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Bishop Fellays threefold denial of Christ
« on: February 01, 2017, 10:41:52 PM »
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  • In his lifetime, Archbishop Lefebvre courageously proclaimed Rome’s apostasy far and wide. He also declared that there could be no deal with the Conciliar Church until Rome converts to the true faith.

    One month into 2017 and Traditional Catholics are being flooded with yet more rumors of a deal (a deal with the devil, no doubt) between the Society of St. Pius X and Modernist Rome.

    Before anyone can make a deal with the devil that person must first deny our Lord.

    First denial of Our Lord – Silence

    The pontificate of Francis has been the most destructive of all the Popes since Vatican II, and quite possibly the most destructive in the history of the Church. Where is Bishop Fellay amidst all of this? Silent. No bold declarations. No confrontations of Francis. No public rebukes. No condemnations.

    Although articles somewhat critical of things Pope Francis has done do in fact appear on the Society’s website once in a while, they heavily cite Cardinals and Bishops who are on the “inside” of the Conciliar Church. In essence, the Society outsources its criticism to others. Never is Bishop Fellay quoted directly. Whereas Christ shouted “whited sepulchers!” to the enemies of God, Bishop Fellay nervously inquires “hey guys, do you mind if one of my assistants quotes Cardinal so-and-so’s disagreement with you?”

    When asked “Art not thou also one of His disciples?” Bishop Fellay’s silence says “I am not.”

    Second denial of Our Lord – Politicking

    “But now you seek to kill me, a man who has spoken the truth to you…You are of your father the devil…He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him.”

    These are the words of our Lord. Did He try to win favors from the Pharisees? Did He cower in fear or try to strike deals with them while they sought to kill Him? No. Our Lord spoke the truth. Plainly yet forcefully. Human respect be damned. Pleasing God came first. The same cannot be said for Bishop Fellay.

    If the greatest, most noble destiny a man can have is to follow in Christ’s footsteps unto martyrdom, why does Bishop Fellay not then also speak the truth and defend our Lord and His Church? He did at one point. But no longer. Furthermore, why do we see Bishop Fellay politicking, constantly, over and over for the past many years? Handshakes with Benedict. Smiles with Francis. Meetings with Ecclesia Dei. Clever politicking and subtle maneuvering are radically opposed to the way our Lord carried out his divine mission.

    The world asks Bishop Fellay again, “Art not thou also one of His disciples?” To which he replies for a second time, “I am not.”

    Third denial of Our Lord – Survival

    Scripture tells us that “he who wishes to save his life shall lose it; he that loses his life for Christ’s sake shall find it.”

    This drove the disciples to lay down their lives in the same manner as our Lord. Today, living in a sort of Diocletian spiritual persecution, we hear from the mouth of Bishop Fellay: “A certain number of conditions are necessary for us to reach a deal …and for us the essential condition is our survival.”

    This is the nail in the coffin of the SSPX. By this declaration merely “to survive,” Bishop Fellay and the Society shall surely perish. Jesus warned us in the Gospel of Matthew to “persevere to the end.” He said nothing about just trying to get by in order to save one’s life.

    A third time Bishop Fellay is asked: “Art not thou also one of his disciples?” To which he replies, “I am not.”

    Certain death

    Christ said to his disciples they would be delivered up and put to death. He also said that they would be “hated by all nations for my name’s sake.” And yet how does Pope Francis describe Bishop Fellay? Like a close friend:

    “Bishop Fellay is a man with whom one can dialogue. That is not the case for other elements who are a little strange, such as Bishop Williamson or others who have been radicalized.”

    We know by this very quote who the real hero is and who the Judas is.

    For Judas dialogued with the Pharisees and remained silent while they tried our Lord. He politicked. He jockeyed. He made a deal for Truth. And, indeed, he lost his life.

    The cock crows.

    Source: https://psalm129.wordpress.com/2017/01/31/bishop-fellays-threefold-denial-of-christ/
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    Bishop Fellays threefold denial of Christ
    « Reply #1 on: February 02, 2017, 12:06:12 AM »
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    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    « Reply #3 on: February 02, 2017, 09:46:12 AM »
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    “Bishop Fellay is a man with whom one can dialogue. That is not the case for other elements who are a little strange, such as Bishop Williamson or others who have been radicalized.”

    We know by this very quote who the real hero is and who the Judas is.

    For Judas dialogued with the Pharisees and remained silent while they tried our Lord. He politicked. He jockeyed. He made a deal for Truth. And, indeed, he lost his life.

    The cock crows.

    Source: https://psalm129.wordpress.com/2017/01/31/bishop-fellays-threefold-denial-of-christ/


    Excellent piece.

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    Bishop Fellays threefold denial of Christ
    « Reply #4 on: February 02, 2017, 01:39:44 PM »
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  • The betrayal is even more obvious with Bergolio at the helm.
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24


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    Bishop Fellays threefold denial of Christ
    « Reply #5 on: February 02, 2017, 02:22:15 PM »
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  • Yes. A man who has already destroyed several religious orders including the takeover of the (now not so sovereign) Order of Malta. What makes +Fellay think that Francis likes them? That they will survive the "destroyer"? And if Francis does like them, they have apostatized. Francis only likes heretics. He is a Lutheran.
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    « Reply #6 on: February 02, 2017, 02:49:17 PM »
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  • He didn't completely reject (with disgust) the communist crucifix he was given. That alone makes him suspect.

    Vatican II was supposed to condemn communism. That was before the Modernists hijacked the council.

    Anyone who isn't 100% the mortal enemy of Communism is ignorant of how opposed to the Catholic Faith communism is, and how many millions of people communism has caused to be brutally murdered.

    Communism is best defined as atheistic materialism. And it is a creation of the godless ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, the тαℓмυdic Jєωs.

    Even if he was just being polite, a polite smile was NOT called for.

    If the president of Bolivia had presented him with some other blasphemy, should the Pope have accepted it with a smile? Perhaps the infamous "crucifix in a jar of urine" work of so-called "art"?

    There is a time when civility and politeness must give place to wrath, or at least a firm "get out of my house" or, if it isn't your house, turn around and walk away from the person who was offensive.
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    « Reply #7 on: February 08, 2017, 01:01:34 AM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew

    In his lifetime, Archbishop Lefebvre courageously proclaimed Rome’s apostasy far and wide. He also declared that there could be no deal with the Conciliar Church until Rome converts to the true faith.

    One month into 2017 and Traditional Catholics are being flooded with yet more rumors of a deal (a deal with the devil, no doubt) between the Society of St. Pius X and Modernist Rome.

    Before anyone can make a deal with the devil that person must first deny our Lord.

    First denial of Our Lord – Silence

    The pontificate of Francis has been the most destructive of all the Popes since Vatican II, and quite possibly the most destructive in the history of the Church. Where is Bishop Fellay amidst all of this? Silent. No bold declarations. No confrontations of Francis. No public rebukes. No condemnations.

    Although articles somewhat critical of things Pope Francis has done do in fact appear on the Society’s website once in a while, they heavily cite Cardinals and Bishops who are on the “inside” of the Conciliar Church. In essence, the Society outsources its criticism to others. Never is Bishop Fellay quoted directly. Whereas Christ shouted “whited sepulchers!” to the enemies of God, Bishop Fellay nervously inquires “hey guys, do you mind if one of my assistants quotes Cardinal so-and-so’s disagreement with you?”

    When asked “Art not thou also one of His disciples?” Bishop Fellay’s silence says “I am not.”

    Second denial of Our Lord – Politicking

    “But now you seek to kill me, a man who has spoken the truth to you…You are of your father the devil…He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him.”

    These are the words of our Lord. Did He try to win favors from the Pharisees? Did He cower in fear or try to strike deals with them while they sought to kill Him? No. Our Lord spoke the truth. Plainly yet forcefully. Human respect be damned. Pleasing God came first. The same cannot be said for Bishop Fellay.

    If the greatest, most noble destiny a man can have is to follow in Christ’s footsteps unto martyrdom, why does Bishop Fellay not then also speak the truth and defend our Lord and His Church? He did at one point. But no longer. Furthermore, why do we see Bishop Fellay politicking, constantly, over and over for the past many years? Handshakes with Benedict. Smiles with Francis. Meetings with Ecclesia Dei. Clever politicking and subtle maneuvering are radically opposed to the way our Lord carried out his divine mission.

    The world asks Bishop Fellay again, “Art not thou also one of His disciples?” To which he replies for a second time, “I am not.”

    Third denial of Our Lord – Survival

    Scripture tells us that “he who wishes to save his life shall lose it; he that loses his life for Christ’s sake shall find it.”

    This drove the disciples to lay down their lives in the same manner as our Lord. Today, living in a sort of Diocletian spiritual persecution, we hear from the mouth of Bishop Fellay: “A certain number of conditions are necessary for us to reach a deal …and for us the essential condition is our survival.”

    This is the nail in the coffin of the SSPX. By this declaration merely “to survive,” Bishop Fellay and the Society shall surely perish. Jesus warned us in the Gospel of Matthew to “persevere to the end.” He said nothing about just trying to get by in order to save one’s life.

    A third time Bishop Fellay is asked: “Art not thou also one of his disciples?” To which he replies, “I am not.”

    Certain death

    Christ said to his disciples they would be delivered up and put to death. He also said that they would be “hated by all nations for my name’s sake.” And yet how does Pope Francis describe Bishop Fellay? Like a close friend:

    “Bishop Fellay is a man with whom one can dialogue. That is not the case for other elements who are a little strange, such as Bishop Williamson or others who have been radicalized.”

    We know by this very quote who the real hero is and who the Judas is.

    For Judas dialogued with the Pharisees and remained silent while they tried our Lord. He politicked. He jockeyed. He made a deal for Truth. And, indeed, he lost his life.

    The cock crows.

    Source: https://psalm129.wordpress.com/2017/01/31/bishop-fellays-threefold-denial-of-christ/


    This is a letter to the Editor of the Tradition In Action website. Curiously, Mr Guimaraes seems to think (emphasis added) that Bishop Fellay and Archbishop Lefebvre are on the same page:

    http://traditioninaction.org/Questions/B941_Nose.html

    Your Opinion on the SSPX Agreement


    Dear Sir,

    Over many years you have shown, both in words and in pictures, the revolutionary nature of the Vatican II Conciliar Church. Yet, over an equal span of time, the leader of the largest Traditional Catholic organization in the world, the SSPX, has been relentlessly trying to come to a deal with these same revolutionaries and progressivists. The excuses this man and his inner circle make grow ever more astounding with each new Roman pontiff. Now, they have lots of good words to say about Bergoglio.

    But you are silent on this issue.

         Sincerely,

         J.M.
    ______________________


    The Editor responds:

    Dear Mr. J.M.,

    Thank you for being a regular reader of our website. Thank you also for the amiable words on our work.

    Regarding the merger of SSPX with the Vatican our website has published so many things in times past, that I believed TIA was excused from commenting on the final phases of the process being played out today.

    Your message, however, shows I am mistaken. So, I will list below for you and other readers who may think like you some of the many items TIA has posted on the topic:

        The Vatican and the Traditionalist Cake
        Traditionalist Marriage with the Vatican
        Card. Hoyos and the SSPX Acceptance of Vatican II
        Guimarães to Fellay: Did You Accept Vatican II or Not? Don’t Hit Around the Bush
        Awakening from a False Obedience
        Bishop Fellay Accepted 95% of Vatican II
        A Bold Show of Dissatisfaction in the SSPX Ranks
        What the SSPX Website Is Saying about the Merger
        A Close-up of the Split of the Split in SSPX
        Arch. Lefebvre: I Accepted Vatican II in the Light of Tradition
        Lefebvre's Proposal to Merge with Rome

    I believe that what I affirmed in the past remains valid today and applies at the present to the last steps of the SSPX agreement that Bishop Fellay is arranging with Rome.

    In a nutshell: He doing now what he was meant to do when Archbishop Lefebvre chose him to be his worthy successor. Both had/have the mission to bring back to the progressivist Rome the largest part possible of the reaction against Progressivism.

    I hope that after reading these articles you will retract your ill-informed accusation that I have been omissive in speaking on this issue.

         Cordially,

         A.S. Guimarães


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    « Reply #8 on: February 08, 2017, 11:49:59 AM »
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  • Ah so!   In conclusion, Tradition In Action never trusted the SSPX.

    Then, as I have always suspected...they have the grace of Wisdom.

    Deo gratias!


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