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Offline Mr G

Bishop Williamson 2018: sedevacantism and Bishop Faure's seminary
« on: June 03, 2019, 09:04:19 PM »
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Offline CatholicInAmerica

Re: Bishop Williamson 2018: sedevacantism and Bishop Faure's seminary
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2019, 09:16:51 PM »
The way he said that he thinks the pope is the pope because he “looks as if he is occupying the office of Peter” and that it is “sifficient enough” is a terrible reason IMO to be a sedeplenist. There is no theology whatsoever involved in that. 
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Offline ByzCat3000

Re: Bishop Williamson 2018: sedevacantism and Bishop Faure's seminary
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2019, 11:06:12 PM »
Quote from: CatholicInAmerica on June 03, 2019, 09:16:51 PM
The way he said that he thinks the pope is the pope because he “looks as if he is occupying the office of Peter” and that it is “sifficient enough” is a terrible reason IMO to be a sedeplenist. There is no theology whatsoever involved in that.
I think the underlying reasoning is he knows its not his call to make
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Bishop Williamson 2018: sedevacantism and Bishop Faure's seminary
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2019, 08:17:45 AM »
Quote from: CatholicInAmerica on June 03, 2019, 09:16:51 PM
The way he said that he thinks the pope is the pope because he “looks as if he is occupying the office of Peter” and that it is “sifficient enough” is a terrible reason IMO to be a sedeplenist. There is no theology whatsoever involved in that.

There is some theology there; it's the same privationism articulated by Father Chazal.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Bishop Williamson 2018: sedevacantism and Bishop Faure's seminary
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2019, 08:22:45 AM »
Quote from: ByzCat3000 on June 03, 2019, 11:06:12 PM
I think the underlying reasoning is he knows its not his call to make

Correct.  +Williamson is a sede-doubtist like myself.

Most R&R don't like to hear this, but +Williamson is correct when he asserts that this was +Lefebvre's position as well.

http://www.fathercekada.com/2012/09/04/pro-sedevacantism-quotes-from-abp-lefebvre/


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“It is possible we may be obliged to believe this pope is not pope. For twenty years Mgr de Castro Mayer and I preferred to wait…I think we are waiting for the famous meeting in Assisi, if God allows it.” (Talk, March 30 and April 18, 1986, published in The Angelus, July 1986)

“I don’t know if the time has come to say that the pope is a heretic (…) Perhaps after this famous meeting of Assisi, perhaps we must say that the pope is a heretic, is apostate. Now I don’t wish yet to say it formally and solemnly, but it seems at first sight that it is impossible for a pope to be formally and publicly heretical. (…) So it is possible we may be obliged to believe this pope is not pope.” (Talk, March 30 and April 18, 1986, text published in The Angelus, July 1986)
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