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Offline Matthew

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Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2020, 09:20:03 AM »
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  • Remember a couple years ago when Fr. Hewko left, and I made a prediction?

    I said that in the NEAR future Fr. Pfeiffer will either have to

    A) repent, apologize to Bp. Williamson and humbly join the real Resistance
    B) Keep the status-quo and watch his seminary dry up and die as he runs out of funds and doesn't have the priests to bring in $$$
    C) double-down on the insanity, turn up the crazy to 11, do something drastic.

    Sure enough, Fr. Pfeiffer went with C. I suspected he would.
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #16 on: July 30, 2020, 09:22:54 AM »
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  • Sean, I updated the OP.

    My wife isn't as good at things like taking screenshots, so I took one and cropped it nice. I added it to the OP.

    Here it is, for those who can't be bothered to scroll up to the OP.
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    Offline SeanJohnson

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #17 on: July 30, 2020, 09:28:18 AM »
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  • I can’t wait to see the video :popcorn:

    :facepalm:
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #18 on: July 30, 2020, 09:33:02 AM »
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    It is my understanding that "Bishop" Webster is a sedevacantist and a Feeneyite.
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    C) double-down on the insanity, turn up the crazy to 11, do something drastic.
    So, Fr Pfeiffer, one of the most outspoken, anti-feeneyite, if-you're-not-3-baptisms-you're-a-heretic priests i've ever heard of, is consecrated by (in his view) a feeneyite heretic.  Hahaha.  You can't make this stuff up.

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #19 on: July 30, 2020, 09:33:46 AM »
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  • As Bishop William used to say in his seminary lectures:


    "Remind you of something... naturally?"


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #20 on: July 30, 2020, 09:47:06 AM »
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  • I first saw this post from my phone this morning, and now looking at it from PC, the man to the left definitely looks like Neal Webster.
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    I am surprised that Fr. Pfeiffer would resort to Webster's services, since he (Pfeiffer) is militantly anti-Feeneyite (though for perspective, there is nothing that Pfeiffer is against that he isn't militantly against), and the only reason people know Webster's name is that he's the only traditional bishop on record who denies baptism of desire. 
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    I guess perhaps he (Pfeiffer) realized that his choices were between a doubtfully ordained liar and schismatic (Moran), any number of obscure sede bishops, MBA-grad Old-Catholic 'cardinals' (Rutherford Johnson), and a mild and infirm Feeneyite.  This sounds like a Coen brothers movie.
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    I personally labor under doubts about the validity of Webster's orders.  The docuмentation of these orders is around, and it goes through quite a few Palmarian clerics before 'emerging' out of that schismatic sect.  Some of the men along that line of orders later sought conditional ordinations/consecrations.  Plus, the Palmarians changed the rite of mass, which has always made me uneasy because it raises legitimate questions about whether or not they changed other rites (I have tried to find out specifically if they changed the rites of orders and to no avail; some people claim they have, but I have not seen any proof).
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    Anyways, I do echo Matthew's sentiment that no one should be surprised at the fact of Fr. Pfeiffer pursuing episcopal orders.  That has been in the pipe ever since he left the SSPX, I think.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #21 on: July 30, 2020, 09:51:13 AM »
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  • The man to the right is Fr. Pancras, is it not?
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #22 on: July 30, 2020, 09:56:59 AM »
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  • The man to the right is Fr. Pancras, is it not?
    Yes it's 100% him. Pablo has sermons by him posted, and it's certainly the same man.
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #23 on: July 30, 2020, 09:58:34 AM »
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  • The Trad world already suffers from a faction with poorly-trained priests and bishops who have no business being bishops.

    This just made everything much worse.
    Christ is Risen! He is risen indeed

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #24 on: July 30, 2020, 10:01:52 AM »
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  • It is my understanding that "Bishop" Webster is a sedevacantist and a Feeneyite.

    I am surprised that Fr. Pfeiffer would resort to Webster's services, since he (Pfeiffer) is militantly anti-Feeneyite (though for perspective, there is nothing that Pfeiffer is against that he isn't militantly against), and the only reason people know Webster's name is that he's the only traditional bishop on record who denies baptism of desire.  
    So, Fr Pfeiffer, one of the most outspoken, anti-feeneyite, if-you're-not-3-baptisms-you're-a-heretic priests i've ever heard of, is consecrated by (in his view) a feeneyite heretic.  Hahaha.  You can't make this stuff up.
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    And one of the most militantly outspoken, anti-sedevacantist, if-you-don't-believe-Francis-is-pope-you're-a-heretic priests i've ever heard of, is consecrated by (in his view) a sedevacantist heretic. 

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #25 on: July 30, 2020, 10:02:56 AM »
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  • Here is an old thread on Webster, with quite a few different links and sources gathered docuмenting his lineage: 

    https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/bp-neal-webster/

    http://www.thetradforum.com//index.php?topic=318.0
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #26 on: July 30, 2020, 10:03:57 AM »
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  • .
    And one of the most militantly outspoken, anti-sedevacantist, if-you-don't-believe-Francis-is-pope-you're-a-heretic priests i've ever heard of, is consecrated by (in his view) a sedevacantist heretic.
    I don't believe Webster is a sedevacantist. 
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    If he were, that would indeed compound the irony.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #27 on: July 30, 2020, 10:14:03 AM »
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  • I don't believe Webster is a sedevacantist.  
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    If he were, that would indeed compound the irony.
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    Thanks.  I was under the impression he was, and also going by what was written earlier, and it did seem to "compound the irony."  Interesting to know if he isn't.

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #28 on: July 30, 2020, 10:16:11 AM »
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  • The Catacombs Forum is posting this:

    “Well, dear friends, it seems that Fr. Pfeiffer has been "consecrated" by the dubious "Bishop" Neal Webster.


    It is my understanding that "Bishop" Webster is a sedevacantist and a Feeneyite. But of even more concern is the fact that[color=71101d] "Bishop" Webster is a Thuc line priest and bishop, placing great doubt on the validity of both his ordination and consecration, and consequently on the "consecration" of "Bishop" Pfeiffer.[/font][/size][/color]

    It is rumored that there will be a video published later today from OLMC with details of this "consecration" of Fr. Pfeiffer.“

    Well, now I see the resemblance.  I had not seen Bishop Webster in 30 years, so it didn't strike me at first, but, yes, that's Bishop Webster in red there.

    He seems to be a very SOFT Feeneyite, since Father Pfeiffer put out some very hostile anti-Feeneyite materials before.

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #29 on: July 30, 2020, 10:18:49 AM »
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  • Some sobering words from Hebrews chapter 5. This applies to priests but even more to bishops:

    [1] For every high priest taken from among men, is ordained for men in the things that appertain to God, that he may offer up gifts and sacrifices for sins: [2] Who can have compassion on them that are ignorant and that err: because he himself also is compassed with infirmity. [3] And therefore he ought, as for the people, so also for himself, to offer for sins. [4] Neither doth any man take the honour to himself, but he that is called by God, as Aaron was.


    This may be super-obvious, but it's a fact that a bishop will receive more money, gifts, honor, fame than a priest. Even today in the wilderness of "Traddieland".
    Woe to the priest who takes that honor and responsibility upon himself, and wasn't called to such a state by God. If it wasn't God's idea, then he won't have the supernatural strength to withstand the new temptations from the WORLD, FLESH and the DEVIL which will assault the bishop in his new state.
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