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Offline Venantius0518

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Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
« Reply #300 on: August 14, 2020, 04:32:19 PM »
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  • Also, please send us the reference in which Fr. Ripperger mentions about grunting being one of the signs of possession.
    Sorry, no proof for you.  Was an oral conversation with him.


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #301 on: August 14, 2020, 04:33:21 PM »
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  • It's been so long since I heard a Fr. Pfeiffer sermon, I'd forgotten about that grunting!  I always found it exceedingly annoying.  I had wondered if it was some sort of speech defect.  
    His mother said it started in seminary but has gotten progressively worse the last decade or so.


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #302 on: August 14, 2020, 05:19:15 PM »
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  • It could actually be a mild version of Tourette's.  He has both motor and vocal tics.  In addition to the grunting, he does this thing with his neck and his face.  It's only in about 10-15% of Tourette's cases that there are profanities involved (which is the popular perception)

    from a site online about Tourette's:


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    Motor Tics
    Motor tics are movements. Simple motor tics include but are not limited to: eye blinking, facial grimacing, jaw movements, head bobbing/jerking, shoulder shrugging, neck stretching, and arm jerking. Complex motor tics involve multiple muscle groups or combinations of movements and tend to be slower and more purposeful in appearance,(e.g., hopping, twirling, jumping).
     
    Vocal/Phonic Tics
    Vocal (phonic) tics produce a sound. Simple vocal tics include but are not limited to sniffing, throat clearing, grunting, hooting, and shouting. Complex vocal tics are words or phrases that may or may not be recognizable but that consistently occur out of context. In 10-15% of cases, the words may be inappropriate (i.e., swear words, ethnic slurs, or other socially unacceptable words or phrases). This type of vocal tic, called coprolalia, is often portrayed or mocked in the media as a common symptom of TS.

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #303 on: August 14, 2020, 05:22:28 PM »
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  • I agree with those who hypothesize that Tourettes is related to magnesium deficiency.

    I can testify AS FACT that the diet at STAS during the time he and I were there ... was absolutely ATROCIOUS.  Seminarians look ghostly pale and emaciated, malnourished ... and not from fasting.

    I have a daughter (now 17) who developed some bad facial/neck tics when she was about 11.  We gave her magnesium supplements, and it cleared up entirely within a few weeks.

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #304 on: August 14, 2020, 05:26:19 PM »
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  • Also, Fr. P's weight issues can also be related, ironically, to malnourishment.  When the body is missing some key nutrients, it compensates by trying to eat more ... but is unable to satisfy its needs.

    Some people cannot metabolize dietary magnesium well, so there are magnesium oils you can run on that get absorbed through the skin.

    [url=https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004NHN9OA/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B004NHN9OA&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20 do a search on Amazon for "magnesium oil".


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #305 on: August 14, 2020, 05:29:39 PM »
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  • Sorry, no proof for you.  Was an oral conversation with him.
    Was Fr. Ripperger speaking of Fr. Pfeiffer specifically, having heard him?  Or was he speaking in general about grunting being part of possession? 

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #306 on: August 14, 2020, 05:30:00 PM »
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  • His mother said it started in seminary but has gotten progressively worse the last decade or so.
    Thanks.  That is interesting. 

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #307 on: August 14, 2020, 05:47:36 PM »
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  • Was Fr. Ripperger speaking of Fr. Pfeiffer specifically, having heard him?  Or was he speaking in general about grunting being part of possession?
    He was speaking specifically about Fr. Pfeiffer, having heard him.


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #308 on: August 14, 2020, 08:14:44 PM »
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  • I get the impression people believe the opinion attributed to Fr. Ripperger. Why?

    Isn't it strange that someone would jump to diagnose possession based on verbal tics he has supposedly had since youth?

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #309 on: August 14, 2020, 08:51:30 PM »
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  • During his time in OLMC, Fr. Hewko developed a distracting verbal habit of constantly clearing his throat.  Maybe it’s the water in Boston, or PTM cursed the well?  I believe he may have put things in or said spells over food.  He’s constantly in the kitchen, opening refrigerators, freezer, cabinets, the oven, microwave.  He insists upon supervising other’s cooking and tastes Fr.’s food.  Anytime I’ve been there, Pablo insisted upon giving me food, getting me to taste foods, or putting food in my car so I don’t have to stop in restaurants as if I couldn’t go for an hour without stopping in a restaurant!  If I said no, he’d sulk and pout like a six year old little girl.  It was just plain creepy.  
    As for Fr. Pfeiffer’s tics or whatever they are, they’re very noticeable when he’s dog-tired, which is most of the time.  His daily routine or ‘rule of life’ is non-existent.  That is the cause of his weight gain, so far as I can see.  Overweight does run in his family.  I’ve not seen him in years, but his father was quite heavy.  Mrs. Pfeiffer is the opposite, thin as a rail!  Fr. Joe must take after his father and Fr. Tim after his mother.  Pablo is a pretty pudgy Mexican.  
    As for this Bishop Pfeiffer nonsense, I don’t know if it’s valid, don’t have the ability or inclination to learn.  I do know it’s ego and presumption, not blessed by God.  He has no authority other than himself, which makes him essentially a Protestant, grunting or otherwise.
    I can’t understand why anyone would think he will receive a good priestly formation.  

    P.S. People believe Fr. Ripperger because he leads a holy life and offers Mass reverently.  

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #310 on: August 14, 2020, 09:28:13 PM »
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  • I get the impression people believe the opinion attributed to Fr. Ripperger. Why?

    Isn't it strange that someone would jump to diagnose possession based on verbal tics he has supposedly had since youth?
    Fr. Ripperger is a trained exorcist, and I don't think anyone has said fr. Pfeiffer has had this problem since his youth... 


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #311 on: August 14, 2020, 09:35:05 PM »
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  • During his time in OLMC, Fr. Hewko developed a distracting verbal habit of constantly clearing his throat.  Maybe it’s the water in Boston, or PTM cursed the well?  I believe he may have put things in or said spells over food.  He’s constantly in the kitchen, opening refrigerators, freezer, cabinets, the oven, microwave.  He insists upon supervising other’s cooking and tastes Fr.’s food.  Anytime I’ve been there, Pablo insisted upon giving me food, getting me to taste foods, or putting food in my car so I don’t have to stop in restaurants as if I couldn’t go for an hour without stopping in a restaurant!  If I said no, he’d sulk and pout like a six year old little girl.  It was just plain creepy.  
    As for Fr. Pfeiffer’s tics or whatever they are, they’re very noticeable when he’s dog-tired, which is most of the time.  His daily routine or ‘rule of life’ is non-existent.  That is the cause of his weight gain, so far as I can see.  Overweight does run in his family.  I’ve not seen him in years, but his father was quite heavy.  Mrs. Pfeiffer is the opposite, thin as a rail!  Fr. Joe must take after his father and Fr. Tim after his mother.  Pablo is a pretty pudgy Mexican.  
    As for this Bishop Pfeiffer nonsense, I don’t know if it’s valid, don’t have the ability or inclination to learn.  I do know it’s ego and presumption, not blessed by God.  He has no authority other than himself, which makes him essentially a Protestant, grunting or otherwise.
    I can’t understand why anyone would think he will receive a good priestly formation.  

    P.S. People believe Fr. Ripperger because he leads a holy life and offers Mass reverently.  
    I never noticed fr. Hewko's throat clearing.
    PTM is all about control, of any kind, of everyone he can.
    As for Fr. Pfeiffer being a bishop, that is for him to prove it was done correctly the second time, because it sure wasn't right the first time.  
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    Fr. Ripperger is also a trained exorcist.

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #312 on: August 14, 2020, 09:49:35 PM »
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  • I get the impression people believe the opinion attributed to Fr. Ripperger. Why?

    Isn't it strange that someone would jump to diagnose possession based on verbal tics he has supposedly had since youth?
    I reviewed the thread, and I didn't see any posts that indicated "people believe the opinion attributed to Fr. Ripperger."  I asked for a clarification of said opinion, someone else asked for proof, several of us mentioned how we thought it was some sort of "nervous tic", and then it was hypothesized that it could be Tourettes. Even Venantius said, "according to Fr. Ripperger" and "I am certain of obsession and possibly possession."  i.e. He isn't necessarily certain it's possession, and doesn't necessarily get his opinion regarding possible possession solely from Fr. Ripperger.  


    Just because people ask or comment on something doesn't mean they've concluded that the hypothesis is certainly correct.  I find it interesting, but make no definite conclusions myself.  

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #313 on: August 14, 2020, 10:27:31 PM »
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  • I get the impression people believe the opinion attributed to Fr. Ripperger. Why?

    Isn't it strange that someone would jump to diagnose possession based on verbal tics he has supposedly had since youth?
    That’s a good point.  

    Could we call Father Ripperger Catholic Resistance?  

    Does he ever rhetorically slam Francis?

    Who can we really trust nowadays?

    Father Ripperger lectures on demons, generational spirits and the occult surpasses even Fr. Malachi Martin.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #314 on: August 14, 2020, 11:08:54 PM »
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  • I reviewed the thread, and I didn't see any posts that indicated "people believe the opinion attributed to Fr. Ripperger."
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    Just because people ask or comment on something doesn't mean they've concluded that the hypothesis is certainly correct.  I find it interesting, but make no definite conclusions myself.  
    What I don't see is people disagreeing with the hypothesis. Silence is a form of consent, giving the impression that most people agree with the hypothesis.

    Fr. Pfeiffer has several issues. His sloppy liturgy doesn't reflect well on him and suggests poor discipline. He looks very sleep-deprived to me, which could either cause or be caused by the overweight. His agitation and the way he stumbles through words are like people I know hopped up on caffeine. He probably has a poor diet, likely eating fast food when traveling.

    But jumping to "possible" possession based on some long-standing tic strikes me as nutty.

    He was a priest by 2002. If he had these tics in the seminary, he's had them since 25 years ago - when he was a young man.