Author Topic: Bishop (?) Pfeiffer to Ordain First Priests (?) (Read 6171 times)

SeanJohnson · « **on:** May 21, 2021, 07:16:19 AM »

Ordinations Our Lady Of Mount Carmel Boston Ky June 26, 2021
By pablothemexican | 2021/05/17

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #1 on:** May 21, 2021, 07:44:02 AM »

Aside from the question regarding the validity of Bishop Webster’s own episcopal consecration, there is the matter of the botched essential form (first discovered in the video by Ladislaus).

Fr. Pfeiffer then claimed Bishop Webster conditionally consecrated him shortly thereafter.

I called Bishop Webster to inquire about the veracity of this report, and he confirmed to me that he did in fact perform a conditional consecration.

Nevertheless, on the one hand, because no video of this conditional consecration has ever surfaced, we are put in the uncomfortable situation of having to accept their word for it.

Equally concerning, is the fact that the form was so badly botched in the first attempt, one can’t help wondering how well the form was repeated in the second attempt. One would think Pfeiffer and Assoc. would have him first practice it for the second attempt, but that is an assumption, and again, there is no record.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #2 on:** May 21, 2021, 08:08:05 AM »

Is there a consensus view amongst sedes regarding the validity of Webster’s ordination and consecration?

Ladislaus · « **Reply #3 on:** May 21, 2021, 08:28:51 AM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on May 21, 2021, 07:44:02 AM

Aside from the question regarding the validity of Bishop Webster’s own episcopal consecration, there is the matter of the botched essential form (first discovered in the video by Ladislaus).

Fr. Pfeiffer then claimed Bishop Webster conditionally consecrated him shortly thereafter.

I called Bishop Webster to inquire about the veracity of this report, and he confirmed to me that he did in fact perform a conditional consecration.

Nevertheless, on the one hand, because no video of this conditional consecration has ever surfaced, we are put in the uncomfortable situation of having to accept their word for it.

Equally concerning, is the fact that the form was so badly botched in the first attempt, one can’t help wondering how well the form was repeated in the second attempt. One would think Pfeiffer and Assoc. would have him first practice it for the second attempt, but that is an assumption, and again, there is no record.

Not only was the form so badly botched that Bishop Sanborn et al. reportedly called the consecration outright invalid, but Fr. Pfeiffer later justified the botched form, claiming it was valid. That makes his judgment highly suspect regarding the validity of the subsequent conditional. There's also the question of why not simply release the video if there are no new issues with it.

Unfortunately for these young men, I would have to consider their ordinations to be doubtful, and I would not seek the Sacraments from them unless they were the only available option in danger of death.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #4 on:** May 21, 2021, 08:33:09 AM »

There's also a bit of sketchiness with regard to Bishop Webster's lineage in the priesthood (through the Palmarians).

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