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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: Pilar on July 04, 2016, 07:49:48 PM
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Well many predicted a new crusade, but I doubt that anyone here will be able to find fault with the intentions of this one.
http://www.dici.org/en/news/bishop-fellay-announces-a-new-rosary-crusade/(http://null)
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So, another Rosary Crusade, huh? This new RC endeavor contains the following language from DICI:
"Besides the propagation of this devotion, we will also pray (II) for the triumph of the Immaculate Heart and (III) for the pope and all the bishops of the Catholic world to consecrate Russia to the Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary...
"The goal set by Bishop Bernard Fellay is a bouquet of 12 million rosaries and 50 million sacrifices for Our Lady of Fatima."
(source: FSSPX-MG DICI July 4, 2016)
Well, haven't we already been there and done that? You all recall Fellay's 3rd Rosary Crusade, specifically for the Consecration of Russia, don't you?
In a Letter to Friends and Benefactors, dated April 15, 2009, Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X, Bishop Bernard Fellay, included the following remarks by way of introduction to that letter’s major theme:
"It seems to us that the moment is come to launch a substantial offensive, deeply anchored in the message of Our Lady at Fatima, in which she herself promised the happy ending, for she announces that, in the end, her Immaculate Heart will triumph. It is this triumph that we ask her, by the means that she herself requests, the consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart by the Supreme Shepherd and all the bishops of the Catholic world, and the propagation of the devotion to her Dolorous and Immaculate Heart. It is for this that we wish to offer her, with this purpose, from now to March 25, 2010, a bouquet of 12 million Rosaries, …” (highlighting and emphasis added)
Well, the SG got his 12 mil. Rosaries and millions more, as well. Has Russia been conserated? I think not!
Note the reaction of the SG, in part, to questions posed to him by Brian Mershon in The Remnant of May 11, 2010;
"BM: Your Excellency. What is your reaction to the Society's request for 12 million rosaries with a result of more than 19 million?
BF: First of all, I am very, very happy to see such enthusiasm and such an answer to our call. I'm certain that this number isn't only from the Society's faithful; I'm sure that many many others have joined for whom we don't have the total figures. That's the first thing.
Secondly, I'm pleased with the enthusiasm for understanding the importance of this matter. This subject matter is very, very important.
The two other rosary crusades previously, delivered quick answers to the prayers — the freeing of the Traditional Latin Mass to all priests everywhere and the dissolving of the excommunications of the Society bishops, then the beginning of doctrinal talks. Do you expect such quick answers to prayers for the consecration of Russia with all of the bishops of the world from this third rosary crusade?
I leave it totally in the hands of God and the Blessed Virgin Mary.
But, probably not. One never knows, but I would be very surprised if the Pope consecrated Russia. It would be a great, great surprise. But we have already been surprised before, so I would not be amazed if that were to happen so quickly.
This time what we're asking for is so important and so big and it is so directly involved in all the events of the history of our times."
NB: If the first two crusades really resulted in the freeing up of the Old Mass and the lifting of the excommunications, then I, for one, feel we've been short changed. Our Lady doesn't short change her children. Nothing has changed that significantly in the NO church, IMO. In fact, it's gotten much worse.
As for the Consecration, it certainly has not occurred. nor, by his own admission, did +Fellay believe it would occur.
Now this man wants to involve what is left of his following in a 4th Rosary Crusade. He hasn't delivered really on any of the others. Why would people be so foolish as to fall for the SG's latest appeal? I think maybe a Rosary Crusade needs to be conducted for the release of thousands of sspx faithful from the grip of that organization, and for the lifting of the veil from their eyes.
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If it was a RC for the conversion of Rome, I would gladly participate...
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I will be participating. I'd love to say that I pray the Rosary daily, but truthfully, I only pray it a couple times a week. I can't see any problem with the intentions of the RC.
I'm sure that many will be able to pick it to pieces though. Encouraging people to pray the Rosary is NEVER a bad thing, IMO.
If you want to pray the Rosary, wear the Miraculous Medal, do the 1st 5 Saturdays, etc. and not participate in the RC, good for you. For me, I believe the RC will help me to stay focused. At least that has been true in the past.
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The two other rosary crusades previously, delivered quick answers to the prayers — the freeing of the Traditional Latin Mass to all priests everywhere and the dissolving of the excommunications of the Society bishops, then the beginning of doctrinal talks. Do you expect such quick answers to prayers for the consecration of Russia with all of the bishops of the world from this third rosary crusade?
All priests have always possessed the right to the "Approved and Received Rites" of the Church. Even JPII and his Commission of 8 Cardinals confirmed that: 1) Quo Primum had never been revoked. 2) All priests had the right to say the Traditional Roman Rite.
Of course, if the SSPX insists on using the 1962 missal which by the admission of Msgr. Bugnini was only a "transitional missal" which was only in effect for 2 1/2 years, you do need permission for that because Rome has made it clear by treating it as an indult. Summorum Pontificuм regulates it now for the purpose of controlling E.D. groups into bending the knee to the Novus Ordo (a "New Rite" forbidden by the Council of Trent) which even JPII never did.
Tough not SSPX, I would gladly participate in this RC had it been for the specific intention of "The Consecration of Russia as requested by O.L.F. and the Triumph of Her Immaculate Heart" because it would show that they are serious about the restoration of the Church and the message of O.L.F. As it is, it appears to be another self serving, damage control, mock (to O.L.) RC. +Fellay's ambiguity continues.
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MA:
As it is, it appears to be another self serving, damage control, mock (to O.L.) RC. +Fellay's ambiguity continues.
Yes, this SG mocks Our Lady by even suggesting that she would hold common cause with him and cooperate in yet another phony "Rosary Crusade" for the consecration of Russia. If the faithful go along with him, they get exactly what they deserve. +Fellay, IMO, is totally self serving.
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The 4th intention of the Rosary Crusade:
(IV) The protection of the Blessed Virgin Mary for the Society of St. Pius X
and all its members in addition to all the religious communities of Tradition.
may not do what Bishop Fellay wants.
1) It may prevent the SSPX from making an agreement with modernist Rome.
2) It may provide protection for religious communities of Tradition (including
resistance communities).
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May Our Lady bless all those who participate, that they may (finally!) see the lies of Fellay.
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Here's the text, which should have been posted by the OP:
At the priestly ordinations in Zaitzkofen (Germany) on July 2, 2016, Bishop Bernard Fellay, Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X, announced another Rosary Crusade as a spiritual preparation for the 100th anniversary of the apparitions of Our Lady of Fatima (May to October 1917).
This crusade will be held from August 15, 2016 to August 22, 2017.
It follows the intentions indicated by the Blessed Virgin herself:
(I) Jesus wishes to establish in the world the devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. In order to do so, all the faithful are invited: 1) to recite the rosary daily, alone or as a family; 2) to accomplish the devotion of the reparatory communion on five first Saturdays, and to multiply their daily sacrifices in a spirit of reparation for the outrages against Mary; 3) to wear the miraculous medal themselves and to diffuse it around them; 4) to consecrate their homes to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
Besides the propagation of this devotion, we will also pray:
(II) for the triumph of the Immaculate Heart and:
(III) for the pope and all the bishops of the Catholic world to consecrate Russia to the Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary.
And as a special intention we will add:
(IV) the protection of the Blessed Virgin Mary for the Society of St. Pius X and all its members in addition to all the religious communities of Tradition.
The goal set by Bishop Bernard Fellay is a bouquet of 12 million rosaries and 50 million sacrifices for Our Lady of Fatima.
(source: FSSPX-MG DICI July 4, 2016)
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Karl Stehlin
The Neo-SSPX's District Director in Asia, Karl Stehlin
Lets the Cat out of the Bag
http://www.traditio.com/comment/com1607.htm
Superior-Dictator Bernie Fellay Is Engineering Yet Another Subterfuge
Although Fellay Was Forced to Issue a Communique that He Does Not Want
"Canonical Recognition" by the Anti-Catholic Newchurch
In Fact He Is Working Behind the Scenes with His High-priced Advertising Firm
To Dupe the Neo-SSPXers with Sacrilege into Going Along with a Sellout to the Novus Ordo
Although the information hasn't penetrated into the West yet, we here in Asia have gotten a preview of what the duplicitous Bernie Fellay, Superior-Dictator of the Neo-SSPX, which has deserted Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre's original traditional Catholic principles, has up his sleeve. In order to advance his programme to sell out to the anti-Catholic Newchurch of the New Order and its Marxist Newpope, Francis-Bergoglio, he has resorted to a tactic that he has used before: sacrilege. In order to further his evil designs, Fellay has announced yet another fake "Rosary Crusade," daring to ensnare the Mother of God into his fraud.
This is what has just been announced to us here in Asia by Karl Stehlin, the Neo-SSPX's District Superior of Asia, in a "sermon" on July 3, 2016. You will notice that Neo-SSPX clergy, just like New Order clergy, do not talk about Our Lord, Our Lady, and the Saints in their "sermons," but about Neo-SSPX internal politics. That is no "sermon," but pure Newchurch nonsense!
Stehlin revealed that, contrary to Fellay's communique dated June 29, 2016, in which the Neo-SSPX was said not to desire "canonical recognition" from Newchurch, the Extraordinary Synod at Econe was actually ready to accept terms of a sellout. The only hang-up for the present is that some Newchurch leaders, including (apparently) Francis-Bergoglio, still want the Neo-SSPX to accept the Vatican II Anti-council (1962-1965). Thus, Stehlin revealed, Fellay determined to start a new P.R. campaign to serve the "branding operation," for which he paid so much of the Neo-SSPXer's collection-plates to a high-priced advertising firm, by trotting out the Blessed Virgin to play "mascot" for his scheme.
Fellay and Bergoglio are, however, reported to be scared out of their wits that their mendacious stratagem is being exposed on the internet by independent reports not associated with the Neo-SSPX or the Newchurch of the New Order. Therefore, Neo-SSPXers are being threatened with literal Hell if they dare to seek out the objective truth. This has been Fellay's ploy before. Fortunately, most Neo-SSPX members long ago ceased to pay any attention to his self-serving fulminations, and a goodly number of Neo-SSPXers think that because of his numerous frauds, he has already earned for himself a place in that infernal region.
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I don't really have a problem with a new rosary crusade, especially if it prompts people to actually say a rosary......but I think the intention should be in reparation for the Black Mass and Consumption of Mary to occur August 15 in Okolona.
Also, does everyone have such a hatred for the man Francis and the SSPX that you will belittle saying a few rosaries, even if you add your own intentions to them? Seems to me that we should stand together verses tearing everything apart....
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I don't really have a problem with a new rosary crusade, especially if it prompts people to actually say a rosary......but I think the intention should be in reparation for the Black Mass and Consumption of Mary to occur August 15 in Okolona. [Oklahoma?]
Also, does everyone have such a hatred for the man Francis and the SSPX that you will belittle saying a few rosaries, even if you add your own intentions to them? Seems to me that we should stand together verses tearing everything apart....
I don't have any problem with encouraging Catholics to pray the Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary (wouldn't it be nice to hear that said on the News instead of hearing "holy Koran" or "holy Ramadan?"), either.
Some of us need all the encouragement we can get.
And the stated intentions of this Crusade are just fine (whereas in previous rosary crusades of +Fellay, the wording has been compromised, so this is an improvement).
For example, he has managed to mention the Consecration of Russia by the Pope and all the bishops of the world. That's very good! However, no small amount of the negative reaction you see is due to sedevacantism which asserts that the present "Francis-Bergoglio" doesn't qualify for being pope, and most of his so-called bishops are invalidly consecrated so they're not really "bishops of the world" anymore. Consequently, they believe that any such consecration of Russia will be of no effect. Well, maybe we'll have to just wait and see, eh?
In any case, due to current events run amok worldwide, one might wonder if what the SSPX really needs is a Rosary Crusade to ask for God's grace for prudence (a topic which +Fellay has gone out of his way to pronounce repeatedly, but as if out of presumption) because one Fr. Vassal in Post Falls Idaho has recently displayed a severe LACK of same, when he hired a pornography writer and non-Catholic to teach his boys at the Academy there, which has resulted in several of the poor boys at the school committing the sin of Sodom.
And then there is this:
...You will notice that Neo-SSPX clergy, just like New Order clergy, do not talk about Our Lord, Our Lady, and the Saints in their "sermons," but about Neo-SSPX internal politics. That is no "sermon," but pure Newchurch nonsense!
I'd say that is something that needs prayers, too. It would also help if +Fellay would give good example to his priests by talking in his sermons about Our Lord, Our Lady, and the Saints, instead of taking the opportunity to talk Neo-SSPX internal politics.
Stehlin revealed that, contrary to Fellay's communique dated June 29, 2016, in which the Neo-SSPX was said not to desire "canonical recognition" from Newchurch, the Extraordinary Synod at Econe was actually ready to accept terms of a sellout.
It would also help if the priests of the SSPX would stop lying to their congregations, by saying that "everything is normal" and that +Fellay is somehow believable (even though he is lying, like Hillary Clinton).
The only hang-up for the present is that some Newchurch leaders, including (apparently) Francis-Bergoglio, still want the Neo-SSPX to accept the Vatican II Anti-council (1962-1965).
This is a biggie. Everything's fine, everything is normal, we're still fighting the good fight and we still oppose the errors of Vatican II (but then Newchurch murmurs quite the opposite -- whom are we to believe???)
Thus, Stehlin revealed, Fellay determined to start a new P.R. campaign to serve the "branding operation," for which he paid so much of the Neo-SSPXer's collection-plates to a high-priced advertising firm, by trotting out the Blessed Virgin to play "mascot" for his scheme.
Nor is this the first time. We are not surprised +F is doing this again, because he has done it several times before. A leopard doesn't change his spots!! And a zebra doesn't change his stripes!! And a man doesn't change his fingerprints!!
Fellay and Bergoglio are, however, reported to be scared out of their wits that their mendacious stratagem is being exposed on the internet by independent reports not associated with the Neo-SSPX or the Newchurch of the New Order.
Here! Here!
Their mendacious stratagem is being exposed.
You know, catholic, you had best take a step back and calmly take a look at the cold, hard facts. There is nefarious duplicity at work here, and it is our duty to recognize a mendacious strategem when we see it, lest we fall prey to its danger and deception.
But we can nonetheless pray to Our Lady for a miracle of grace. We should pray for our enemies, and ask God for their salvation, even while they torture us.
Now THAT'S Catholic!
Therefore, Neo-SSPXers are being threatened with literal Hell if they dare to seek out the objective truth. This has been Fellay's ploy before.
If it hadn't been his ploy before, we wouldn't be so apprised of its present danger, but since it HAS been his ploy before, it is not only naive but NEGLIGENT for any Catholic to stick his head in the sand and pretend it's not real.
Fortunately, most Neo-SSPX members long ago ceased to pay any attention to his self-serving fulminations, and a goodly number of Neo-SSPXers think that because of his numerous frauds, he has already earned for himself a place in that infernal region.
It is not our place to condemn anyone to hell, nor is it Catholic to wish hellfire on anyone. So in this I depart from the salacious screed of Traditio, above. However, it is worth our while to consider the truth of other things said therein.
By recognizing truth for what it is, we can have a sensible and well-founded grasp of reality which can hopefully prepare us for the turbulent times yet to come...............
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Also, does everyone have such a hatred for the man Francis and the SSPX that you will belittle saying a few rosaries, even if you add your own intentions to them? Seems to me that we should stand together verses tearing everything apart....
Sure, but do you really need a pompous Fellaysian decree to pray rosary?
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Very regrettable that they should say "the Consecration of Russia to the Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary", which Our Lady certainly never asked for. Theological objections can be made to putting these two adjectives together, as one refers to Our Lady's life on earth - the Seven Sorrows - and one to a now eternal and absolute privilege. The Immaculate Heart is not sorrowful in Heaven! Just as it would be wrong to refer to the "Suffering Sacred Heart".
After Cardinal Mercier had granted an indulgence for Belgium for the invocation "Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us", he wrote to Pope Pius X, asking him to grant a universal indulgence. He received a coldly worded refusal, with an implicit criticism of the Cardinal's own local indulgence. The Pope gave no reason, and Pius XI granted an indulgence after the First World War, but the apparent allocutions of Our Lord to Berthe Petit, from which this devotion originates, are certainly open to criticism, reflecting themes of unjustified anti-German propaganda found in the Belgian yellow press during WWI.
It's interesting that two organisations which consecrated themselves to the "Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary" both went into misfortune, the Blue Army of Fatima and the Little Pebble cult. The SSPX first consecrated itself to this in 1982 or 83, just at the time when Archbishop Lefebvre resigned as Superior General and the first moves seem to have been made towards the present disastrous policy.
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Very regrettable that they should say "the Consecration of Russia to the Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary", which Our Lady certainly never asked for. Theological objections can be made to putting these two adjectives together, as one refers to Our Lady's life on earth - the Seven Sorrows - and one to a now eternal and absolute privilege. The Immaculate Heart is not sorrowful in Heaven! Just as it would be wrong to refer to the "Suffering Sacred Heart".
After Cardinal Mercier had granted an indulgence for Belgium for the invocation "Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us", he wrote to Pope Pius X, asking him to grant a universal indulgence. He received a coldly worded refusal, with an implicit criticism of the Cardinal's own local indulgence. The Pope gave no reason, and Pius XI granted an indulgence after the First World War, but the apparent allocutions of Our Lord to Berthe Petit, from which this devotion originates, are certainly open to criticism, reflecting themes of unjustified anti-German propaganda found in the Belgian yellow press during WWI.
It's interesting that two organisations which consecrated themselves to the "Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary" both went into misfortune, the Blue Army of Fatima and the Little Pebble cult. The SSPX first consecrated itself to this in 1982 or 83, just at the time when Archbishop Lefebvre resigned as Superior General and the first moves seem to have been made towards the present disastrous policy.
Some years ago I came across a newsletter of one of the faculties of the University of Leuven (Louvain) in Belgium that praised Cardinal Mercier for his progressive ideas. No wonder Pope Pius X was cold towards him.
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"in the end my Sorrowful Heart will triumph..." :confused1:
Just like JP2 the bishops seek novelties and innovations. They simply will not comply with her request.
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There is a traditional Rosary Rally for all law enforcement tomorrow July 16 at 12 pm on the corner of rt 45 and rt 538 Mullica Hill New Jersey. (South hαɾɾιson township). If you are in the area, join us. It's going to be very hot. I'm probably going to bring water in a cooler for people.
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With so many sodomists, pedergasts, thieves and other demonic activity, there should be a Rosary Crusade to restore the whole Catholic Church back to Jesus Christ. Also needed is an exorcism too.
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Any religious who loves God wouldn't even question
Making vows to God of poverty, chastity and obedience.
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Very regrettable that they should say "the Consecration of Russia to the Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary", which Our Lady certainly never asked for. Theological objections can be made to putting these two adjectives together, as one refers to Our Lady's life on earth - the Seven Sorrows - and one to a now eternal and absolute privilege. The Immaculate Heart is not sorrowful in Heaven! Just as it would be wrong to refer to the "Suffering Sacred Heart".
After Cardinal Mercier had granted an indulgence for Belgium for the invocation "Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us", he wrote to Pope Pius X, asking him to grant a universal indulgence. He received a coldly worded refusal, with an implicit criticism of the Cardinal's own local indulgence. The Pope gave no reason, and Pius XI granted an indulgence after the First World War, but the apparent allocutions of Our Lord to Berthe Petit, from which this devotion originates, are certainly open to criticism, reflecting themes of unjustified anti-German propaganda found in the Belgian yellow press during WWI.
It's interesting that two organisations which consecrated themselves to the "Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary" both went into misfortune, the Blue Army of Fatima and the Little Pebble cult. The SSPX first consecrated itself to this in 1982 or 83, just at the time when Archbishop Lefebvre resigned as Superior General and the first moves seem to have been made towards the present disastrous policy.
I noticed this when I read it but wanted to see what others said since I really don't know anything about it, it just gave me pause since it isn't what Our Lady asked. Do you have links to this information? I have found some info on the private revelations related to it but not about St Pius X's rejection of it. Instead I read that he ratified the indulgences. Either way, it's still not what Our Lady asked at Fatima. I don't know why it seems so difficult to do exactly as she asked.
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Do you have links to this information? I have found some info on the private revelations related to it but not about St Pius X's rejection of it. Instead I read that he ratified the indulgences. Either way, it's still not what Our Lady asked at Fatima. I don't know why it seems so difficult to do exactly as she asked.
I was writing from memory last night, but I’ve now found the book, The Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary: Revelations of Jesus and Mary to Berthe Petit - A Belgian Mystic (1870-1943), republished by the SSPX, London, 2002. It was written by a French missionary priest in the 1950’s or 60’s and the translation has a US imprimatur of 1965.
Perhaps St. Pius X wasn’t being exactly cold in his letter of 1911 to Cardinal Mercier, but he certainly wasn’t encouraging. The book says:
In a letter to the Belgian Primate written with his own hand, the Sovereign Pontiff said in conclusion: "Your Eminence had exercised the privilege of granting 100 days’ indulgence to the ejaculation. I would ask that the pious lady be content with this for the present."
It wasn’t Pius XI but Benedict XV who granted an indulgence to the invocation, but it’s not clear from the book whether it was a local or universal one. There is no prayer to the 'Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart' in the Raccolta of Indulgenced Prayers of 1951, so if it was universal, it must have been suppressed by then. The Blue Army didn’t consecrate themselves to it, they just 'adopted the invocation'. It does seem that this devotion sank without trace after Fatima and the spread of Reparation to the Immaculate Heart, except in a few small circles, and it certainly comes entirely from the Berthe Petit allocutions.
These can be criticised from both a religious and historical point of view, but it would take a long analysis. One example: in 1917, Cardinal Bourne of Westminster, who caught Cardinal Mercier’s enthusiasm, consecrated England and the British Empire to the Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary. The voice attributes the Allied victory in WWI almost entirely to his actions. On October 17th, 1918:
Had I not intervened in answer to recourse to the Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of My Mother, and through the leading of My apostle Francis [Bourne], victory would have been on the side of [Germany and Austria].
So Our Lady is made responsible for the Balfour Declaration? And the banishment of Emperor Charles and the destruction of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, to which the Church had transferred the prerogatives of the Holy Roman Empire? Etc.
One more quote, from the Second World War, Nov. 1941, with the Germans still the absolute villains and no mention of Russia:
The chastisement is rumbling, the leaders [of Germany] feel it coming near, they dread it and they realize that they can do nothing to avert it. It is then that My judgment and the power of My Will shall be made known. My Work will never fall short of achievement. Belgium will again be prosperous. (My italics)
I can’t believe this is Our Lord speaking!
Could the whole thing be a fαℓѕє fℓαg by the Enemy to distract from Fatima?
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I love Fatima, but those who say Russia has not been consecrated
to the Immaculate Heart may be wrong. I believe they could very
well be wrong.
They always state it as a"fact" that Russia wasn't consecrated,
and this is disingenuous and arrogant, in my opinion.
https://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/FatimaConsecration.htm