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Offline MaterDominici

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Bishop Pfeiffer
« on: July 30, 2020, 01:12:37 AM »
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    Apparently Fr. Pfeiffer has had himself consecrated Bishop. No details were given, but this is from his website mailing list.
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #1 on: July 30, 2020, 03:35:32 AM »
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  • No way.


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #2 on: July 30, 2020, 06:20:10 AM »
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  • So...who did he get to consecrate him?  

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #3 on: July 30, 2020, 07:48:11 AM »
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  • Who’s in the picture with him?
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #4 on: July 30, 2020, 07:54:54 AM »
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  • No way.

    Oh, come on, we all knew it was just a matter of time.  He was desperate to be consecrated a bishop, and there are plenty out there willing to offer their services.


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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #5 on: July 30, 2020, 08:22:04 AM »
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  • Oh, come on, we all knew it was just a matter of time.  He was desperate to be consecrated a bishop, and there are plenty out there willing to offer their services.
    This.

    Besides the issue of VALIDITY, there is a much bigger issue going forward: poorly trained and formed priests.
    For those Traditional Catholics not running the other way from everything Pfeiffer -- those willing to attend an "independent chapel" -- their lives just got more difficult.

    I'll repeat what I've said before: BEWARE any "independent chapel" and do your due diligence/research. Right now we have the Resistance which is basically as safe as the SSPX as far as validity/training. But Trad Catholics must always ask the question, WHERE DID THIS BISHOP/PRIEST COME FROM? How was he trained -- and formed? You have to know what you're getting. Don't just bless your apparent good luck and chomp down on the bait -- look into it and question it. If a "trad" bishop wasn't known until 2020, WHY wasn't he known until then? Does he have skeletons in his closet? Is he really a bishop? etc.

    That's why 90% of Traditional Catholics went with the SSPX over the past decades, and many still do! I don't blame them really. Part of being a Traditional Catholic is *safety* of one's Faith. Sticking with a known good. Why go to some chapel where the priest might turn out to not even be a priest? Don't scoff -- that has actually happened to some hapless Trads over the past decades! Imagine finding out all your confessions were invalid, and that all your "communions" with that priest were just bread.

    But even if Fr./Bishop Pfeiffer turns out to be validly consecrated, that is only 10% of the problem. His "seminary" is a joke and that isn't going to change any time soon. He and his seminary are still under the demonic influence of Pablo "el Diablo" Hernandez. He is going to unleash on the STARVING TRAD WORLD a flood of poorly trained and/or bewitched priests -- like the Church suffered in the 1400's, which led to the Protestant reformation. You know, the ones who were living in concubinage, selling indulgences. They were trained by hanging around a Bishop for a while, like an apprenticeship. They were horribly ignorant, full of vice, poorly trained -- causing more problems than if they didn't exist. Read your Church history.

    Woe unto the world for bad priests. That is the mind of the Catholic Church on the matter -- not my personal opinion.

    If the Church thought it was better to have legions of bad, poorly trained priests -- She wouldn't have instituted and required Seminaries right after the Protestant Revolt, and She would make becoming a priest much easier. But she doesn't. Because, as I said -- She would rather see a priest shortage than a plethora of bad priests. And we're talking about the Bride of Christ who wants only what is good for souls -- souls bought with the most precious Price of Jesus Christ's own Blood.

    With a lack of priests, you can still keep the Faith at home with your family. A bad priest? Not so much. That is how atheists and anti-Catholics are made.
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #6 on: July 30, 2020, 08:51:24 AM »
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  • There has been no verification
    It does appear that the photo may have been photoshopped.  But I don't know how this can be verified.

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #7 on: July 30, 2020, 09:00:54 AM »
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  • It's from the "In This Sign" mailing list. Pablo just released a "teaser" and promised more details to follow.

    You're still in Denial. I expect "Anger" and "Bargaining" to follow. I'm over here at "Acceptance".

    It's horrible, it's bad news for the Trad world, but it's all too real.

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #8 on: July 30, 2020, 09:04:03 AM »
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  • It does appear that the photo may have been photoshopped.  But I don't know how this can be verified.

    Come on!

    You make us look like a bunch of kooks. HOW does it look photoshopped? You're damaging not only your own credibility, but the general credibility of CathInfo as well. Don't be the boy who cried "PHOTOSHOP!"

    This is clearly a case of Denial.

    When there really IS a Photoshop (like Ambrose Moran photos) I'd like people to believe us.

    I'm a computer guy with a lot of photoshop skills myself. I see NO evidence that photo was photoshopped.
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #9 on: July 30, 2020, 09:04:47 AM »
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  • Can we begin the countdown to the ordination of Pablo to the priesthood?

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #10 on: July 30, 2020, 09:08:00 AM »
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  • Come on!

    You make us look like a bunch of kooks. HOW does it look photoshopped? You're damaging not only your own credibility, but the general credibility of CathInfo as well. Don't be the boy who cried "PHOTOSHOP!"

    This is clearly a case of Denial.

    When there really IS a Photoshop (like Ambrose Moran photos) I'd like people to believe us.

    I'm a computer guy with a lot of photoshop skills myself. I see NO evidence that photo was photoshopped.


    It certainly doesn't look photoshopped.
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #11 on: July 30, 2020, 09:09:44 AM »
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  • It certainly doesn't look photoshopped.
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    No, but the techniques are getting better (deep fake) ... though I doubt Pablo would have access to that level of technology.

    The only suspicion that it might be photoshopped is the source ... Pablo.

    I mean, they were promoting those OBVIOUSLY photoshopped pictures of Moran with Cardinal Slipijy

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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #12 on: July 30, 2020, 09:13:24 AM »
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  • Come on!

    You make us look like a bunch of kooks. HOW does it look photoshopped? You're damaging not only your own credibility, but the general credibility of CathInfo as well. Don't be the boy who cried "PHOTOSHOP!"

    This is clearly a case of Denial.

    When there really IS a Photoshop (like Ambrose Moran photos) I'd like people to believe us.

    I'm a computer guy with a lot of photoshop skills myself. I see NO evidence that photo was photoshopped.

    What hurts the credibility of CI is posting a picture without any announcement or proof of authenticity (particularly in something so important).

    Please post the announcement you received in the mailing list.

    I’m not saying it’s not true, but I do refuse to believe it merely on the basis of a pic I could create myself.

    I want details.
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #13 on: July 30, 2020, 09:17:49 AM »
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  • No, but the techniques are getting better (deep fake) ... though I doubt Pablo would have access to that level of technology.

    The only suspicion that it might be photoshopped is the source ... Pablo.

    I mean, they were promoting those OBVIOUSLY photoshopped pictures of Moran with Cardinal Slipijy

    Yes, but logically that made sense. He wanted (or "needed") to establish Ambrose's legitimacy as a bishop, so HE could benefit (getting consecrated, having his "seminarians" ordained, etc.) Ambrose was his only option at the time.

    But as you yourself said, there are plenty of "garage bishops" out there for ANY priest to get himself consecrated, if they reach that low point in their spiritual life. So it's most likely Fr. Pfeiffer eventually found and convinced one or two of these.

    But something like this, he'd want to broadcast the REAL consecration ceremony to make sure everyone knows he's a "valid bishop". Nevermind Fr. Pfeiffer's spiritual problems brought up in the past by Fr. Voigt, the complete lack of order or discipline at the seminary, or the demonic influence of Pablo. THOSE are the real issues with Fr. P.

    The problems with this scene happened when he approached those bishop(s) for consecration -- not the scene of the consecration itself. What I'm trying to say is, when you can get shifty bishops to consecrate you bishop, you don't need shifty photoshop fakes.

    The problem in this case is Father resorting to shifty bishops who will consecrate any priest.
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    Re: Bishop Pfeiffer
    « Reply #14 on: July 30, 2020, 09:18:27 AM »
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  • What hurts the credibility of CI is posting a picture without any announcement or proof of authenticity (particularly in something so important).

    Please post the announcement you received in the mailing list.

    I’m not saying it’s not true, but I do refuse to believe it merely on the basis of a pic I could create myself.

    I want details.

    The Catacombs Forum is posting this:

    “Well, dear friends, it seems that Fr. Pfeiffer has been "consecrated" by the dubious "Bishop" Neal Webster.


    It is my understanding that "Bishop" Webster is a sedevacantist and a Feeneyite. But of even more concern is the fact that[color=71101d] "Bishop" Webster is a Thuc line priest and bishop, placing great doubt on the validity of both his ordination and consecration, and consequently on the "consecration" of "Bishop" Pfeiffer.[/font][/size][/color]

    It is rumored that there will be a video published later today from OLMC with details of this "consecration" of Fr. Pfeiffer.“
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-


     

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