Author Topic: Bishop Williamson - Confusion Now Hath Made His Masterpiece (Read 2353 times)

SoldierofCtK · « **on:** June 07, 2016, 07:39:24 PM »

I'm finally done with editing some talks His Excellency gave back in May in Danbury, CT. Bishop chose to title the talks after a line from the play Macbeth: Confusion now hath made his masterpiece. It was a wide range of topics covered; from the ages of the world, to the current crisis in the Church. I decided to post all 4 parts in one thread, to keep any discussion somewhat organized:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/41HcmAkhtFQ[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/3edsQlH2YzE[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/RXVHWuFe7kU[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/UZt88S7O4mc[/youtube]

I want to thank Bishop Williamson and Fr. Zendejas for organizing the event. It was a pleasure to attend.

+J.M.J.+

hollingsworth · « **Reply #1 on:** June 08, 2016, 01:17:02 AM »

Thanks for posting these videos. His Excellency, though he says and admits than he can really do nothing, is still head and shoulders above the bishops and the priests of the Society which expelled him. What an irony!

SoldierofCtK · « **Reply #2 on:** June 08, 2016, 05:19:57 PM »

Yes indeed! Humility is a great trait in a leader.

mw2016 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 08, 2016, 07:38:19 PM »

Quote from: SoldierofCtK

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/41HcmAkhtFQ[/youtube]

+J.M.J.+

At 26:40 Bp. Williamson says the Pope is not Catholic.

He then continues on to about 28:00 with a bit of a defense of sedevacantism, although he says he personally disagrees with it.

SoldierofCtK · « **Reply #4 on:** June 08, 2016, 08:04:07 PM »

I don't believe His Excellency was making a formal declaration about Pope Francis and I fail to see a defense of sedevacantism? Bishop Williamson was referring to the theory that Pope Benedict is still in the seat of St. Peter. Unless I missed something?

St Ignatius · « **Reply #5 on:** June 08, 2016, 09:38:20 PM »

Quote from: mw2016

At 26:40 Bp. Williamson says the Pope is not Catholic.

He then continues on to about 28:00 with a bit of a defense of sedevacantism, although he says he personally disagrees with it.

When are you "Sedes" going to give up, assuming you are one, that Bishop Williamson is not sedavacacantist? You guys are always combing through every word and trying to make it seem that he's making an argument for your position. Don't you all have enough qualified intellectuals to bat for you? What's so special about always wanting to put Bp Williamson into your arsenal? It seems to me something is lacking in y'all s convictions...

Wessex · « **Reply #6 on:** June 09, 2016, 04:06:34 PM »

Quote from: St Ignatius

Quote from: mw2016

At 26:40 Bp. Williamson says the Pope is not Catholic.

He then continues on to about 28:00 with a bit of a defense of sedevacantism, although he says he personally disagrees with it.

When are you "Sedes" going to give up, assuming you are one, that Bishop Williamson is not sedavacacantist? You guys are always combing through every word and trying to make it seem that he's making an argument for your position. Don't you all have enough qualified intellectuals to bat for you? What's so special about always wanting to put Bp Williamson into your arsenal? It seems to me something is lacking in y'all s convictions...

SVism does permeate the bishop's thinking without coming to a definite conclusion. The same can be said for all those trads that chose to operate outside the mainstream whether they like it or not. To disavow any such inclination and any risk of schism, folk should embrace the mainstream and start trusting the authority they recognise.

mw2016 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 09, 2016, 04:07:38 PM »

Quote from: St Ignatius

Quote from: mw2016

At 26:40 Bp. Williamson says the Pope is not Catholic.

He then continues on to about 28:00 with a bit of a defense of sedevacantism, although he says he personally disagrees with it.

When are you "Sedes" going to give up, assuming you are one, that Bishop Williamson is not sedavacacantist? You guys are always combing through every word and trying to make it seem that he's making an argument for your position. Don't you all have enough qualified intellectuals to bat for you? What's so special about always wanting to put Bp Williamson into your arsenal? It seems to me something is lacking in y'all s convictions...

Are you talking to me?? I'm not a sedevacantist!

I am merely mentioning one part of the talk.

You need to lighten up!

St Ignatius · « **Reply #8 on:** June 09, 2016, 09:26:22 PM »

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Quote from: St Ignatius
Quote from: mw2016

At 26:40 Bp. Williamson says the Pope is not Catholic.

He then continues on to about 28:00 with a bit of a defense of sedevacantism, although he says he personally disagrees with it.

When are you "Sedes" going to give up, assuming you are one, that Bishop Williamson is not sedavacacantist? You guys are always combing through every word and trying to make it seem that he's making an argument for your position. Don't you all have enough qualified intellectuals to bat for you? What's so special about always wanting to put Bp Williamson into your arsenal? It seems to me something is lacking in y'all s convictions...

Are you talking to me?? I'm not a sedevacantist!

I am merely mentioning one part of the talk.

You need to lighten up!

Sorry dude! Bad assumption on my part... but anyone who has been studying the Bishop for anytime and knows his adversaries , would not express such an observation. This statement would be typical of a sedevacantist.