I don't really know what to think of Bp. Williamson.  It is true that H. E. opposed Bp. Fellay many times and many of his writings, sermons and conferences are very good.  But it is also true that he has done some things that make me think he is not being honest, that he could be an infiltrator in the resistance:

His recommendation to read Valtorta's book, which was disapproved by the Church en 1949 and then included in the Index in 1959.  Bp. Williamson has recommended this book at least two times.

See http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=11238

Many priests and faithful have seen in Bp. Williamson the natural leader for the resistance.  Thus, his comments and advices are taken very seriously.  Why not recommending to be proactive somehow?  Priests could (and should) warn the laity about what BXVI keeps doing, his errors and the impossibility of conciliating the modernist rome with the Tradition.  Priests could (and should) reread ABL's writings and sermons to be constantly reminded of the original SSPX's principles.

Time is against us.  An advice to the SSPX priests to lie low for the moment and wait is completely opposite to what it is necessary right now.  His advice to the SSPX laity to attend SSPX Masses for the time being, watching out for the moment while their faith is not threaten is out of context.  What is being said and done inside the Society threatens the faith.  It is true that some —and perhaps many— priests appose an agreement with rome, but many of them are afraid and do very little.  Thus, how the faithful will know their faith is in danger?

Poor 'Athanasius' doesn't want to accept that the vast bulk of priests and laity in Britain and Ireland are against the agreement and support Bishop Williamson.Two priests in Ireland are pro-agreement but bulk of faithful in their chapel are against the deal.

http://www.catholictruthscotland.com/blog/2012/09/society-of-saint-pius-x-news/

Southwell

Bishop Williamosn has entered into his dotage, like a second childhood. His Excellency’s behaviour, shall we say, is petty and childish, as has been that of many of the SSPX priests in the UK, who have followed his bad example by their partisan behaviour.

The priests have sent out confusing signals to the faithful here in the UK, showing their contempt for the Superior General by their sarcastic remarks and foot-stamping response to his forced action. It’s just like being back in the Modernist parishes where all the priests do their own thing and prefer their own will. I hope I’m wrong but I see the devil leading a few good men down the wrong road to formal schism with the Church by this pride and disobedience. This cult following of Bishop Williamson is greatly deluded and will end in disaster for those who are caught up in it.

Please pray for Bishop Richard Williamson, a noble prelate whose wisdom and zeal for the truth have inspired many.

On October 23, 2012, the good Bishop was cast out of the SSPX, where he had labored tirelessly for 36 years.

His continued membership in the SSPX would have made a premature union with Rome more difficult.

"I have loved justice and hated iniquity; therefore I die in exile." - Pope Gregory VII..."

I hope many are reading this statement at the end of your blog.

I think I missed it a few times at first myself.

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If you'd slow down, you would have seen it.

You're basically admitting how bad you are at taking in the whole situation before acting.

That message has been there for a while, but before that a very similar message supporting +W has been there for a LONG time.

If you could miss that, what else have you blown past?

It seems to me the difficulty with forums is we don't know each others background information and who they really are, and we can't ask anyone or vouch for each other.  Also, especially when your not used to posting or in a hurry, comments sometimes come out in fragments.

I have had doubts about certain people or situations posted here, as others have, but refrain from saying so because those messages usually get shot down pretty quick, and with a lot of anger.  I would rather hear reassurances than have the messengers shot down.  And, that is only my opinion, take it however you like.

Are you speaking of Truth as in a person, or in our Catholic Faith.

I wasn't talking about despair, I meant doubt.

Personally, I like Bishop Williamson, at my conditional Confirmation 20 years ago, he stated, in his sermon, if you ever see the Society go in the wrong direction, don't follow them.  Those words are blazed in our memories.  Also, he gives a very hard slap.

Are you speaking of Truth as in a person, or in our Catholic Faith.

In either case, truth is knowable.

You can investigate the people and names on here. We are all real people who have friends, family, and most of us have a chapel we attend.

If we all had names like Anonymous1543, Anonymous1230, etc. and used the TOR network, and never talked about ourselves personally -- then maybe you'd be right. Figuring out the truth would be extremely difficult/impossible.

But we're not THAT anonymous.

And almost none of us are so aloof we won't respond to a PM, e-mail, or phone call.

Quote from: Matthew

Quote from: Pablo

Please pray for Bishop Richard Williamson, a noble

prelate whose wisdom and zeal for the truth have inspired many.

On October 23, 2012, the good Bishop was cast out of the SSPX, where he had labored tirelessly for 36

years.

His continued membership in the SSPX would have made a premature union with Rome more difficult.

"I have loved justice and hated iniquity; therefore I die in exile." - Pope Gregory VII..."

I hope many are reading this statement at the end of your blog.

I think I missed it a few times at first myself.

*

If you'd slow down, you would have seen it.

You're basically admitting how bad you are at taking in the whole situation before acting.

That message has been there for a while, but before that a very similar message supporting +W has been

there for a LONG time.

If you could miss that, what else have you blown past?

Has Pablo read the open letter? It's doing the rounds in various languages.

"I have loved justice and hated iniquity; therefore I die in exile."
- Pope Gregory VII..."


For the record, Pope Gregory was quoting Scripture, and thereby giving
us a message that we would not understand by just reading the words he
wrote, but only by interpretation of the context and the source of his
words:

Which Scripture is it?

Well, that is not simply answered, for it occurs twice in Scripture, once in
the OT and then again in the NT where St. Paul is quoting the OT. So it is
not plagiarism, but rather the Apostle of the Gentiles teaching us how to
properly apply Scripture to learning about our religion.

"Thy throne, o God, is forever and ever : a scepter of justice is a scepter
of Thy kingdom.  Thou hast loved justice, and hated iniquity : therefore
God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy
fellows" (Heb. i. 9).

But St. Paul here quotes not only Ps. xliv.* 7-8, but also Ps. ii. 7, II Kgs.
vii. 14, Ps. xcvi. 7, Ps. ciii. 4, Ps. cx. 26, and Ps. cix. 1 - all in the last half
of Hebrews cap. i.  The summary of this chapter given by Dr. Challoner and
Dr. H.J. Ganss, is this: "God spoke of old by the prophets, but now by his
Son, who is incomparably greater than the angels."

Nor is Scripture the only reference for these words.  For Pope Gregory was
one of our recent popes (less than 200 years ago - the time span that Trent
held as the touchstone of less than that which constitutes antiquity) who
used the Canonized Traditional Latin Mass prayers exclusively, in which is
to be found quotations of Hebrews 1:9 or xliv. 8 in the Mass, such as for
the Feast of St. Lucy, Dec. 13th (Graduale), which is the same Scripture as
the Introit for the First Mass of Virgin Not a Martyr (Dilexisti), getting its
name from the first Latin word in the Introit:

Dilexisti judiciam et odisti iniquitatem : proptera unixit te Deus, Deus tuus,
oleo laetitiae prae consortibus tuis, (P.T. Alleluia, alleluia.) Ps. ibid 2.
Eructavit cor meum verbum bonum : dico ego opera mea Regi. v. Gloria
Patri.

This same Psalm is also used in the Masses For a Virgin Martyr, starting
with the Gradual for the First Mass, Loquebar, and then the Offertory for
the Second Mass, Me Expectaverunt (v. 15-16, 3 respectively).

What does Pope Gregory say, "Thou hast loved justice?"  No, he says "I
have loved justice."  And what of the rest: does Pope Gregory say,
"...therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness
above thy fellows?  No, he says, rather: "...therefore I die in exile."  

What can we adduce from this difference?  We are not prohibited from
saying that since the Pope borrowed from Scripture words that he would
apply to his own condition, the words he kept intact can be said to give
the same meaning to his statement that they give in the Bible; but in
regard to the other parts, the words he uses for his own condition can be
said to have a meaning not entirely unrelated to the words of the Bible
that they replace.  I.e., "...therefore I die in exile" can be thought
perhaps similarly to ...therefore God, my God, hath anointed me with
the oil of gladness above my fellows.  That is to say, Pope Gregory
is saying it without saying it, for the truth is one, and a good Pope would
not be quoting Scripture to teach the opposite of what the Bible would
have us believe.  And it is up to the reader to discern his message, if he
can, and if he cares to do so.  Many who are able to do so, choose not
to do it.  Is Pope Gregory complaining about his death in exile?  No, he
is rather rejoicing to be anointed with the oil of gladness above his
fellows, that is, to suffer this cross of dying in exile, which he loves, not
because he loves to suffer, but because it is the manifest will of God
that he endures this death in exile, and he therefore embraces it so as
to be in even closer union to Our Redeemer and Lord, Who suffered His
passion willingly to free us from our sins.

*Note: Depending on the Bible version that you're using, the Psalms
can be rather difficult to verify, because they had suffered a lot of
changes in numbering due to the Protestant Revolution.  I tried to
verify online using the so-called Douay-Rheims version at
drb.scripturetext.com and found that this verse, "7 Thou hast loved
justice, and hated iniquity: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee
with the oil of gladness above thy fellows," is showing up as Psalm
45, not Psalm 44. A quick check of Ps. 22 proves they have renumbered
it "Ps. 23," like all the Protestant bibles do.  So one must wonder how
many other inaccuracies there are at drb.scripturetext.com ?

-- But this discrepancy seems to have made it into the St. Andrew
Daily Missal as well, for it has Ps. xliv. 8 where my 1924 Cardinal Hays
Douay-Rheims Bible has Ps. xliv. 7 (not verse 8).  At least they got
the chapter number correct, no?