Since March 19, Bishop Vitus Huonder has been hospitalized in Chur, Switzerland with serious health problems.
I was just wondering if we would have Holy(?) Oils this year. It seems that we won't.
Let us hope that he recovers his good health and that he uses this time to reflect on the dirty work he has been doing to destroy Tradition.
I wish him well and hope for a quick recovery. I do find it repulsive that the SSPX keeps using him as a pawn in their sick and twisted game.Who's using who...
I know what you mean but how about we reorganize your sentence a little--Rather, let's hope he reflects enough to convert....and then recovers his health to try and undo his destruction of the Faith. If he doesn't repent then we don't need him around any longer and to heck with his health. But he, as all of us, is in God's Hand.
I wonder if he would get the new / valid holy oils, while other people suffered with the bogus ones.Only with the SSPX of 2024 would (could!) such a thing be discussed. Kyrie eleison.
I wonder if he would get the new / valid holy oils, while other people suffered with the bogus ones..
I saw two stories about his health recently. One seems to be fairly correct, the other needs more corroborating.:confused:
1. It appears is that he received Last Rites over the Triduum. This is from a source I saw in German.
2. The other rumor I saw on the Society groups on Facebook. If it is true, then it's much worse than thought.
B) anyone in the Resistance can throw in their face how they're doing the same thing +Williamson did recently with his consecrations.Do they care at this point?
It will be difficult, nay, impossible for them to show any ways in which their "illicit" consecration is somehow fundamentally different than the consecration of +Faure, +Thomas Aquinas, +Zendejas, et. al.
Do they care at this point?
Dear Faithful,
The illicitly consecrated +Zendejas needs to repent, and Bp. Williamson is disobedient (hence bad) for consecrating without a Papal mandate.
Yours truly,
[A priest illicitly consecrated (without Papal mandate) by the SSPX 3 months ago.]
US District HQ
Platte City, MO
I hope Mr. Huonder converts before he dies, and that those who enabled him do some proper penance.I feel remorse for having written this in a tone that shows some glee on my part. Like Our Lord "I desire not the death of the wicked."
On the bright side, I may get my confirmation with the SSPX this year, Deo volente.
Happy Easter! The Lord is risen!
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Boys and girls, remember you CAN change the thread title when responding to a thread. Each and every post has the "power" to change the latest thread Title that appears on the front page of CathInfo, etc. So please avail yourself of this power, early and often!It does on the front page, but the "Recent Topics" page still shows the old title.
It does on the front page, but the "Recent Topics" page still shows the old title.I see you fixed it.
It does on the front page, but the "Recent Topics" page still shows the old title.Yeah, it grabs from the database a different way. So in this case, to get it to appear on Recent Topics as well, I have to manually edit the first post, which I did just now.
I pray that he truly was of good will and converted in the end, but I’m very thankful that he is not able to give faithful Catholics fake oils in the future.Agree 100%.
For all those who argue that the new-sspx wasn't trying to use a new-bishop to infiltrate the society with fake oils, fake confirmations, etc...let's see how long it takes for the new-sspx to find a "new bishop convert" to join the group.
This Huonder thing is clearly a divine statement, and now he is dead... Cancer of Pancreas, is like the lightning of cancers, short notice, and death within a week. The timing couldn't be better and more related with the deception of last year (Remember, they were hiding the identity of the celebrant at first): he goes to the hospital just before the Chrismal Mass, and now the german priests, who could not call a replacement bishop at the last minute, have to beg valid Holy Oils from other districts, while unable to send confreres abroad, in Asia in particular, to spread huonderful oils.
Looks like the Heavens agree with the position of Archbishop Lefebvre, and this is a sign that God still cares about sspx people, let aside the sspx management, which is quite pitiful in those days of strife and mediocrity. Whether the sspx is going to make use of the warning is an entirely other piece of cake... almost a pie in the sky, shining high on the road of compromising.
fc+
Fr. Chazal chimed in:
Bishop Huonder will be buried in Econe next to the Archbishop. This of course has not been published in English.So now doubtful/invalid Novus Ordo bishops are granted the request to be buried alongside ABL. Are there any other (real) bishops buried next to him or even near him?
Mgr Vitus Huonder – Faire-part et informations | District de Suisse (fsspx.ch) (https://fsspx.ch/fr/news/mgr-vitus-huonder-faire-part-et-informations-43954)
"Many people were surprised to learn that Mgr Vitus Huonder would be buried not in Chur, but in Écône. This choice had already been communicated to the diocese in 2022, then reiterated orally to Mgr Bonnemain as well as to the Superior General of the Society of Saint Pius X a few days before his death. What were the reasons that pushed the former bishop of Chur to make this decision?
They are in one word: he wanted to be buried alongside the bishop who suffered so much for the Church. These are his own words."
Bishop Huonder will be buried in Econe next to the Archbishop. This of course has not been published in English.
Mgr Vitus Huonder – Faire-part et informations | District de Suisse (fsspx.ch) (https://fsspx.ch/fr/news/mgr-vitus-huonder-faire-part-et-informations-43954)
"Many people were surprised to learn that Mgr Vitus Huonder would be buried not in Chur, but in Écône. This choice had already been communicated to the diocese in 2022, then reiterated orally to Mgr Bonnemain as well as to the Superior General of the Society of Saint Pius X a few days before his death. What were the reasons that pushed the former bishop of Chur to make this decision?
They are in one word: he wanted to be buried alongside the bishop who suffered so much for the Church. These are his own words."
In a certain way, this is even more offensive than having him celebrating the Holy Thursday Mass. Some people might actually believe that his episcopacy was valid.That spot should have been reserved for Bishop Williamson.
This seems to imply that he is of the same caliber of Abp. Lefebvre is a largely symbolic gesture.
It's like they are showing through this gesture that they have fully embraced the Conciliar Church, putting a man of this Church side by side with their great founder.
That spot should have been reserved for Bishop Williamson.Granted, it is no surprise that this isn't what was done since Bishop Williamson is not part of the SSPX anymore. But, given there are other SSPX bishops who will someday die, you would think that they would have saved the spot for them.
Correction: it has now been published in English.
Bishop Vitus Huonder and the SSPX | FSSPX News (https://fsspx.news/en/news/bishop-vitus-huonder-and-sspx-43977?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tweepsmap-FSSPX-News)
Still, he will be buried in the crypt of Econe, while Bishop Williamson was sent away. Bishop Lazo (who truly converted to tradition) is not buried in Econe, nor is Bishop de Castro Mayer. Huonder, who has never been a member of the Society, who was not ordained or consecrated by the Archbishop will be given the grace to be buried with him in the crypt of Econe. I would assume that the remaining three bishops of the Society will likely also be buried there one day.
He's probably the first layman buried in the crypt at Econe.🎯 🎯 🎯
Correction: it has now been published in English.I wonder if they would have any reason to make changes to that page. I'd like it archived, but I don't have a way of saving it right now.
Bishop Vitus Huonder and the SSPX | FSSPX News (https://fsspx.news/en/news/bishop-vitus-huonder-and-sspx-43977?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tweepsmap-FSSPX-News)
Still, he will be buried in the crypt of Econe, while Bishop Williamson was sent away. Bishop Lazo (who truly converted to tradition) is not buried in Econe, nor is Bishop de Castro Mayer. Huonder, who has never been a member of the Society, who was not ordained or consecrated by the Archbishop will be given the grace to be buried with him in the crypt of Econe. I would assume that the remaining three bishops of the Society will likely also be buried there one day.
He's probably the first layman buried in the crypt at Econe.I do not think so. I believe there are deceased seminarian(s) buried in the crypt as well.
I do not think so. I believe there are deceased seminarian(s) buried in the crypt as well.
I do not think so. I believe there are deceased seminarian(s) buried in the crypt as well.If they have received tonsure, these seminarians are not laymen regardless of what the 1984 Code of Canon Law states.
If they have received tonsure, these seminarians are not laymen regardless of what the 1984 Code of Canon Law states.Bishop (?) Huonder would also have been tonsured. Unfortunately his clerical status will do nothing to reduce the scandal caused by his being buried beside Archbishop Lefebvre, something surely calculated by the enemy in the Society to further erode the fight for the Faith.