Why?  Not all sedevacantists are of the "dogmatic" variety.  +Sanborn et al. are the most vocal and dogmatic.  SSPV is more that it's their opinion and have no issues regarding communion with R&R priests.  There's a lady who attends SSPV chapel (one of their prominent members) who teaches at the school of an Independent Priest who's basically R&R, and they have no issues with it and even encourage it.  SSPV is more about issues regarding the validity of the NO Sacraments, annulments, etc. ... as per the beginnings of their group.  +Sanborn, Fr. Cekada, and +Dolan eventually split off into a more dogmatic strain.  Of course, then there are the Dimonds, the most dogmatic of them all, but other dogmatic sedevacantists like +Sanborn et al. consider them heretics for their position on EENS.  The Dimonds once wrote to me telling me I was a heretic simply because I didn't think someone was a heretic just for thinking that the V2 popes might be legitimate.

Yes, but the SSPVers are extreme dogmatic “anti-Thucites”, to the degree that you can’t even associate with anyone associated with those who derived their orders from Archbishop Thuc. I think this is actually worse than the dogmatic sedevacantists.

Yes, but the SSPVers are extreme dogmatic “anti-Thucites”, to the degree that you can’t even associate with anyone associated with those who derived their orders from Archbishop Thuc. I think this is actually worse than the dogmatic sedevacantists.

OK, but that's a separate issue.  That too is a question of the validity of the Sacraments (as was their initial break with SSPX) ... and, IMO, a lot of politics.  I don't agree with them about the Thuc question.

I knew you didn’t agree with them on the validity of the Thuc line. I do agree that it is politics, but it’s also a huge amount of pride and a lack of knowledge, willingly and unwillingly, in sacramental theology.

+Sanborn once related a story to me that then-Father Kelly stated once that they "could not concede the validity of the Thuc bishops, because people might then go to them."

How do you have so many connections??

Oh, I've been around, my friend.  I'm now 51 years old (well, will be in 5 days)  I spent several years in seminary.  Part of it is just coincidence.

I personally new +Williamson and went on quite a few long one-on-one walks with him.  +Williamson came to visit my family and eat dinner with us twice.

I was friends with Father Peter Scott and worked for him at the SSPX District Headquarters in KC during a couple summers.

I happened to be at STAS at the same time as Fathers Pfeiffer, Hewko, Chazal, etc.

I spent a couple years living with Father Ringrose in VA while in graduate school at The Catholic University of America.

I spent time studying for the priesthood with +Sanborn and regularly interacted with several priests associated with him, including Father Cekada.

I personally knew Bishops Petko, Webster, Fullham.  Petko and Fullham (may God have mercy on their souls) were seminarians there. And I was good friends with Neal Webster.  He invited me to his ordination to the Minor Orders by Thuc Bishop Hesson, and I attended.  I attended quite a few Pro-Life protests with him.

I knew all the SSJ seminarians:  Urrutigoity, Ensey, Roberts, Carey.

I was just there a few years before Matthew arrived on the scene.

I worked closely with Father Jenkins (in Parma, OH) and helped out in the studios with the "What Catholics Believe" program (before joining up with +Sanborn)

I personally knew +Santay and became friends with him before he was a priest.  I also knew +Selway (from when he was just a shy little kid).

Where I live, in the Cleveland/Akron area, we have an SSPV chapel, an SSPX chapel, a CMRI chapel, an Independent Chapel (SSPX-affiliated), many different flavors of Eastern Rites (several Ruthenian, several Ukrainian, several Maronite parishes).  I was also friends with a Maronite Bishop in Cleveland.

I just keep popping up everywhere  :)

I spent a bit of time at Father Giardina's monastery (exploring a vocation) back in the day.

Bishop Vida Elemer offered to ordain me to the priesthood after I parted ways with +Sanborn.

I studied Latin and Greek since my first year of High School, the got degrees in both at Loyola University in Chicago, studied three years of graduate-school Greek and Latin with a Patristic emphasis (at The Catholic University of America).  I went there because of their unique Patristic emphasis.  At that time I read thousands of pages from the Church Fathers in the original languages, including pretty much every word every written by St. Augustine.

I tested out of Latin at STAS, and taught a Latin I class there.  I also taught undergraduate Latin at The Catholic University during the Summers, one time having the son of Senator Phil Gramm as one of my students.

While at Catholic University, I worked as "Staff Editor" for their Fathers of the Church translation series.  I basically rewrote the entire translation of Pope St. Leo the Great's sermons because the submission was so bad.

Oh, I've been around, my friend.  I'm now 51 years old (well, will be in 5 days)  I spent several years in seminary.  Part of it is just coincidence.

I personally new +Williamson and went on quite a few long one-on-one walks with him.  +Williamson came to visit my family and eat dinner with us twice.

I was friends with Father Peter Scott and worked for him at the SSPX District Headquarters in KC during a couple summers.

I happened to be at STAS at the same time as Fathers Pfeiffer, Hewko, Chazal, etc.

I spent a couple years living with Father Ringrose in VA while in graduate school at The Catholic University of America.

I spent time studying for the priesthood with +Sanborn and regularly interacted with several priests associated with him, including Father Cekada.

I personally knew Bishops Petko, Webster, Fullham.  Petko and Fullham (may God have mercy on their souls) were seminarians there. And I was good friends with Neal Webster.  He invited me to his ordination to the Minor Orders by Thuc Bishop Hesson, and I attended.  I attended quite a few Pro-Life protests with him.

I knew all the SSJ seminarians:  Urrutigoity, Ensey, Roberts, Carey.

I was just there a few years before Matthew arrived on the scene.

I worked closely with Father Jenkins (in Parma, OH) and helped out in the studios with the "What Catholics Believe" program (before joining up with +Sanborn)

I personally knew +Santay and became friends with him before he was a priest.  I also knew +Selway (from when he was just a shy little kid).

Where I live, in the Cleveland/Akron area, we have an SSPV chapel, an SSPX chapel, a CMRI chapel, an Independent Chapel (SSPX-affiliated), many different flavors of Eastern Rites (several Ruthenian, several Ukrainian, several Maronite parishes).  I was also friends with a Maronite Bishop in Cleveland.

I just keep popping up everywhere  :)

I spent a bit of time at Father Giardina's monastery (exploring a vocation) back in the day.

Bishop Vida Elemer offered to ordain me to the priesthood after I parted ways with +Sanborn.

I studied Latin and Greek since my first year of High School, the got degrees in both at Loyola University in Chicago, studied three years of graduate-school Greek and Latin with a Patristic emphasis (at The Catholic University of America).  I went there because of their unique Patristic emphasis.  At that time I read thousands of pages from the Church Fathers in the original languages, including pretty much every word every written by St. Augustine.

I tested out of Latin at STAS, and taught a Latin I class there.  I also taught undergraduate Latin at The Catholic University during the Summers, one time having the son of Senator Phil Gramm as one of my students.

While at Catholic University, I worked as "Staff Editor" for their Fathers of the Church translation series.  I basically rewrote the entire translation of Pope St. Leo the Great's sermons because the submission was so bad.

Woah....

Extremely impressive!

I admit, I don’t know more than half of the people you mentioned (I’m a youngin). I’m sure other members here will appreciate what you wrote more than I.

I gotta ask. Why didn’t you become a priest? 

Woah....

Extremely impressive!

I admit, I don’t know more than half of the people you mentioned (I’m a youngin). I’m sure other members here will appreciate what you wrote more than I.

I gotta ask. Why didn’t you become a priest?

Long story, but at the end of the day it wasn't God's Will for me.