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Re: SAJM leaves the resistance??? (Apostles of Jesus and Mary)
« Reply #125 on: April 25, 2026, 11:00:29 AM »
Hey Theophanes! Thank you...
That is somewhat clearer and more "positive" for their resistance strategy.  So Fr. J. Pfeiffer, Fr Hewko subtly criticized, that is the context, kindda.
This is Google Translate: 

  "...In the last seven years of my apostolate, I have visited many other countries besides France and had the opportunity to meet or hear about priests who opposed, in 2012 (or later), this attempt at “reconciliation” by the SSPX, but then moved closer to sedevacantism, even asking (some of them) that sedevacantist bishops consecrate them. And they continued to call themselves the Resistance, some going so far as to say or call themselves: the only true resistance.

    So, if they ask me: do you distinguish yourself from these resisters? My answer is clear: yes, absolutely, and as much as Dom Lefebvre showed us by example in his life.
    Now, if you ask me if I would not collaborate with priests who opposed the reconciliation of the SSPX and who, therefore, suffered a lot, I will answer in an equally immediate and clear way that it would be an honor for me to collaborate in the apostolate with these dear confreres, models and guides in this battle, as long as they are faithful to the legacy that Dom Lefebvre left us...."

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Official French;
"...vous distinguez-vous de ces résistants-là ? Ma réponse est claire..."
My verbatim translation is: ...do you distinguish yourself from those resistants there?

Better grammar would  be : from those resistants,
..,so bingo! He is obviously rejecting public sedes vacantists - good for him  :)

Mr. G, we might need a Portuguese translator.  But yes, practically speaking, he must have written his original in English; maybe French? In the French, no mention of 'kind"
Dictionary instructs about the word "these" as some object close by, near; whereas "those" refers to distant things, people.

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Re: SAJM leaves the resistance??? (Apostles of Jesus and Mary)
« Reply #126 on: April 25, 2026, 11:21:04 AM »
Here is the official English translation: The Director's Word - Is the SAJM leaving the Resistance? - #05 - Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre Seminary scroll down to the PDF in English.


"So, if the question is asked: do you distinguish yourself from those kind of "Resistant people"? My answer is clear: yes, absolutely, and as much as Archbishop Lefebvre showed us by his example during his life."

What "Resistance people" is he talking about, read the paragraph above, which is  "In the last seven years of my apostolate, I have visited many countries other than France, and I have had the opportunity to meet or hear of priests who opposed this 2012 attempt (or later) by the SSPX, but only to later move toward sedevacantism, even going so far (for some) as to ask Sedevacantist bishops to consecrate them. And they continued to call themselves "Resistance," some even going so far as to call themselves "the only true resistance."


Did you think you were achieving something here? Helping things? Because you weren't. Stop and use your brain for one second. How does this substantially help anything? How is it changing the SUBSTANCE? It's not.

Because the whole silliness of this affair started by Fr. Brocard (but really by certain others -I know who you are don't worry) is that it is changing the definition of what the resistance is. 

They say that you can't be a good Catholic priest if you are not in a structure, not saying the 62 Mass, and firmly rejecting sedevacantism. Fr. Brocard is cleverly trying to hedge his bets here if you read the text even more carefully. He is trying to make out that MAYBE he is resisting truly and others are not. But only weakly. Because he doesn't want to turn off people who like having used the term, and are afraid of the inevitable consequences of the break Fr. Brocard is making. But at the same time for those who never liked the term resistance (Mostly french trads), and I will say this again, those WHO NEVER REALLY LIKED BISHOP WILLIAMSON, and were just tolerating him, he wants for those people to be seen to be rejecting the term. 

Ironically while Matthew was blasting me out of it, this is actually the very thing he is against! It is precisely the whole "You're not Catholic if you do X and Y". And I AGREE WITH MATTHEW on this. It's ridiculous. Whats hard though for many of us to come to accept is the reality of what is happening. So soon after Bishop Williamsons death, and especially because many of us know priests in the SAJM. Just like we do in the SSPX and indulters and Thuc line. It's sad always to see people become sectarian. 



Re: SAJM leaves the resistance??? (Apostles of Jesus and Mary)
« Reply #127 on: April 25, 2026, 11:32:00 AM »
Also try to remember that Fr. is also being careful to avoid being seen to attack four of the seven resistance Bishops directly.

They say the pre 55 (Bishop Morgan does say it. ) and of course are not in structures.