Author Topic: Bishop Fellay: The Pope May Declare Us Schismatic (Read 14095 times)

Diego · « **Reply #60 on:** October 23, 2011, 11:45:42 PM »

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I don't agree with his sudden sympathetic attitude towards the Jєωs, saying we shouldn't be "anti-Jєω" because "Jesus, Mary, and the Apostles were all Jєω".

I think for Tradition's sake, Fellay and +Williamson need to try and make mends if the Society is going to avoid totally collapsing. And Fellay is the one who needs to make those mends rather than practically threatening +Williamson and throwing him under the bus.

Agreed on both points.

I would add this. A prelate should know the difference—and teach the difference—between TRUE Jєωs and "the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, those who say they are Jєωs, and are not, and do lie." I can put no trust in a prelate who conflates true Jєωs with the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan. I can put no trust in a prelate who has fear of the Jєωs.

Let us rescue Bp. Williamson from his prison.

Ethelred · « **Reply #61 on:** October 24, 2011, 10:09:44 AM »

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Well, not just since early 2009 I've absolutely no reason to trust Bishop Fellay or his assistants, namely Fr Pfluger. They brought us Krah, and that's just the one bad egg most Internet users who're aware of the Krah-Gate know of! There are others, too.

Fr. Marcus Heggenberger

Oh yes, this is true, unfortunately.

hollingsworth · « **Reply #62 on:** October 25, 2011, 07:21:14 AM »

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I seriously doubt the catholicity of many of the people on this forum recently.

Well, from what I have learned, the SSPX leaders doubt the "catholicity" of Bp. Williamson, as well. That's about all I can say. Perhaps Ethelred can corroborate that such a doubt, on the part of SSPX leadership, has been expressed about +W, because it certainly has. Doubting others' "catholicity" seems to be in vogue these days among some.

Ethelred · « **Reply #63 on:** October 25, 2011, 09:37:16 AM »

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I seriously doubt the catholicity of many of the people on this forum recently.

Well, from what I have learned, the SSPX leaders doubt the "catholicity" of Bp. Williamson, as well. That's about all I can say. Perhaps Ethelred can corroborate that such a doubt, on the part of SSPX leadership, has been expressed about +W, because it certainly has.

Yes, I can. I've heard with with my proper ears that Fr Pfluger likes to doubt or even deny the fact that Bishop Williamson is roman-catholic.

That's no surprise however, because Krah does so in public, and his public actions are usually rubber-stamped by Fr Pfluger first. They even use the same strange abbreviations which must be © by Pfluger-Krah.

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Doubting others' "catholicity" seems to be in vogue these days among some.

Yes. Also here on Cathinfo, see some of Capistrano's opponents.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #64 on:** October 25, 2011, 02:10:27 PM »

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Yes, I can. I've heard with with my proper ears that Fr Pfluger likes to doubt or even deny the fact that Bishop Williamson is roman-catholic.

That's no surprise however, because Krah does so in public, and his public actions are usually rubber-stamped by Fr Pfluger first. They even use the same strange abbreviations which must be © by Pfluger-Krah.

Yes, there is a cultish clique that is unprincipled - as they lead the SSPX away from Archbishop's mission, they turn it from a good and holy religious body into a cult.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #65 on:** October 25, 2011, 03:36:05 PM »

While I agree that Bishop Fellay is not following Archbishop LeFebvre's mission, calling the Society a cult is not logical. The definition of a cult would be the Protestant Reformation, when people followed Martin Luther, a man who had no authority what-so-ever.

Charles · « **Reply #66 on:** October 25, 2011, 08:37:37 PM »

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I seriously doubt the catholicity of many of the people on this forum recently.

Well, from what I have learned, the SSPX leaders doubt the "catholicity" of Bp. Williamson, as well. That's about all I can say. Perhaps Ethelred can corroborate that such a doubt, on the part of SSPX leadership, has been expressed about +W, because it certainly has. Doubting others' "catholicity" seems to be in vogue these days among some.

Made me think of these words by BXVI
"Williamson is an atypical case in that he was, when you think about it, never Catholic in the proper sense. He was an Anglican and then went over directly to Lefebvre. This means that he has never lived in the great Church, that he has never lived with the Pope"

I don't agree at all, just noting the similar sentiment. +Williamson is a Roman Catholic bishop .... to the core.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #67 on:** October 25, 2011, 08:45:59 PM »

Whoever thumbed down my post apparently doesn't think the Protestant Reformation was a cult. That's basically what they implied by thumbing it down (and I have a feeling who thumbed it down).

hollingsworth · « **Reply #68 on:** October 26, 2011, 06:57:39 AM »

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+Williamson is a Roman Catholic bishop .... to the core.

Yes, and that is probably why he has been put on the shelf. A few of the leading SSPX officials are not Catholic to the core. They are politicians and deal makers to the core!