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Bishop Fellay Back in Power (Kind of)
« on: July 20, 2018, 02:18:23 PM »
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    • From the SSPX’s official Twitter account:





    SSPX News: Society of St. Pius X

    @SSPXEN

    The General Chapter of the SSPX has elected two additional Assistants General to assist Fr. Davide Pagliarani: Bishop Bernard Fellay, former Superior General (1994-2018) and Father Franz Schmidberger, former Superior General (1982-1994).
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    Re: Bishop Fellay Back in Power (Kind of)
    « Reply #1 on: July 20, 2018, 02:32:30 PM »
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    • This will shatter all the hopes of those who think that Pagliarani means a turn for the SSPx
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    Please disregard everything I have said; I have tended to speak before fact checking.

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    Re: Bishop Fellay Back in Power (Kind of)
    « Reply #2 on: July 20, 2018, 02:39:20 PM »
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    • Suspicions confirmed.
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    Re: Bishop Fellay Back in Power (Kind of)
    « Reply #3 on: July 20, 2018, 02:43:38 PM »
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    • After all these years as an office worker, does +Fellay want to get his hands dirty by doing the REAL clerical work (ie flying around the world doing confirmations, teaching at seminaries, giving sermons)?  Of course not.  
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    Re: Bishop Fellay Back in Power (Kind of)
    « Reply #4 on: July 20, 2018, 02:45:49 PM »
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    • ABSOLUTELY back in power.
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    Re: Bishop Fellay Back in Power (Kind of)
    « Reply #5 on: July 20, 2018, 02:57:44 PM »
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    Re: Bishop Fellay Back in Power (Kind of)
    « Reply #6 on: July 20, 2018, 03:05:45 PM »
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    • Just more proof that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Will the Society be begging back in Rome next week? While +Fellay was the face of “we love Rome” Schmidberger was in the background advancing the cause. Plus +Galarreta was the first to jump back to +Fellay after the three bishops letter to +Fellay, and Bouchacourt is just a judaizied liberal. Pagliarani is just the “conservative” face so that it all looks well and good. The Society has truly played it hand, it’s clearly written on the wall and adding +Fellay and Fr Schmidberger to the “Argentine trio” shows CLEARLY and EXACTLY what we all knew the purpose of this Chapter was. Well played, Menzingen, now you’re all set, cap in hand to ask Francis to oh please, recognize us, we are all Catholics after all! 
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    Re: Bishop Fellay Back in Power (Kind of)
    « Reply #7 on: July 20, 2018, 03:37:19 PM »
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    • Lord have mercy.
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    Re: Bishop Fellay Back in Power (Kind of)
    « Reply #8 on: July 20, 2018, 03:58:52 PM »
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    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Bishop Fellay Back in Power (Kind of)
    « Reply #9 on: July 20, 2018, 04:03:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mega-fin on July 20, 2018, 03:05:45 PM
    Just more proof that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Will the Society be begging back in Rome next week? While +Fellay was the face of “we love Rome” Schmidberger was in the background advancing the cause. Plus +Galarreta was the first to jump back to +Fellay after the three bishops letter to +Fellay, and Bouchacourt is just a judaizied liberal. Pagliarani is just the “conservative” face so that it all looks well and good. The Society has truly played it hand, it’s clearly written on the wall and adding +Fellay and Fr Schmidberger to the “Argentine trio” shows CLEARLY and EXACTLY what we all knew the purpose of this Chapter was. Well played, Menzingen, now you’re all set, cap in hand to ask Francis to oh please, recognize us, we are all Catholics after all!

    If the SSPX was trying to portray Pagliarani as a "conservative face," it was a failed attempt from the beginning:

    His 2012 intervention at the General Chapter, as well as his past statements regarding an openness to a practical accord with unconverted Rome, made that impossible, except for those who wanted to be lied to about his advent representing a possible change of direction (meaning, those who only wanted to notice Bishop Fellay was gone, but not consider the qualities of the man who replaced him).

    The SSPX did not create and assign two new counselors, just so Pagliarani could ignore them (but as they are on the same page anyway, there is little risk of that).

    Now we only await the General Chapter Declaration for the whole mosaic to become a coherent picture.
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    Re: Bishop Fellay Back in Power (Kind of)
    « Reply #10 on: July 20, 2018, 04:36:04 PM »
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    • A new, and perhaps more articulate mouth piece. The puppeteer remains the same.
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    Re: Bishop Fellay Back in Power (Kind of)
    « Reply #11 on: July 20, 2018, 05:42:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: X on July 20, 2018, 02:18:23 PM
    From the SSPX’s official Twitter account:





    SSPX News: Society of St. Pius X

    @SSPXEN

    The General Chapter of the SSPX has elected two additional Assistants General to assist Fr. Davide Pagliarani: Bishop Bernard Fellay, former Superior General (1994-2018) and Father Franz Schmidberger, former Superior General (1982-1994).

    Seen at https://twitter.com/SSPXEN?lang=en
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    Re: Bishop Fellay Back in Power (Kind of)
    « Reply #12 on: July 20, 2018, 06:19:48 PM »
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    Re: Bishop Fellay Back in Power (Kind of)
    « Reply #13 on: July 20, 2018, 06:37:35 PM »
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    • Initial reactions from the French Resistance (which seem to be similar to observations/reactions made on the English-speaking fora/blogs):

    http://resistance.vraiforum.com/t661-Deux-nouveaux-conseillers.htm


    1) "Rita" says: "Thus surrounded, there is little chance that the new Superior General will change anything to the line followed since the year 2000."

    [True, but he wouldn't have wanted to anyway.  -X]


    2) "Mikael" says: "If some had some doubts about the new team, there are none anymore."


    3) "Joseph" posts the following explanation by "Ennemond" [who is actually Jacques Regis du Cray, unofficial lay apologist and spokesman of the SSPX, and producer of the sanitized Archbishop Lefebvre movie -X], regarding the creation of "Counselors" and the expansion of the General Counsel:

    "Ennemond explains the reason for these appointments: to ensure continuity (underlying the rallying) :


    Extended General Council by Ennemond 2018-07-20 21:37:48 Print

    The question of enlarging the General Council has already been debated in recent months. The Fraternity having reached 650 priests, this decision now seems logical. The General Council of the Fathers of the Holy Spirit, of which Bishop Lefebvre was the Superior General elected in 1962, was composed of six members, to try to represent the different nations composing the congregation.

    The function of "counselor" did not exist in the statutes of the Society of Saint Pius X. The capitulants must have defined the prerogatives of these councillors. Using the expression "additional general councillors", the communiqué does not seem to distinguish between assistants and councillors. In any case, the obvious choice to call upon the two former superiors general underlines a desire to ensure continuity.


    "Joseph:" Now all hope of a return to true brotherhood is truly dead."
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    Re: Bishop Fellay Back in Power (Kind of)
    « Reply #14 on: July 20, 2018, 07:39:41 PM »
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    • Is anyone surprised?
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