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Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
« Reply #285 on: August 11, 2020, 03:21:41 PM »
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  •  So a balance must be found between length and reverence.  If I'm a priest, I can't just go off and decide to mєdιαte for 15 minutes during the middle of the Canon right before the consecration or something (yes, I know, some saints were drawn into ecstatic states, but those are special cases) ... 
    One of the reasons why the Roman Rite had to be standardised at Trent was because practices of individual priests had become local customs. So for example a priest might do a prostration at some stage during the Mass. Another priest would see it and say, 'oh, I think that's reverent' and then do it himself. Eventually most priests in a locality are doing it.  Eventually Rome says, no, this is how you do it. As for the short Mass, my grandmother taught us that if it's less than 20 minutes then it's not a Mass! Her youngest brother was ordained in the 1920s after many years study in Rome (and was a moral theologian). That said I see the merit in a fast Mass but never so fast that the priest does not properly pronounce all the words. Think of priests offering Mass on a battlefield or in a situation whereby he could be discovered at any moment ... Consider a priest who has, for example, reached the Consecration and there's some hue and cry ... he's offering Mass without a mask, and there's police pounding down the door, he has to finish the Mass as fast as possible. I do agree though that it is the kind of thing that can become a habit ... In Ireland there was always the 'fast' priest who would help you fulfil your obligation as quickly as possible and allow you get to the football match or some such like. 

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #286 on: August 11, 2020, 08:31:55 PM »
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  • Fr/Bp. Pfeiffer does what he wants and always has an excuse for his actions.

    If he did a speed Mass, it’s: “ Oh I have to get to the airport”

    Fr. Asher though, represents the new SSPX culture.  He acts as if he has an elite license to do what he wants.

    His speed Masses have Latin with no inflections.  It’s as if he’s racing another priests to see who can get back to the Priory first. The faithful can’t keep up with him in their missals.

    And I’ve noticed many of the younger SSPX priests do the same.  It’s as if the seminary is forming them that way?

    But how can the most Holy event on earth be rushed?   Where is their love for the Mass  :facepalm:

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #287 on: August 12, 2020, 08:11:17 AM »
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  • Fr/Bp. Pfeiffer does what he wants and always has an excuse for his actions.

    If he did a speed Mass, it’s: “ Oh I have to get to the airport”

    Fr. Asher though, represents the new SSPX culture.  He acts as if he has an elite license to do what he wants.

    His speed Masses have Latin with no inflections.  It’s as if he’s racing another priests to see who can get back to the Priory first. The faithful can’t keep up with him in their missals.

    And I’ve noticed many of the younger SSPX priests do the same.  It’s as if the seminary is forming them that way?

    But how can the most Holy event on earth be rushed?   Where is their love for the Mass  :facepalm:
    You are right about Fr. Pfeiffer, because his motto is: The end justifies the means.  Whatever is his chosen end justifies whatever he has to do to get there.
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    I have tried so many times to follow Fr. Asher during mass.  It is no use.  Especially his daily masses.  Those are the really fast ones.
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    Seems the NO has affected the sspx in their loss of love for the mass.  I suspect Fr. Asher had a say in it, considering his background.  Also, he was appointed head of theology at the seminary after having been a priest just 2 years.  Out with the old and in with the new is the new sspx motto.

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #288 on: August 12, 2020, 01:20:43 PM »
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  • You are right about Fr. Pfeiffer, because his motto is: The end justifies the means.  Whatever is his chosen end justifies whatever he has to do to get there.
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    I have tried so many times to follow Fr. Asher during mass.  It is no use.  Especially his daily masses.  Those are the really fast ones.
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    Seems the NO has affected the sspx in their loss of love for the mass.  I suspect Fr. Asher had a say in it, considering his background.  Also, he was appointed head of theology at the seminary after having been a priest just 2 years.  Out with the old and in with the new is the new sspx motto.

    And recall that +ABL made poignant mention that Novus ordo priests had lost their way and didn’t know their spiritual function anymore?

    But he reminded his seminarians that their key duty of state was to make the Holy Sacrifice daily.   When they did this,  they were truly fulfilling their priesthood.

    So how could any SSPX priest face +ABL  (not to mention Our Lord) to explain their speed Masses?

    The answer is they can’t.

    They can only crawl into a hole to hide their shame, and hope their pit is not an antechamber to Hell.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #289 on: August 12, 2020, 06:08:07 PM »
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  • And recall that +ABL made poignant mention that Novus ordo priests had lost their way and didn’t know their spiritual function anymore?

    But he reminded his seminarians that their key duty of state was to make the Holy Sacrifice daily.   When they did this,  they were truly fulfilling their priesthood.

    So how could any SSPX priest face +ABL  (not to mention Our Lord) to explain their speed Masses?

    The answer is they can’t.

    They can only crawl into a hole to hide their shame, and hope their pit is not an antechamber to Hell.
    You are right.


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #290 on: August 13, 2020, 10:21:11 PM »
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  • I would put Fr. McFarland up against Fr. Asher anytime in a speed race saying Mass. Its like its a burden and they can't wait to get done with it ! Really Sad !

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #291 on: August 14, 2020, 12:03:45 AM »
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  • I would put Fr. McFarland up against Fr. Asher anytime in a speed race saying Mass. Its like its a burden and they can't wait to get done with it ! Really Sad !
    They have something in common, both went from the Novus Ordo to SSPX seminary in just two years. 
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #292 on: August 14, 2020, 10:50:18 AM »
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  • They have something in common, both went from the Novus Ordo to SSPX seminary in just two years.
    Maybe they have more in common.  Maybe Fr. McFarland's parents are NO still, as are Fr. Asher's. 
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    Honestly, I would take Fr. Asher's speed mass over Fr. Pfeiffer's grunting mass any day of the week.  Those grunts are the sign of possession according to Fr. Ripperger.


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #293 on: August 14, 2020, 11:22:52 AM »
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  • This is a rather important observation Venantius.  It matches with other parts of the occult farm scene.

    I haven’t noticed the “grunting” comment made about Bp. “P” before?

    When you have time could you dig out one of his Mass videos for us as an example.



    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #294 on: August 14, 2020, 02:29:20 PM »
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  • ...Honestly, I would take Fr. Asher's speed mass over Fr. Pfeiffer's grunting mass any day of the week.  Those grunts are the sign of possession according to Fr. Ripperger.
    It's been so long since I heard a Fr. Pfeiffer sermon, I'd forgotten about that grunting!  I always found it exceedingly annoying.  I had wondered if it was some sort of speech defect.  

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #295 on: August 14, 2020, 02:52:02 PM »
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  • Maybe they have more in common.  Maybe Fr. McFarland's parents are NO still, as are Fr. Asher's.
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    Honestly, I would take Fr. Asher's speed mass over Fr. Pfeiffer's grunting mass any day of the week.  Those grunts are the sign of possession according to Fr. Ripperger.
    Also, please send us the reference in which Fr. Ripperger mentions about grunting being one of the signs of possession.


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #296 on: August 14, 2020, 02:55:05 PM »
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  • Also, please send us the reference in which Fr. Ripperger mentions about grunting being one of the signs of possession.
    I second that request. 

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #297 on: August 14, 2020, 03:31:59 PM »
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  • It's been so long since I heard a Fr. Pfeiffer sermon, I'd forgotten about that grunting!  I always found it exceedingly annoying.  I had wondered if it was some sort of speech defect.  

    He did the same thing as a young seminarian when he spoke.  I've always gotten the impression it was his own version of "uhms" and "aahs" ... to let them think of the next thing to say.  So this habit long predates his association with Pablo.  Could also be some kind of nervous tick.
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #298 on: August 14, 2020, 04:20:53 PM »
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  • He did the same thing as a young seminarian when he spoke.  I've always gotten the impression it was his own version of "uhms" and "aahs" ... to let them think of the next thing to say.  So this habit long predates his association with Pablo.  Could also be some kind of nervous tick.
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    That's how I always thought of it, either "his own version of 'uhms' and 'aahs' ... to let them think of the next thing to say" or "some kind of nervous tick."    Interesting to know it goes way back.  

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #299 on: August 14, 2020, 04:30:38 PM »
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  • This is a rather important observation Venantius.  It matches with other parts of the occult farm scene.

    I haven’t noticed the “grunting” comment made about Bp. “P” before?

    When you have time could you dig out one of his Mass videos for us as an example.
    I won't listen to his sermons anymore.  I am certain of obsession and possibly possession.
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    He has gotten worse over the years.  There was one video I remember which has so many grunts I couldn't believe it.  And once when he was doing a conference after mass, it was SO obvious that everyone was looking around at eachother wondering what his problem was.


     

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