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Bishop Williamson Answers 4 Questions
« on: May 23, 2021, 10:15:54 PM »
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    COMMENTS ELEISON DCCXXIII (May 22, 2021): FOUR difficulties

    A reader writes to us: "Excellency, could you please clarify four points where we do not agree with you, and which keep coming back in traditional Catholic circles?" - No problem, only that charity reigns!

    1 It is said that you support and promote the "Poem of the Man-God" by Maria Valtorta. However, this text contains serious errors, contrary to the Faith, and in addition to the matter of serious scandal.

    Indeed, I support and promote the “Poem of the Man-God” by Maria Valtorta (1897-1961). The reason is that I am convinced that this is a magnificent gift, made by Our Lord to our poor modern world, as if this Poem constituted, in a way, His particular response to electronics, in the cinema, on television, on the Internet, in all this technology which steals millions and millions of souls from God to precipitate them by fantasy in hell. The five or ten volumes in French translation of the original Italian version, present a complete picture of the life, death and resurrection of Our Lord, with details so realistic that they revive our sense of the reality of the Gospel. But the effect they produce on readers is not the main one. In fact, the "
    As for accusations of doctrinal errors or other scandalous content, they do not deserve to be taken seriously. With the assurance of a mountain goat dancing among the peaks, this Italian layman, obliged to keep her bed, danced among the heights of Trinitarian theology in a way that is very difficult to explain without divine inspiration. Regarding the "scandalous content", we will remember Titus I, 15: "For the pure, all is pure, but for the corrupt and the unbelieving, nothing is pure; their mind and their conscience are corrupt". Many of those who accuse the "Poem" of scandal are only condemning themselves. May they one day see it clearly!

    Note first that there could not be false Marian apparitions if the Devil did not have authentic ones to imitate. The whole is "to test the spirits to see if they are of God" (I Jn, IV, 1). Normally, it is incuмbent on Catholic shepherds (ie bishops) to carry out this task on behalf of Catholic sheep, as this is a delicate exercise. In addition, in performing this service, they should prefer to err on the side of caution rather than to go fast. But in our time where so many anomalies dominate, most bishops are modernists. How then can they undertake the Catholic work of testing spirits? How much' between them still believe in the Devil? This is why the Catholic sheep are now required to carry out a few checks themselves, not more than necessary, but at least a few. The real problem today is that there are too many souls who can no longer think that God can intervene, or who do not want to recognize the objective evidence that God provides in abundance when He wants it to be. We believe Him, for example in Garabandal or Akita.

    3 It is said that you encourage souls to attend the New Mass if they think they can benefit from it.

    In the abstract, the New Mass is an abomination. It is the central act of the cult of the new modernist religion. For this reason, Archbishop Lefebvre has established as a general rule not to attend. However, taken on a case-by-case basis, a New Ordo Mass is not automatically invalid. It may therefore be that in some particular cases it may be spiritually beneficial. But, in its essence, it remains a Trojan horse designed by those well-known enemies of God who want to destroy the Catholic Church from within. This abomination remains whenever it is celebrated and attended. It then injects into the soul of each participant the poison of a falsification of the relationships linking God and man.

    4 You are supposed to believe that Francis is an impostor who should not be named in the Canon of the Mass.
    As inadequate as Francis may be as Pope, I appoint him, as far as I am concerned, to the Canon of every Mass I celebrate, because the Catholic Church cannot survive without its Pope, and Francis is generally recognized. as such today. (The leader necessary in this sense for any human organization is the one who is generally recognized as the leader.)
     
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    The Church is in great confusion today -
    May true charity be our conclusion.
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    Re: Bishop Williamson Answers 4 Questions
    « Reply #1 on: May 23, 2021, 10:20:53 PM »
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  • Sorry for the extra "th"s.  I couldn't seem to edit them out when I tried to modify it afterwards...

    Anyhow...  4 questions that keep coming up here...  Bishop Williamsons opinions on them...

    Not sure I agree with anything he wrote, but at least we know what he thinks.   :popcorn:
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    Re: Bishop Williamson Answers 4 Questions
    « Reply #2 on: May 23, 2021, 10:31:49 PM »
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  • How about question #2  ?
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Bishop Williamson Answers 4 Questions
    « Reply #3 on: May 23, 2021, 10:37:48 PM »
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  • Hmm...  Apparently my phone copied it over weird...  🤔

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    ELEISON COMMENTS DCCXXIII (May 22, 2021) : FOUR CONCERNS


    A reader writes, “Your Excellency, could you please clarify four points of disagreement with yourself which seem to come up over and over again in Traditional Catholic circles.” No problem – by all means let people think for themselves as long as they agree with me !

    1 You are said to support and promote the “Poem of the Man-God” by Maria Valtorta, which has grievous errors contrary to the Faith, and much scandalous content.
    Certainly I support and promote this work of Maria Valtorta (1897-1961), because I am convinced that it is a great gift of Our Lord to our poor modern world, His special answer to the electronics, cinema, television and the Internet, which are sweeping millions and millions of souls away from God and down towards Hell. The five volumes in English translation, or ten volumes in the original Italian, present a complete picture of the life, death and resurrection of Our Lord in such realistic detail as to make the Gospels jump off the page, so to speak. This is not their effect on every reader, in fact many a serious Catholic is left indifferent by the “Poem”. On the other hand, from the “Poem’s” first publication in the 1950’s, it has produced enormous good fruit with an increase of the love and knowledge of God and with serious conversions all over the world. Numberless souls will owe to the “Poem” their eternal salvation.

    As for the accusations of doctrinal error and scandalous content, neither need be taken seriously. With the sureness of a mountain-goat dancing among mountain peaks, this bed-ridden Italian laywoman dances among the heights of Trinitarian theology in a manner hardly to be explained except by divine inspiration.
    As for the “scandalous content”, somebody needs to be reminded of Titus I, 15: “To the pure all things are pure, but to the corrupt and unbelieving nothing is pure; their very minds and consciences are corrupted.” Many who accuse the “Poem” of scandal will only be condemning themselves. May they see clear !

    2 You are said to support problematic unapproved Marian apparitions which support the Novus Ordo.
    Note firstly that there could be no false Marian apparitions if the Devil did not have some genuine ones to imitate. The whole thing is to “test the spirits to see whether they are of God” (I Jn, IV, 1). Now normally the Catholic shepherds (bishops) are appointed to do this testing for the Catholic sheep, because it can be a delicate task. Furthermore, in testing spirits, it is prudent for them to err on the side of caution. But when times are as abnormal as they are today, and most bishops are modernists, how can they begin to do the Catholic work of testing spirits ? How many of them still even believe in the Devil ? And so Catholic sheep today are bound to do some testing of their own, no more than necessary, but at least some. The real problem today is too many souls that can no longer think, or do not want to recognise the objective evidence that God provides in abundance when He wants to be believed, e.g. at Garabandal or Akita.

    3 You are said to encourage souls to attend the New Mass if they feel they will benefit from it.
    In the abstract the New Mass is an abomination, the central act of worship of the new modernist religion, which is why Archbishop Lefebvre laid down a general rule of complete non-attendance. But in the concrete any particular New Mass is not automatically invalid, in which case it may happen to be spiritually profitable, but essentially it remains a Trojan horse designed by well-known enemies of God to destroy the Catholic Church from within. This it does every time it is celebrated or attended, by injecting in every participant the poison of a falsified understanding of the relations between God and man.

    4 You are said to believe that Francis is an impostor who should not be named in the Canon of Mass.
    However inadequate Francis is as Pope, I personally name him in the Canon at every Mass I celebrate, because the Catholic Church cannot survive without its Pope, which he is generally recognised to be today. It is the generally recognised head who is the one thus necessary to an organisation.







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    The Church today is in a great confusion –
    May the need of charity be our prime conclusion













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    Re: Bishop Williamson Answers 4 Questions
    « Reply #4 on: May 23, 2021, 10:48:45 PM »
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  • As for the accusations of doctrinal error and scandalous content, neither need be taken seriously. With the sureness of a mountain-goat dancing among mountain peaks, this bed-ridden Italian laywoman dances among the heights of Trinitarian theology in a manner hardly to be explained except by divine inspiration.
    As for the “scandalous content”, somebody needs to be reminded of Titus I, 15: “To the pure all things are pure, but to the corrupt and unbelieving nothing is pure; their very minds and consciences are corrupted.” Many who accuse the “Poem” of scandal will only be condemning themselves. May they see clear !

    Please tell me that Bishop Williamson is in a coma and this is from a ghost-writer.
    Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment.


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    Re: Bishop Williamson Answers 4 Questions
    « Reply #5 on: May 23, 2021, 11:07:59 PM »
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  • i'd like to ask him about the Loch Ness monster and lake monsters in general and the dragons i've seen on YouTube flying over the remote mountains of China.

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    Re: Bishop Williamson Answers 4 Questions
    « Reply #6 on: May 23, 2021, 11:27:40 PM »
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  • Seems like so much gobble-de-gook to me.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    +RIP 2024

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    Re: Bishop Williamson Answers 4 Questions
    « Reply #7 on: May 24, 2021, 12:09:06 AM »
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  • Please tell me that Bishop Williamson is in a coma and this is from a ghost-writer.
    I really do wonder how His Excellency can promote this evil work, despite being objectively Catholic on so much else. As if the subjective Kantian chocolate, to use His Lordship’s example, is vomited forth the objective material, Valtorta, in order to make it somehow OK.
    I pray his HE will realize his error before he passes before the Judgement Seat. 
    Something IS rotten in the state of Denmark, when something foul is seen fair, in the filthy spiritual air.
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
    Nisi  tu Deus noster


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    Re: Bishop Williamson Answers 4 Questions
    « Reply #8 on: May 24, 2021, 12:42:12 AM »
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  • I really do wonder how His Excellency can promote this evil work, despite being objectively Catholic on so much else. As if the subjective Kantian chocolate, to use His Lordship’s example, is vomited forth the objective material, Valtorta, in order to make it somehow OK.
    I pray his HE will realize his error before he passes before the Judgement Seat.
    Something IS rotten in the state of Denmark, when something foul is seen fair, in the filthy spiritual air.
    Well said K. I fear +Williamson is all too human and, like many men, will throw a lifetime of effort away over something that shouldn't be given a second thought.
    :pray:
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    Re: Bishop Williamson Answers 4 Questions
    « Reply #9 on: May 24, 2021, 01:38:07 AM »
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  • The POEM is not for everybody.  It's for people like the Publican
    who sat in the back of the Temple asking God for forgiveness.

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    Re: Bishop Williamson Answers 4 Questions
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  • The POEM is not for everybody.  It's for people like the Publican
    who sat in the back of the Temple asking God for forgiveness.
    So those good folk above who disagree are not humble?
    "In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."


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    Re: Bishop Williamson Answers 4 Questions
    « Reply #11 on: May 24, 2021, 08:04:31 AM »
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  • Well said K. I fear +Williamson is all too human and, like many men, will throw a lifetime of effort away over something that shouldn't be given a second thought.
    :pray:



    Fratres, forgive him... he's British and went to Oxford.  

    BTW, I believe in Our Lady of Akita, despite the 1970, Japanese Diocese, that was obeying the Novus Ordo missae conversion.

    The reason is, Mother Mary's message was extremely severe.  Even more so than Fatima.  

    It was an obvious salvage attempt, for the souls of Japan and all of Asia


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Bishop Williamson Answers 4 Questions
    « Reply #12 on: May 24, 2021, 09:00:36 AM »
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  • Possibly Bishop Williamson had some type of significant PERSONAL revelations while reading Valtorta's works and cannot in his good conscience be negative about them. It's concerning, yet I haven't read them myself.

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    Re: Bishop Williamson Answers 4 Questions
    « Reply #13 on: May 24, 2021, 11:09:27 AM »
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  • So those good folk above who disagree are not humble?
    They may be humble, but they know it all, especially when it comes to the POEM.
    All those little picky things, taken out of context or things they don't agree with,
    because they know it all. 

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    Re: Bishop Williamson Answers 4 Questions
    « Reply #14 on: May 24, 2021, 11:51:30 AM »
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  • Fratres, forgive him... he's British and went to Oxford.  
    👍 :laugh1:
    Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment.