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Offline Venantius0518

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Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
« Reply #195 on: August 01, 2020, 12:37:00 PM »
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  • Now he is a "bishop" from the line of this "pope"?

    https://www.elmundo.es/cronica/2005/493/1111878014.html

    "Gregory XVII recognized that in his youth he fell prey to sɛҳuąƖ debauchery, and that he molested men and women attached to his sect. But that has not been an obstacle for thousands of people to remain faithful to their creed. Even after his death?"

    "Clemente himself, known as 'La Voltio' in gαy circles in Franco's Seville (***he used to work at an electricity company), confessed to his acolytes a few years ago his sins of sɛҳuąƖ incontinence, in apparent reference to his molestation of nuns and bishops under his command."

    Pfeiffer is marked for destruction many times over. He is the archetypal priest who forged his own calling, forged his own seminary, forged his own bishopric.

    I pray for his swift removal from the face of the earth. What a disgusting spectacle. Don't anyone dare put this all on the Mexican. If God's grace were enough for Pfeiffer, he'd never have resorted to Satan's power.
    I can't believe I am going to say this, but you are right on target, Croixalist.


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #196 on: August 01, 2020, 12:45:12 PM »
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  •  it would be crazy for the seminarians to accept orders in the very ceremony in which Fr./Bp. Pfeiffer acknowledges the defect of form).
    You assume they think for themselves.
    You are mistaken.
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    Proof 1:  They accept the "conditional ordination" of Fr(?) Poisson by William Moran at the instruction of Pfeiffer.
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    Proof 2: They accept Fr. Roberts to be innocent of all crimes of perversion, despite evidence to the contrary, at the instruction of Pfeiffer and Pablo.
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    Proof 3:  They revere Pablo and think him a "very good Catholic".
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    There are many other indications that these young men and women at OLMC, 80% of whom are either Pfeiffers or Blaszaks, have given their minds to Pfeiffer under Pablo. .
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    I agree with Croix: God needs to torch the place, and all movers and shakers in it.


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #197 on: August 01, 2020, 03:45:11 PM »
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  • The video linked below was recently posted. It is a still picture with several scrolling statements saying that sacraments do not depend on the faith of the minister.

    I'm guessing he's being defensive that Webster is sedevacantist, but if so, the message in the video below is very strange. I don't think anyone is questioning the validity based on differences of opinion on some issues. Is something else going on here?


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #198 on: August 01, 2020, 04:05:08 PM »
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  • I think they are just trying to convince themselves and everyone else that the ceremony was valid, thereby keeping everyone from remembering that no solid Catholic Bishop found the candidate worthy of the honour.
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #199 on: August 01, 2020, 04:17:10 PM »
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  • Even though our collective "fraternal correction" calling out Fr./Bp. Pfeiffer is actually the best form of charity called for in this situation -- he sees it differently.

    Indeed.  If I had been in this situation and someone pointed out the defective form while I still had a chance to correct it, I would be most grateful.  If we really wanted to get at him, we'd save the video and then pull it out after Bishop Webster was no longer capable of fixing the problem (e.g. after incapacity or death) ... after he had performed large numbers or ordinations or confirmations.  During his sermon, he might have publicly thanked CathInfo for pointing this out to him.


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #200 on: August 01, 2020, 04:21:56 PM »
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  • The video linked below was recently posted. It is a still picture with several scrolling statements saying that sacraments do not depend on the faith of the minister.

    Are they implying that Bishop Webster is a heretic?  How long do we give it before +?Pfeiffer is throwing Bishop Webster under the bus, publicly denouncing and excoriating him?  Nor would I feel too sorry for +Webster, since he should have researched who this man is before having consecrated him.

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #201 on: August 01, 2020, 05:19:33 PM »
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  • Are they implying that Bishop Webster is a heretic?  How long do we give it before +?Pfeiffer is throwing Bishop Webster under the bus, publicly denouncing and excoriating him?  Nor would I feel too sorry for +Webster, since he should have researched who this man is before having consecrated him.


    See my rant about Baby Boomers ;)

    If you are going to stay aloof from the Internet, you need an equally efficacious, current, and broad source of information/knowledge/intelligence about persons in the Trad world -- especially if you're a bishop and some of those persons are going to contact you seeking ordination.

    Considering the distributed, isolated nature of the Trad world, it would seem to be most imprudent to neither use the Internet NOR have a group of people keeping you up-to-speed about events, which they found out about on the Internet. I know Bp. Zendejas has a large group like this. I'm sure Bp. Williamson does as well. They are always well informed about all the personages and characters in Tradition.

    It's not like God doesn't hold bishops accountable for who they consecrate. If it's true that bad priests lead to apostate laymen, what does it mean for the bishop who ordained those bad priests? Wouldn't God hold him accountable? Indeed He does.
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #202 on: August 01, 2020, 05:21:28 PM »
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  • From the mailbag:


    From: Archbishop Ambrose <ambrosemet@gmail.com>
    Subject: "Bishop " Joseph Pfeiffer
    We are sad to announce that We cannot accept the validity of the recent attempted consecration 
    of Joseph Pfeiffer to the episcopate. There are several reasons for this .This was done without
    our knowledge or agreement.
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #203 on: August 01, 2020, 05:22:24 PM »
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  • I don't know if that is really Ambrose, but you're welcome to look into it. I posted everything I have.
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #204 on: August 01, 2020, 05:31:56 PM »
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  • I don't know if that is really Ambrose, but you're welcome to look into it. I posted everything I have.
    Does Ambrose claim some sort of jurisdiction in the matter?  Isn't he a fake bishop too?

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #205 on: August 01, 2020, 06:04:56 PM »
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  • Does Ambrose claim some sort of jurisdiction in the matter?  Isn't he a fake bishop too?
    He's a fake Arch-bishop, and perhaps thinks that gives him some power over fake just-bishops.


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #206 on: August 01, 2020, 06:53:53 PM »
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  • From the mailbag:


    From: Archbishop Ambrose <ambrosemet@gmail.com>
    Subject: "Bishop " Joseph Pfeiffer
    We are sad to announce that We cannot accept the validity of the recent attempted consecration 
    of Joseph Pfeiffer to the episcopate. There are several reasons for this .This was done without
    our knowledge or agreement.
    Archbishop +Ambrose
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    Well, Fr. Pfeiffer did one thing right....

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #207 on: August 01, 2020, 06:58:40 PM »
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  • He's a fake Arch-bishop, and perhaps thinks that gives him some power over fake just-bishops.
    I think he and Pfeiffer had a deal of some sort, hence "conditionally ordaining" Poisson at Pfeiffer's behest.
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    Moran lives in a rental house of a Pfeiffer supporter just a 3 hour drive from OLMC.
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    Wonder if Moran will excommunicate Pfeiffer now.  That would solve everything because Fr. Pfeiffer considers Moran a legitimate Archbishop.   Hence, Fr. Pfeiffer would have to cease and desist all operations.

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #208 on: August 01, 2020, 07:07:48 PM »
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  • The video linked below was recently posted. It is a still picture with several scrolling statements saying that sacraments do not depend on the faith of the minister.
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    If the sacraments do not depend on the faith of the minister, why couldn't Pfeiffer work with b. Williamson?  Or Fellay?  
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    Fr. Pfeiffer will do or say anything to benefit himself and his operation.   
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    To him, the end justifies the means.

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #209 on: August 01, 2020, 07:43:57 PM »
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  • I literally laughed out loud and spit some chuck roast across the table when reading that Ambrose Moran 1) does not accept the consecration, 2) on the grounds that it was done without HIS approval, 3)and that he thought CathInfo should know. 
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    I couldn't be more entertained by a circus. Even if the email is fake, I applaud the sense of humor. 
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).