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Re: Bishop Athanasius Schneider: 'Vatican II is Salvageable'
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2020, 02:09:51 PM »
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Thank you.  Schneider is another waste of time.  

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Re: Bishop Athanasius Schneider: 'Vatican II is Salvageable'
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2020, 02:20:29 PM »
This helps put into context +Vigano's rebuttal.

Archbishop Vigano was spot on.  It's not just a handful of statements, but the entire thing is contaminated and polluted.
Schneider is acutely aware of the audiences listening to this discussion between himself and Vigano, and he's highlighting the line between them for a specific audience (the R & R group) by quoting Archbishop Lefebvre. 

Vigano's response to this will be very important. Does he "apply the gas" and follow steadfastly to the conclusions his thought practically necessitates - a conclusion sympathetic to, if not agreeing outright with, the Sedevacantist position -, or does he "tap the brakes" and try to avoid the road unfolding before him, and disappointingly (in my view) abandon the journey toward confronting the anomalies (ahem!) presented by the ecuмenical council of V2 and Catholic doctrine regarding the papacy/Magisterium.   

The exchange between these two is the type of exchange by those with authority in the Conciliar Church that we've been waiting for.
 


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Re: Bishop Athanasius Schneider: 'Vatican II is Salvageable'
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2020, 02:26:43 PM »
Thank you.  Schneider is another waste of time.  
For those looking for something which the "hermeneutic of continuity" comes short of providing, we now have . . . Hermeneutic of Continuity Plus, giving the feeling of a bounce of energy, without any caffeine.  :laugh1: 

Re: Bishop Athanasius Schneider: 'Vatican II is Salvageable'
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2020, 02:32:20 PM »
Thank you.  Schneider is another waste of time.  
Yes.

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Re: Bishop Athanasius Schneider: 'Vatican II is Salvageable'
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2020, 02:50:34 PM »
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Schneider is acutely aware of the audiences listening to this discussion between himself and Vigano, and he's highlighting the line between them for a specific audience (the R & R group) by quoting Archbishop Lefebvre. 

Vigano's response to this will be very important. Does he "apply the gas" and follow steadfastly to the conclusions his thought practically necessitates - a conclusion sympathetic to, if not agreeing outright with, the Sedevacantist position -, or does he "tap the brakes" and try to avoid the road unfolding before him, and disappointingly (in my view) abandon the journey toward confronting the anomalies (ahem!) presented by the ecuмenical council of V2 and Catholic doctrine regarding the papacy/Magisterium.   

The exchange between these two is the type of exchange by those with authority in the Conciliar Church that we've been waiting for.

Great points.  Schneider's letter is as long-winded, contradictory and ambiguous as V2 itself.  The "positives" listed from V2 are a joke.  Then he repeatedly says that the council has many problems, but since it's not infallible, that it's not contradictory of Tradition.  Yet his conclusion is we must still have an "attitude of respect"?  Why?  For what purpose?  Schneider's logic is ridiculous.