I was hoping that you would weigh in, Cassini. Thank you for your explanation of Gerry's reticence on the theological side of Forlorn's comments. I vaguely remember this reasoning, whether from Gerry himself or from you, I don't recall.

Please see some demonstrably baneful effects of the false theory of evolution on Faith and Morals. What is true cannot bear evil fruits.

"So baneful has been the effect of teaching evolution as a proven hypothesis, that multitudes have been led into infidelity and atheism. Prof. James H. Leuba, of Bryn Mawr College, Pa. sent a questionnaire to 1000 of the most prominent scientists teaching sciences relating to evolution. The replies indicate that more than one-half do not believe in a personal God, nor the immortality of the soul--beliefs almost universal even in the heathen world. So pernicious is this doctrine of evolution that more than one-half of the professors who teach it and kindred subjects, are infidels and atheists and farther from God than the ignorant heathen ... A doctrine so abhorrent to the conscience, so contrary to the well nigh universal belief, and so fruitful of evil, certainly can not be true. Small wonder is it that students are fast becoming infidels and atheists, and we shudder as we think of the coming generation [written in 1920. Can someone say this hasn't really happened today]. A great responsibility rests upon the authorities who employ such teachers. The answers of the students in seven large representative colleges and universities to Prof. Leuba's questionnaire, show that while only 15% of the Freshmen have abandoned the Christian religion, 30% of the Juniors and over 40% of the Seniors have abandoned the Christian faith. Note the steady and rapid growth of infidelity and atheism as a result of this pernicious theory ... Most of the writers who advocated evolution became atheists or infidels; most of the professors who teach it, believe neither in God nor the immortality of the soul; and the number of students discarding Christianity rose from 15% in the Freshman year to 40% in the Senior. What more proof is needed?"

This book by Williams written around 1920 also exposes the hoax that was "Piltdown Man" which deceived evolutionists (assuming many of them were not deceivers themselves) for 40 years as a "missing link". It was a fraud. After 1953, this was admitted by all.

Another two simple disproofs of evolution are (1) the extraordinary number of missing intermediate forms. If thousands and millions of apes allegedly gave birth and evolved to thousands and millions of men over millions of years, we would find millions upon millions of intermediate ape-men. This is how Williams knew Piltdown man was a fraud, "There are countless relics of apes, but none of ape-men. Even Wells says: "At a great open-air camp at Solutre, where they seem to have had annual gatherings for many centuries, it is estimated there are the bones of 100,000 horses." Would we not expect as many bones of ape-men? While Wells says the bones of 100,000 horses were found in a single locality, Dr. Ales Hrdlicka says that the bones of 200,000 prehistoric horses were found in another place. Why should we not find, for the same reason, the bones of millions of ape-men and ape-women in 750,000 years? Instead of mullions we have the alleged fragments of 4, all of which are of a very doubtful character."

And (2) The example of living fossils, which shows evolution either will not take place even in the supposed millions and billions of years timeframe, which means the whole sorry theory is moot anyway. Or that the millions of years never passed, and Genesis stands. A more detailed examination of Living Fossils can be read here: https://creation.com/werner-living-fossils

Those who are interested can consult "Evolution: A Theory in Crisis" and its recently updated follow up "Evolution: Still a Theory in Crisis" by British Australian Bio Chemist Prof. Michael Denton. Prof. Denton is more an ID type than a young earth Creation Scientist.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/633004.Evolution But his book on evolution is a thorough demonstration of its utter falsity.

Please see some demonstrably baneful effects of the false theory of evolution on Faith and Morals. What is true cannot bear evil fruits.

What does this say about "Baptism of Desire", the chief fruit of which is religious indifferentism?

1991 version or updated and expanded 1999 version?

1991. Does it really matter?

I was hoping that you would weigh in, Cassini. Thank you for your explanation of Gerry's reticence on the theological side of Forlorn's comments. I vaguely remember this reasoning, whether from Gerry himself or from you, I don't recall.

Indeed Nadir. I took out Gerry's 1991 300-page edition this morning to read.
 
At the moment I am on day 13 after having had my two knees replaced. Swelling, pain and discomfort 24 hours a day. I am best walking around, its when one sits down that the cementing takes place.

Anyway, Gerry's book covers every aspect of evolution one could think of as a student or Catholic. He introduced me to Gentry's book and it does challenge those 'proofs' for long ages claimed by the evolutionists. I will let Gentry argue his point.

As I read through I came across 'planet Earth,' the first evolution theory (the Nebular theory-1735-96) Gerry was told by me to avoid in his book. This of course led on to his description of the Galileo case when he wrote his chapter on The Sense of Scripture. Poor Gerry hadn't a clue and regurgitated the usual tripe that the Church banned the helio system until it could be proven. he hail;s the 'scholars Kepler and Isaac Newton. he then quotes the humanist koestler saying the 1616 decree was 'a judicial opinion, without papal endorsement.' Knowing nothing about the Holy Office at the time, he did not refer to Bellarmine telling Galileo that 'on order by the Pope' stop spreading heresy. He ends by saying Pope urban VIII 'was not directly involved in the trial of Galileo. In fact Urban VIII directed every move of the Inquisition during Galileo's trial.

As I said, you cannot write a book or give a lecture on evolution and creation without taking in the influence of the Galileo U-turn of 1741-1835 on the matter.Gerry did as much to promote heliocentrism as anyone, but in his case, while trying to dismiss evolution, shot himself in the foot.

I recall having a similar problem with the Kolbe Center, like Gerry, thinking that geocentrism would undermine their efforts to protect literal creation and their anti-evolution efforts. Thankfully Hugh saw the problem and accepted geo but did not make it part of their ongoing programme.

The SSPX I believe, take the Oath against Modernism.

In 1910 Pope Saint Pius X, in an effort to prevent further evolution of Catholic dogmas and teachings, introduced by way of motu proprio the ‘Oath against Modernism,’ to be sworn by all clergy, pastors, confessors, preachers, religious superiors, and professors in philosophical-theological seminaries. Hereunder a few selected paragraphs .


Any yet they tolerate the likes of Fr Robinson and Fr Laisney denying the geocentrism all the Fathers (and I am sure DOCTOR'S) upheld as revealed in Scripture and papal decree of 1616.