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Offline Mithrandylan

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Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
« Reply #210 on: August 01, 2020, 07:45:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Stanley N on August 01, 2020, 06:04:56 PM
    He's a fake Arch-bishop, and perhaps thinks that gives him some power over fake just-bishops.
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    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #211 on: August 02, 2020, 08:56:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on August 01, 2020, 08:37:56 AM
    OK, so I just now had a chance to listen to his sermon.

    Did he REALLY refer to the "Holy Papacy of Francis"?

    Also, when he started talking about repeating the essential form afterward, he stuttered very badly, to the point of sounding like porky pig (in those old cartoons).  He was fairly fluent until he got that point and then started stuttering badly.  That suggests to me that he's not being totally honest.  I doubt very much that they noticed during the ceremony that it was a problem, since if they had, they would have had Bishop Webster repeat it right away.  He implies that this was corrected immediately after the ceremony.  I doubt it.  They probably just became aware of the problem after this thread and the Novus Ordo Watch post.

    Without a video, I don't buy it.
    Here, here.
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    Offline Venantius0518

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #212 on: August 03, 2020, 07:53:11 AM »
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    • Olmc records and posts everything.
    Why is it the one thing they NEED to post, the conditional consecration, they don't?
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    I smell foul play.
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #213 on: August 03, 2020, 08:49:04 AM »
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    • This sermon is regarding the consecration of Fr.(Bp.) Joe Pfeiffer. Fr. Chazal clearly states his take on how the cosecration went. The consecration creates a question of validity. The line that Fr.(Bp.) Joe Pfeiffer is creating could be a noxious line. Dangerous, POISONOUS!!The consecration is a question of validity.By the looks of it, Fr.(Bp.) Joe Pfeiffer has officially cut the line between him and the late Archbishop Lefebvre. Please watch the video. 

     
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #214 on: August 03, 2020, 10:42:13 AM »
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    • Fr. Chazal is right.  Nobody but the ‘inner circle’ of Pfeifferville will place any trust in him, in the sacraments, the masses.  Who is the inner circle?  His parents, Pablo the demoniac, the widow lady with the kids across the street, the ‘seminarians,’ a few local hangers-on, the occasional odd-balls who wander in and out. The only thing he can do now is to continue the charade until God or circuмstances force a complete shutdown, get conditionally and publicly reconsecrated by a valid bishop and work under him, go all in by consecrating more bishops, have a conclave, and become Pope Joe I.  I feel very sorry for his parents and Fr. Tim who is likely banned from the premises (by the resident warlock) AND visiting Fr. Joe (by the SSPX).  
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #215 on: August 03, 2020, 10:47:39 AM »
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    • Quote from: Venantius0518 on August 02, 2020, 08:56:30 PM
    Here, here.

    Yes, Father Chazal said the same thing, that we can't simply take his word for it.
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #216 on: August 03, 2020, 05:40:46 PM »
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    • Years ago when Arshbichop Ambrose said those false Masses at Boston with their idolatry of unconsecrated bread from unconsecrated hands, all of those priests who let it happen were guilty. The guilt will follow them to their graves and will keep gathering volume and momentum, particularly in Pfeiffer's case. Pablo is only their to ensure that there are no diversions. If you can't sense the stench of Hell from these men by now, you probably never will.
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    Offline Venantius0518

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #217 on: August 03, 2020, 05:50:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: Croixalist on August 03, 2020, 05:40:46 PM
    Years ago when Arshbichop Ambrose said those false Masses at Boston with their idolatry of unconsecrated bread from unconsecrated hands, all of those priests who let it happen were guilty. The guilt will follow them to their graves and will keep gathering volume and momentum, particularly in Pfeiffer's case. Pablo is only their to ensure that there are no diversions. If you can't sense the stench of Hell from these men by now, you probably never will.
    I can't believe I am agreeing with you, again.  
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #218 on: August 03, 2020, 06:08:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Venantius0518 on August 03, 2020, 05:50:26 PM
    I can't believe I am agreeing with you, again.  

    :laugh1: :confused:

    Since you keep making a point to say this, might I ask which subject(s) do you vehemently disagree with me over? You only started posting a short while ago. I tend to take long breaks. I don't have a clue who you are and what I'm supposed to be so wrong about. Enlighten me!

    Choose a category:
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    -Malachi Martin
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    -Taylor Marshall

    Or more! PM me if you want. If you're gonna comment like I'm some fringe lunatic, I think I ought to know why.

    Thanks!
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #219 on: August 03, 2020, 06:34:37 PM »
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    • Oh, and one more... How could I forget to include Voris???

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #220 on: August 04, 2020, 10:46:33 AM »
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    • The conditional consecration was videotaped.
    OLMC needs to release it to end the question of the validity of the consecration.
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    Then, what is this I hear about Webster's ordination being in question?  
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    Does the consecration supersede the ordination? 
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #221 on: August 04, 2020, 11:00:43 AM »
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    • Quote from: Venantius0518 on August 04, 2020, 10:46:33 AM
    The conditional consecration was videotaped.
    OLMC needs to release it to end the question of the validity of the consecration.

    Agreed.
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #222 on: August 04, 2020, 12:13:09 PM »
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    • An interesting piece of trivia in this matter is that Neil Webster attended the Young Adult Gathering (YAG) in Estes Park, Colorado as a layman 1999. The event was hosted by Frs. Joseph Pfeiffer and Kenneth Novak. I was there. A few days ago, I pulled out my YAG yearbook that was put out after the event and confirmed that it was indeed the same individual that "consecrated" +P. 
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #223 on: August 04, 2020, 12:25:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: brianhope on August 04, 2020, 12:13:09 PM
    An interesting piece of trivia in this matter is that Neil Webster attended the Young Adult Gathering (YAG) in Estes Park, Colorado as a layman 1999. The event was hosted by Frs. Joseph Pfeiffer and Kenneth Novak. I was there. A few days ago, I pulled out my YAG yearbook that was put out after the event and confirmed that it was indeed the same individual that "consecrated" +P.
    Here's a photo from said Young Adult Gathering. Most of the photos of the attendees were taken in groups of three:
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #224 on: August 04, 2020, 12:54:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Venantius0518 on August 04, 2020, 10:46:33 AM
    The conditional consecration was videotaped.
    OLMC needs to release it to end the question of the validity of the consecration.
    Perhaps the conditional consecration was also botched so they don't want to release another video, if it really does exist.  Frankly, this is the only reason I can imagine they would not have already released the video.
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