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Offline SeanJohnson

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Bishop(?) Pfeiffer’s 1st Mass Live NOW!
« on: August 01, 2020, 08:05:43 PM »
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    • Will there be a sermon??



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    Re: Bishop(?) Pfeiffer’s 1st Mass Live NOW!
    « Reply #1 on: August 01, 2020, 08:12:27 PM »
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    • Too late!  Darn!
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    Re: Bishop(?) Pfeiffer’s 1st Mass Live NOW!
    « Reply #2 on: August 02, 2020, 10:27:22 AM »
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    • I've only listened to about half of his sermon, and he's just rabidly attacking sedevacantism ... after having received episcopal consecration from a sedevacantist bishop.  Blabbering on about how the enemies are Francis are his enemies, and that he swore in his oath to go after all the enemies of Francis and his successors.

    What an unbelievable hypocrite.

    When the break happened in the U.S., those three seminarians who were secretly sympathetic with the rebellious priests got oradained and immediately left to join them, they were attacked for having "stolen" the priesthood.

    This is a clear case of +?Pfeiffer having stolen the episcopacy.  Just days after receiving consecration from a sedevacantist, he's brutally attacking sedevacantists (which include his bishop).

    There's no other word for this man than that he is a complete scuм.

    Somebody needs to alert Bishop Webster to this (some here are in contact with him) lest +?Pfeiffer go grovelling back for the conditional consecration.  Would serve him right for this to have been invalid.  I'm skeptical about whether a conditional consecration happened.
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    Re: Bishop(?) Pfeiffer’s 1st Mass Live NOW!
    « Reply #3 on: August 02, 2020, 10:32:59 AM »
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    • This is true regardless of whether you agree with sedevacantism or if you don't.

    If I sought out consecration from an R&R bishop, I would certainly be very respectful about how I discussed my disagreement with him about the subject, and would never viciously attack him in public.  Otherwise, I would not seek consecration from him in the first place.

    I know it was a matter of time before +?Pfeiffer turned on Bishop Webster.  He's turned on everyone else ... except for the untouchable Pablo.  I just didn't think it would happen this quickly.  Perhaps some of his cult followers are questioning him about why he'd seed consecration from a sedevacantist and a Feeneyite ... and he feels the need to do damage control.  I imagine that some of his followers have doubts about the +Thuc line also.
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    Re: Bishop(?) Pfeiffer’s 1st Mass Live NOW!
    « Reply #4 on: August 02, 2020, 10:33:43 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on August 02, 2020, 10:27:22 AM
    I've only listened to about half of his sermon, and he's just rabidly attacking sedevacantism ... after having received episcopal consecration from a sedevacantist bishop.  Blabbering on about how the enemies are Francis are his enemies, and that he swore in his oath to go after all the enemies of Francis and his successors.

    What an unbelievable hypocrite.

    When the break happened in the U.S., those three seminarians who were secretly sympathetic with the rebellious priests got oradained and immediately left to join them, they were attacked for having "stolen" the priesthood.

    This is a clear case of +?Pfeiffer having stolen the episcopacy.  Just days after receiving consecration from a sedevacantist, he's brutally attacking sedevacantists (which include his bishop).

    There's no other word for this man than that he is a complete scuм.

    Somebody needs to alert Bishop Webster to this (some here are in contact with him) lest +?Pfeiffer go grovelling back for the conditional consecration.  Would serve him right for this to have been invalid.  I'm skeptical about whether a conditional consecration happened.

    Someone should call Webster and ask if there was a conditional consecration.

    If anyone can get me his phone number, I will do it.
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    Re: Bishop(?) Pfeiffer’s 1st Mass Live NOW!
    « Reply #5 on: August 02, 2020, 10:35:48 AM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on August 02, 2020, 10:33:43 AM
    Someone should call Webster and ask if there was a conditional consecration.

    If anyone can get me his phone number, I will do it.

    I PMed someone here who is in contact with him.  We should ask him if he did indeed conditionally re-consecrate +?Pfeiffer and inform him that +?Pfeiffer is as we speak rabidly attacking sedevacantism during a sermon.
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    Re: Bishop(?) Pfeiffer’s 1st Mass Live NOW!
    « Reply #6 on: August 02, 2020, 11:09:50 AM »
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    • I have been invited on several occasions throughout the years to Masses said by Fr Pfeiffer. I can't explain why, but I have always been reluctant to assist long before this recent fiasco took place. It never "felt" right. Perhaps it was my Guardian Angel. But I am glad I never did. 
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    Re: Bishop(?) Pfeiffer’s 1st Mass Live NOW!
    « Reply #7 on: August 02, 2020, 11:13:02 AM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on August 02, 2020, 10:33:43 AM
    Someone should call Webster and ask if there was a conditional consecration.

    If anyone can get me his phone number, I will do it.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/bp-neal-webster/msg709335/#msg709335
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    Yes he is. You can call him at (865) 693-1889.
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    Re: Bishop(?) Pfeiffer’s 1st Mass Live NOW!
    « Reply #8 on: August 02, 2020, 11:14:00 AM »
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    • Quote from: LeDeg on August 02, 2020, 11:09:50 AM
    I have been invited on several occasions throughout the years to Masses said by Fr Pfeiffer. I can't explain why, but I have always been reluctant to assist long before this recent fiasco took place. It never "felt" right. Perhaps it was my Guardian Angel. But I am glad I never did.
    Definitely your guardian angel!
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    Re: Bishop(?) Pfeiffer’s 1st Mass Live NOW!
    « Reply #9 on: August 02, 2020, 11:15:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on August 02, 2020, 10:27:22 AM
    I've only listened to about half of his sermon, and he's just rabidly attacking sedevacantism ... after having received episcopal consecration from a sedevacantist bishop.  Blabbering on about how the enemies are Francis are his enemies, and that he swore in his oath to go after all the enemies of Francis and his successors.

    What an unbelievable hypocrite.

    When the break happened in the U.S., those three seminarians who were secretly sympathetic with the rebellious priests got oradained and immediately left to join them, they were attacked for having "stolen" the priesthood.

    This is a clear case of +?Pfeiffer having stolen the episcopacy.  Just days after receiving consecration from a sedevacantist, he's brutally attacking sedevacantists (which include his bishop).

    There's no other word for this man than that he is a complete scuм.

    Somebody needs to alert Bishop Webster to this (some here are in contact with him) lest +?Pfeiffer go grovelling back for the conditional consecration.  Would serve him right for this to have been invalid.  I'm skeptical about whether a conditional consecration happened.
    Fr. Pfeiffer will do whatever he must to attain his goals.
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    His motto is and has always been:
    The end justifies the means.
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    Re: Bishop(?) Pfeiffer’s 1st Mass Live NOW!
    « Reply #10 on: August 02, 2020, 12:15:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: Venantius0518 on August 02, 2020, 11:13:02 AM
    https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/bp-neal-webster/msg709335/#msg709335
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    Yes he is. You can call him at (865) 693-1889.
    Thank you.  Is there also an email?  Might be best to get a response in writing.  If I get a denial from Webster, it might not be believed (ie., they will say I am hostile to Ofeiffer and making it up).
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    Re: Bishop(?) Pfeiffer’s 1st Mass Live NOW!
    « Reply #11 on: August 02, 2020, 01:15:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on August 02, 2020, 12:15:34 PM
    Thank you.  Is there also an email?  Might be best to get a response in writing.  If I get a denial from Webster, it might not be believed (ie., they will say I am hostile to Ofeiffer and making it up).

    Call him to just ask for the email.
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    Re: Bishop(?) Pfeiffer’s 1st Mass Live NOW!
    « Reply #12 on: August 02, 2020, 01:36:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: Struthio on August 02, 2020, 01:15:21 PM
    Call him to just ask for the email.

    Called and nobody answered, which is just as well, as I would prefer the response to be in writing.

    Found a March/2018 Trad Forum thread (http://thetradforum.com/index.php?topic=318.0), which in turn references the Lux Vera website (as it then existed), which apparently listed Webster's email address.

    However, the Lux Vera website was updated in July 2020, and no longer shows Webster's email address.

    Does that mean it has changed, or just that Webster didn't want it shown publicly?

    In any case, I used the email address shown on the Trad Forum link above, and requested a response as to whether of not Pfeiffer was conditionally consecrated.

    That was about 20 minutes ago, and the email did not bounce back, so it must have gone through (i.e., the email address is still active).

    If I get a response, I will post it.

    If I don't get a response in a weeks' time, I will call him.
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    Re: Bishop(?) Pfeiffer’s 1st Mass Live NOW!
    « Reply #13 on: August 02, 2020, 02:11:38 PM »
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    • I watched some of the video and I immediately noticed that the mass was held in what looked like a warehouse.

    Some parts of the video if you look closer, "Bishop" Pfeiffer looks like he is next to a kitchen on the right side of that building. This whole thing is a joke. It's like a stand up comedian doing Mass. This is very scary stuff.

    He also does an Oath to Pope Francis. This is a fever dream.  :facepalm:
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    Re: Bishop(?) Pfeiffer’s 1st Mass Live NOW!
    « Reply #14 on: August 02, 2020, 02:16:16 PM »
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    • It says a lot that we can’t simply take +?Pfeiffer’s word for it that he was conditionally consecrated. If someone like, say, a Fr. Chazal, said this, I would be satisfied.
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