Author Topic: Bishop Fellay did sign a Doctrinal deal with Rome. (Read 3364 times)

Matthew · « **Reply #5 on:** June 15, 2013, 11:59:18 AM »

And it's not just the number of "worldly" trads that allowed this to happen, but the greater number of IGNORANT and UNINFORMED trads, who never managed to learn what the SSPX is all about -- what Archbishop Lefebvre did, taught, and stood for.

These are the ones who keep trusting, even after they shouldn't.

This latter category would include all the "good people" we know who are insanely sanguine or "optimistic" that it will all work out.

Militia Jesu · « **Reply #6 on:** June 15, 2013, 08:33:47 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

If you'll excuse my optimism, I'm forced to conclude that "it could have been worse" without God's intervention/protection. Especially considering the magnitude of the willingness to betray and change the SSPX.

What if Pope Benedict XVI had signed the deal before he resigned?

I think if B16 had signed the deal back then we could still have 3 Bishops, a BIG chunk of priests of the SSPX and therefore a better position for a toe to toe fight against the liberals; but then again this is just my opinion.

At the same token God could care less about the toe measure, he'll give us the victory regardless... and that's comforting.

Zeitun · « **Reply #7 on:** June 16, 2013, 12:16:14 AM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

and yet he's the head of a Catholic Society of
truth -- how can this be?

Don't you see these things have to come to pass? Even the traditional movement will become withered like the fig tree.

Be assured that the Blessed Virgin will set all things right.

John Grace · « **Reply #8 on:** June 16, 2013, 03:39:53 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

And it's not just the number of "worldly" trads that allowed this to happen, but the greater number of IGNORANT and UNINFORMED trads, who never managed to learn what the SSPX is all about -- what Archbishop Lefebvre did, taught, and stood for.

These are the ones who keep trusting, even after they shouldn't.

This latter category would include all the "good people" we know who are insanely sanguine or "optimistic" that it will all work out.

I wouldn't regard her as "wordly" but yesterday I encountered a woman,who told me Bishop Fellay hasn't sold out nor will he ever sell out.

Given that she also attends the Indult from time to time, I find her statement remarkable.She fits the bill of what the neo sspx stands for

PatrickG · « **Reply #9 on:** June 16, 2013, 06:56:49 AM »

Utter self-delusion and a slow selling out to the Council? I really do think Bp. Fellay was offered to be another Cardinal Burke - scarlet cappa magna and no doctrine. The neo-SSPX will sate themselves on the beauty of the Mass of Ages but none of the substance.

It's surely a terrible time we live in when you might have the outward appearance of Tradition but no doctrine. The SSPX and the other little oysters toddling along beside the Roman Walrus and the Menzingen Carpenter will be helpless. Gobble gobble gobble. A Newmass to fit a Newsociety, but both without any doctrine whatever. The Modernists will inveigle traditionalists out of the shell by false concessions and then they've got us at their mercy.