I got a PM today, "They are starting a slander campaign on Bishop Faure. I got the same in an email. It is a group of sedes that are linked to the TECOS (masons). They have been slandering Bishop Faure in the vilest of ways for decades."

Other priests and laymen like to attack Bishop Williamson.

We know that various enemies have attacked Archbishop Lefebvre over the years and decades. Mostly Sedevacantists who were frustrated/annoyed/angry that he wouldn't join them. Or maybe they disliked the "competition" from the SSPX he founded.

We've even seen Fr. Pfeiffer/Pablo (who is supposed to be part of the Resistance) attacking Bishop Williamson, as well as Fr. Zendejas.

Just because someone is attacked doesn't mean they are guilty of what is alleged. Human beings are capable of rotten-old sin -- as well as slander (lies calculated to damage the reputation of another).

Just remember, God Himself experienced slander and hatred, even though He was Goodness itself and The Perfect Man.

All I know is this -- if we don't develop some thick skin for these priests/bishops, or the prudence/wisdom to be able to discern lies from truth, we would have to necessarily end up sitting home alone on Sunday. Because no priest is magically exempt from receiving slander, or having enemies. Having enemies doesn't make you evil, controversial, non-spiritual, imperfect, or anything like that. The greatest of saints, and Our Lord Himself, had enemies.

In other words, it is logical, and expected that any priest will have SOME enemies out there hating him. And what does an enemy do? Post about the good works the priest is doing? Of course not. If there is no dirt on this priest, of course the enemy will make some up. For an enemy consumed with hatred, the ends justify the means.

Have you heard the expression "blinded by hatred"? Hatred does blind you.

Have you ever seen the comic strip joking about how all food is bad for you? Meat? heart disease. Fish? mercury. Vegetables? pesticides. Fruits? excessive sugars lead to diabetes. Grains? Too many carbs; grains are bad for you. And so forth.

If you just took everything you read at face value and ran with it, you'd have to end up starving to death. Obviously you have to weigh the information, take it in context, take it with a grain of salt, keep your mind on the big picture, etc.

I am not following any man in this battle, they all can fall. I weigh every accusation carefully in order to discern heavenly warnings from diabolical distractions.

However, I am very intrigued that a fresh wave of accusations are being hurled at certain members of the European resistance at the same time Boston has had it's little run with bishop Ambrose.

I smell smoke.

t is a group of sedes that are linked to the TECOS (masons)

Isn't the group in Mexico that Paul Hernandez is connected with and from whom some think Fr Pfeiffer gets some funds? That would explain why a pfeifferite elsewhere is giving some credence to the attack on Bishop Faure and attacking his seminary.

Anyone who can, go and visit Bishop Faure yourself when he is in Canada and USA, and draw your own conclusions. He is a good and holy bishop hand-picked by Archbishop Lefebvre.

Please do not post such unfounded speculation. That is not wise, not is it Catholic to do so.

Agreed.  That is far more speculative than the original accusations under discussion here.

Somebody sent me this just now...hard to come by these things.  After reading, I think you might know why...

CAL was the organizational expression of a little-known group of Mexican neo-nαzιs, the Tecos or "owls," centered at the Autonomous University of Guadalajara. Founded by Third Reich collaborator Carlos Cuesta Gallardo, the Tecos have created several anti-communist front groups which include the Mexican Anti-Communist Federation (FEMACO) and the Inter-American Confederation of Continental Defense (IACCD). These "men of action" were drawn from the ranks of the Mexican secret police, military officers, wealthy landowners and industrialists.

Tecos leader, Raimundo Guerrero, was recruited into the organization by Gallardo. According to Anderson and Anderson, the Tecos have close links with the remnants of the Romanian Iron Guard fascists of Horia Sima in Spain. The group publishes the anti-Semitic magazine, Replica. Serving as a liaison among right-wing death squads throughout Latin America, the Tecos joined WACL in 1972. But the Tecos are more than a collection of aging nαzιs; investigative journalist Manuel Buendia, was αssαssιnαtҽd in Mexico City after publishing a three-part series exposing "Los Tecos" in 1984. (ibid.)

http://www.refworld.org/docid/3ae6aaab20.html

I read it too, and it sounds like a man who has an axe to grind against Bishop Faure, despite all the flowery language.

Oh yes, he dresses it up real nice, with random footnotes all over the place. He says all the right things, copy-pasted out of the Lives of the Saints -- anyone can do that. He probably spent a lot of time fine-tuning and putting the final polish on this hit piece. Everything he says though is unsubstantiated hearsay, all of which (conveniently) can't be proven.

EDIT: And a lot of it is quite easily DISproven. See the post on the next page by CentroAmerica talking about Algerian Jєωs. It's a fact that Bp. Faure is of French descent, and his physical features bear that out.

Of course you'll also note Fr. Juan (the author of the hit piece) says *nothing* about the present day. He doesn't extend his arms and say, "Just look! Need I say anything?" about Bp. Faure's actions and behavior today. That's because there is nothing at all to criticize, much less reproach +Faure with.

In other words, look at the facts: +Faure is opposing modernism, the new direction of the SSPX, he isn't fighting with fellow Resisters or causing any black eyes or strife (hurting the Resistance cause), he is running a seminary to form the next generation of Traditional Catholic priests, he is about to go on a 3 week trip in North America to give conferences and administer Confirmations to all those who need them. Doesn't sound like a destroyer to me.

Even the "two others" who supposedly were with Fr. Juan (the PDF's author) on this, aren't saying anything, to the present day! Fr. Juan even admits this in his letter. He "adjures" them to come forward, but for some reason they're not coming forward. What, are they not in love with Holy Mother Church like he is? Maybe because they aren't willing to perjure themselves, along with him?

I like how he came up with an excuse why he didn't say anything until now. We're talking 30 years! Again, "how convenient".

Where has this man been until now "for the good of Holy Mother Church"? He waited until the Resistance was in the early, vulnerable stages to strike another public blow at Bishop Faure? My suspicions are high about this one.

I think CentroAmerica, who knows more about he situation in South America since he lives there, is dead-on about this one. The sedevacantists, masons, etc., would have a lot to gain by hitting their "competition" when they're down like this. Basically they want to nip the Resistance in the bud. Few people have even met Bishop Faure yet. They're shrewd little devils, I'll give them that.

And I'll point out again: Bishop Faure is about to go on a huge 3-week tour of North America, stopping at many places for Mass, conference and/or Confirmations. Wouldn't they love to poison the well before this trip and see if they can't just stop a bunch of people from going -- and getting to know the REAL Bishop Faure (the devout, excellent bishop defending Tradition)!

We have to take this fancy little PDF *in context* of everything else we already know. It's only part of the big picture.

I this case, I think it's much more likely that this unknown priest is a bad guy, than that Bishop Faure is a bad guy.

Quote from: cebu

Mr Dougherty,

I am willing to be corrected and then apologise, so please do ask Fr Pfeiffer whether he has had any connection with this group. You can try with Paul H as well, but I doubt whether he can be objective.

Thanks

C.

You don't accuse someone without evidence, and then demand that they prove themselves innocent of your unfounded accusations before you apologize for your unfounded accusation.

I am not going to ask such a ridiculous question.

You owe them an apology.

Let's not derail this thread about Kentucky.  I'm sure that this was considered as collateral damage in this case.  However, let me say that even though I don't believe that they had anything to do with this, their desperateness to find a bishop doesn't exclude them from getting in contact with this group.  But that is an entirely different story.

Let me also state that I did work with a person from Algeria this time last year, a non-practicing Mohameddan.  I mentioned to him that the visiting priest was a "pied noir".  This is even affirmed in the pdf. that Bishop Faure is a pied noir.  That means he is of French descent...not Jєωιѕн!  When I mentioned to my non-Catholic co-worker (who even expressed interest in attending the chapel to meet Fr. Faure) that the then Fr. Faure told me that they accused his father of being a Jєω (we both shared a similar view regarding zionism) he asked to see a picture.  I showed him the picture of my wife and I with the then Fr. Faure and he quickly pointed out how ridiculous a rumor that would be.  Bishop Faure is of unquestionable French descent.  Any Algerian would quickly come to that conclusion.  The Jєωs in Algeria do not speak French and are darker in skin color and have prominent noses.  If he was of Jєωιѕн/Algerian descent it would be more than evident.  Also, one should take a look at the bio of Bishop Faure. He fled with his family from Algeria because of the government and Catholic persecutions.  The Jєωs did not flee as far as I know.

I think that the author of the pdf docuмent is insulting everyone's intelligence with these silly claims.  To insult the dead is even worse.  May God have mercy on his soul.

Also, it is very difficult to find anything ever about the Tecos or the Yunque, but this is clearly connected to them.

We don't know anything about them, but this is CLEARLY their work.

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