмstances, cannot, of itself, appertain to the domain of consciousness; it is at first latent within the consciousness, or, to borrow a term from modern philosophy, in the subconsciousness, where also its roots lies hidden and undetected.

    Should anyone ask how it is that this need of the divine which man experiences within himself grows up into a religion, the Modernists reply thus: Science and history, they say, are confined within two limits, the one external, namely, the visible world, the other internal, which is consciousness. When one or other of these boundaries has been reached, there can be no further progress, for beyond is the unknowable. In presence of this unknowable, whether it is outside man and beyond the visible world of nature, or lies hidden within in the subconsciousness, the need of the divine, according to the principles of Fideism, excites in a soul with a propensity towards religion a certain special sentiment, without any previous advertence of the mind: and this sentiment possesses, implied within itself both as its own object and as its intrinsic cause, the reality of the divine, and in a way unites man with God. It is this sentiment to which Modernists give the name of faith, and this it is which they consider the beginning of religion." -- St Pius X, Pascendi Dominici Gregis

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    One of the people slandered has, to my way of thinking, neatly summed up what kind of people are behind the slandering : “Uneducated, unbalanced, sɛҳuąƖly frustrated, male losers.”


    :barf: "sɛҳuąƖly frustrated"... ?  "Male" (why specify ?)... ?  A priest who went through the Archbishop's seminary wrote this ?

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    The one constant feature in the lives of such men is often their extremism. Yesterday they were tough British Nationalists opposed to North Irish Catholics, today they belong to the “Third Position”, tomorrow they will probably be followers of Islam.


    This is just classic non-Catholic bourgeois nonsense that could have come from a morning meeting at the offices of Amnesty International or the US Department of Education.  He seems to believe in such concepts as "the True Believer" and "the Authoritarian Personality," identifying himself by contrast as a member of a club of spiritually-validated empathetic humanitarians.  Does anybody else have no stomach for this particular kind of Continental liberal sanctimony ?  It bears the psychological stamp of humanitarian liberal universalism and is reminiscent of the  phenomenologists' ethics based on universal sympathy for one's neighbour's struggle to embrace the human condition, etc.  Does it make anybody else sick ?

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    The solidarity between nαzιs and Islamists became clear at the h0Ɩ0cαųst-denying Conference in Teheran, and you too never tire of declaring that Western society, our own civilization, no longer deserves to exist.


    Hah !  A true liberal to the bone !  It's incredible that Fr Pflüger can publicly formulate opinions in this way (I assume this letter isn't an anomaly) without being torn apart by other priests.  Incredible, yes, but also a bit of a sad realisation for me.

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    We are no longer letting political sectarians enter the Society as parasites to heat up their little brew on our stove, on the grounds that they are not allowed to do it anywhere else. You cannot really be claiming that the Society and the General Superior must share and promote your nαzι ideas !


    Now, is Fr Pflüger Swiss German or a German from Germany ?  If the former, where was he so heavily brainwashed such that he cannot think clearly about reality ?  If the latter, then I wonder, how typical is this mindset over there ?

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    Bishop Williamson says, “Grace builds on nature (that is perfectly Catholic). Now the nature of modern man is completely ruined and corrupted. So forget the supernatural and firstly restore nature.” I am under the impression that your pessimism in religion and your “waiting for Godot” attitude in politics stem from this under-estimation of the supernatural.


    This sounds like Henri de Lubac and Hans Urs von Balthasar, or really any run-of-the-mill Lutheran who debases the natural order and instead radically relegates all ends in the world to the supernatural realm of grace, a grace that does not perfect and build upon the pre-existing theonomic structure found within nature but rather utterly transforms a disenchanted and quite mutable "natural" "order."  The neo-Modernists at Communio also despise natura pura, believing in stead in the Baconian-Newtonian conception of the natural order as a sort of radically contingent and lifeless place, somewhat arbitrary in its arrangement and therefore -- the conclusion follows -- not a sound basis for inductive reasoning about God's existence or anything else about Him.  I don't think most people -- even most Traditional Catholics -- realise that the rejection of natura pura by de Lubac and Ratzinger and the rest of the nouvelle théologie clique destroys natural theology and the arguments of credibility for the Church, instead converting faith necessarily into a private and subjective experience based on interior sentiment and personal encounters with diverse phenomena rather than a submission of the intellect to the objective Truth, Which is knowable to the intellect.  That is to say, Fr Pflüger here sounds strangely neo-Modernist.

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    Your Excellency, allow me to remind you that grace exercises a function of healing nature.


    In what way, Father; in what way ?

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    It is a dangerous temptation in the face of the present crisis to seek after untried natural solutions, and to think that the world can be overcome by worldly means.


    Huh ?  Tell that to Constantine the Great.  The secular arm is established by God with authority as the second sword of Christendom.  It has long been a valuable servant of the Vicar of Christ and will continue to be so until the end of time.  It is thus not "worldly" in the way that is alleged, nor are "politics," which is merely to say the "social life" of a given people, worldly in the way often alleged.  They serve a necessary and honourable function in God's order for the universe.  One is either a liberal or well onto the path towards liberalism if he cannot admit this.

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    Faith alone conquers the world, says the Apostle...


    Where does faith exist, and what does it conquer, if it is merely abstract rather than manifested and actualised in individual substances and ordered societies ?

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    ...and for Pius X lack of faith and ignorance are the problem of modern times...


    No kidding...

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    ...not the Jєωs !


    Really ?  The Jєωs, the adversaries of God and man until their conversion at the end of time, could not in the past and cannot currently have contributed to religious ignorance and a lack of faith ?  

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    That is what was so fascinating in Archbishop Lefebvre: he believed in love, and believed that the tried and true means of grace are sufficient to spread the Kingdom of Christ.


    If Fr Pflüger is a fair representation of the mind of Menzingen, the Society is far beyond the point of recovery unless Bishop Fellay and Co. are immediately removed from their positions and punished by a replacement Superior General.

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    A very good letter from Fr. Pfluger that expresses what a lot of traditional Catholics have been thinking.


    Don't you think you are exaggerating ?  Surely thinking is not involved.

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  • I know you had a lot more to say, PereJoseph, but there's one thing here...



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    In fact that is a blatantly semitic way of thinking: to pin one’s own faults on a scapegoat, which bears the guilty for everything. That is what Hitler did. The Germans’ own defeat of November 9, 1918 produced a hatred for international Jєωry, which was responsible for all evil in the German nation and therefore had to be “fought openly and without mercy”.


    Oh, come on.  He can't honestly be making this argument.  Surely he's embarrassed that others can now read it.  Apparently Fr Pflüger's recommendation for the study of history is worthless if one cannot even understand it.


    Maybe Ethelred could comment on this, but it seems to me that this one part you
    have bolded, above, is not the writing of Fr. Pfluger.  It is a different style than
    most of the rest of this letter.  

    It is my suspicion that the letter was run by Max Krah before Fr. Pfluger sent it
    off to +W, as would be expected under the circuмstances:  Krah is the SSPX
    lawyer and would be willing and likely to have a look over such a detailed
    letter at such a critical time as a year before the expulsion proceedings went
    into full swing;  and, if Krah had found something that in his opinion needed
    an adjustment, he would have likely jotted down some suggested language
    to append.  

    Now, if Krah had written that sentence, "The Germans' own defeat..." into the
    letter, I highly doubt that this lowbrow intellect of Fr. Pfluger could have coped
    with trying to adjust it to his own style, and therefore, he would have simply
    left it alone, as is, and that's why it's still there.

    This is to say, that Krah neither cared to attempt to make his words sound less
    educated and pointed so as to fit in with the rest of the letter, nor if he had tried
    could he have made it convincing, because his first talent is not writing.  He is
    not a novelist or a gifted author nor an editor, even, he is a lawyer.  And
    Fr. Pfluger is neither capable or intelligent enough to see the difference or do
    anything about it.  So you have two characters who can't fix it, nor are they
    likely to think it's something that needs fixing.  

    But this is just me shooting from the hip, and I'd appreciate it if Ethelred
    could weigh in on this, bringing some insight regarding Krah's writing style,
    which he has mentioned in other threads on CI already.

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    To which one smart reader replied, “The Bishop is showing off – “delicate mechanisms of world finance” -- as though he sees through the mechanisms of world finance and could point out their weaknesses.” You could not do that. No more can you see through the highly complex connections of politics, or the nαzιs’ mass-murder of Jєωs. You have an opinion, then you look around for a few unconnected details which somehow fit this opinion (for instance the “Leuchter Report”), and you hawk it all as the truth.


    I would expect that beginning with "No more can you see through..." is again
    a sentence where Fr. Pfluger imported at least something that Krah had
    likely "written in the margin" or else inserted to a word-docuмent on his laptop.
    For one, this is missing a word, has one out of order and has a wrong word, and
    it should not be a separate sentence, for it should say, "You could not do that, any
    more than you could see through the highly complex
    ..."

    There is a chance that something is lost in the translation, but I suspect that
    +W has been careful to render for us just what was said in the original so
    we can pick up our own impressions and clues based on what was written.

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    I don't see why somebody has to be a genius to criticise the current ruling order.  Don't we have thousands of years of Catholic history and thought and precedent with which to make comparisons and give substance to any critiques of modern problems ?  Since when is it necessary to possess an intimate understanding of every theory or mechanism before being able to give criticism of its clear flaws or plainly damaging effects ?


    Very true.  Fr. Pfluger sounds like a whiny spoiled child here, doing his best to
    attempt to insult his senior bishop into submission.  And doing a poor job of it.
    He wants his corner of the sand box -- no, the WHOLE sand box!  He wants to
    be on good terms with the world, the flesh and the devil, not necessarily in
    that order, so he is picking a fight, trying to criticize a man who has spoken out
    against all three.  His allegiance is obvious, for he cares not the consequence.

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    If Fr Pflüger is a fair representation of the mind of Menzingen, the Society is far beyond the point of recovery unless Bishop Fellay and Co. are immediately removed from their positions and punished by a replacement Superior General.


    The removal of the Menzingen-denizens might be effective, but I think a lot
    would depend on HOW they are removed, for all the capitulants who voted
    in this past Chapter would likely just vote in replacements who are of
    like mind as these clown-faces with poor writing skills.



    Hey, if +Fellay had tried to write this it would have taken 20 pages instead of 8.





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    Maybe Ethelred could comment on this, but it seems to me that
    this one part you have bolded, above, is not the writing of Fr.
    Pfluger.  It is a different style than most of the rest of this letter.




    Ethelred is already addressing this topic here.







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