Author Topic: SSPX-Rome Deal coming this Friday 6-15-12 (Read 5466 times)

magdalena · « **Reply #15 on:** June 12, 2012, 06:52:08 PM »

Quote from: catherineofsiena

Quote from: CJH
I hope so, the Church needs the SSPX.

Could you explain how the SSPX is going to help the Church when it enters with both hands tied behind its back?

(IOW, one of the acknowledged conditions is the diocesan bishop must give permission for the Society to establish in the diocese, a rule that is killing the FSSP).

This recognition isn't about bringing Tradition to the Church. It's about destroying it in order to usher in the hybrid Mass and theology, aka, the Hegalian Third Way.

And once the Neo-SSPX becomes, in effect, the "Society of 'Blessed' John XXIII," the expelled, but true, SSPX can recover their rightful name. It will only make sense, because the Neo-SSPX will then have de Lubac, von Balthasar, Blondel, et al, on their seminary shelves, and +Lefebvre will be relegated to the "hell" shelf, as they so euphemistically put it. Of course, I hope this doesn't happen. But it doesn't look good. Kyrie Eleison.

Cristera · « **Reply #16 on:** June 12, 2012, 06:53:06 PM »

From Radio Cristiandad:

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The report of Father Michel Koller in his sermon on Sunday 10, together with many other information coming from everywhere, confirmed the imminent signing of a practical agreement between the Rome and Bishop Bernard Fellay, to give a canonical status to the SSPX.

This signature will be the climax of the operation ѕυιcιdє of the Work of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.

Radio Cristiandad is able to announce that Bishop Fellay and his two assistants, Father Pfluger and Nely, have been summoned to Rome, and will be there tomorrow, Wednesday June 13.

Radio Cristiandad

catherineofsiena · « **Reply #17 on:** June 12, 2012, 06:59:14 PM »

Quote from: magdalena

And once the Neo-SSPX becomes, in effect, the "Society of 'Blessed' John XXIII,"

I don't know whether to laugh or cry because the name makes perfect sense!

Domitilla · « **Reply #18 on:** June 12, 2012, 07:27:10 PM »

Cristera, thank you for the latest report. June 13th is a very interesting date as it the anniversary of the second apparition of Our Lady of Fatima and the Feast Day of St. Anthony of Padua, the Hammer of Heretics.

During the second apparition, Our Lady remarked to Lucy: "...are you suffering a great deal? Don't lose heart, I will never forsake you. My Immaculate Heart will be your refuge and the way that will lead you to God."

A very beautiful and timely message for those of us who only wish to keep the whole and entire True Faith of Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

Our Lady of Fatima, please pray for us. St. Anthony, please pray for us.

JPaul · « **Reply #19 on:** June 12, 2012, 10:10:21 PM »

Remember Brethren,

If this "deal" does indeed happen, It could not be unless it has the approval of the Jєωιѕн authorities in the Vatican. This Pope would not move forward on this unless it was so. Think about that, and what it means.

Bishop Fellay has a Zionist agent as his closest advisor. Other collaborators have been informing them of the substance of resistance on these forums.
Prepare for the Society of St. Nostra Aetate.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #20 on:** June 12, 2012, 10:21:22 PM »

Quote from: catherineofsiena

Quote from: magdalena

And once the Neo-SSPX becomes, in effect, the "Society of 'Blessed' John XXIII,"

I don't know whether to laugh or cry because the name makes perfect sense!

If I didn't know better, I'd think it was a sick joke. But remember how that happened? It was on the occasion of the beatification of Pope Pius IX, who gave us the Syllabus of Errors and Vatican I and the dogmatic definition of the Immaculate Coception -- THAT Pius IX -- it was on the occasion of his beatification that the infamous John XXIII of infalicitous memory (words of Canon Gregory Hesse, whom I heard in person say them) was named "blessed" as well.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry because the name makes perfect sense! ------- wait, you already said that. Took the words right out of my mouth!

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #21 on:** June 12, 2012, 11:29:08 PM »

Quote from: tradcath72

Friday is Ordination Day at St Thomas Aquinas Seminary. Bishop T will be there for the ordinations. 8 more priests for us.

So why announce this day??

Friday June 15th is the Feast of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, Double of the First Class. So why announce this day?

I'm looking at the calendar and can't find another day that would be a greater insult to Our Lord or to Tradition, to announce this dirty deed.

catherineofsiena · « **Reply #22 on:** June 12, 2012, 11:39:49 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: tradcath72
Friday is Ordination Day at St Thomas Aquinas Seminary. Bishop T will be there for the ordinations. 8 more priests for us.

So why announce this day??

Friday June 15th is the Feast of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, Double of the First Class. So why announce this day?

I'm looking at the calendar and can't find another day that would be a greater insult to Our Lord or to Tradition, to announce this dirty deed.

Exactly.

Some public act of unity or deference to VII Rome will be required of the Society leadership, soon, if history repeats itself as it did with the other trad organizations.

Maybe the feast of SS Peter and Paul on the 29th or worse, the feast of Pope St. Pius X in September.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #23 on:** June 13, 2012, 04:50:08 AM »

According to Radio Cristiandad, +Bishop Fellay and his two assistants were urgently called to Rome, they are there this morning, Wednesday, June 13th.

Clemens Maria · « **Reply #24 on:** June 13, 2012, 01:25:30 PM »

From Rorate-Caeli:

[1950 Rome time - Update] "The response of Benedict XVI to the 'Lefebvrists' not to be known before the weekend." "Bp. Fellay will have some days to put his signature on the text" (SSPX spokesman Fr. Lorans, to Agence France Presse - LB2S Twitter feed (La Croix religion journalist) Lorans added that "it will be a week-10 days before further moves, today was just a step in the process" (A.Speciale Twitter feed)

Incredulous · « **Reply #25 on:** June 13, 2012, 01:47:59 PM »

Quote from: magdalena

Quote from: catherineofsiena
Quote from: CJH
I hope so, the Church needs the SSPX.

Could you explain how the SSPX is going to help the Church when it enters with both hands tied behind its back?

(IOW, one of the acknowledged conditions is the diocesan bishop must give permission for the Society to establish in the diocese, a rule that is killing the FSSP).

This recognition isn't about bringing Tradition to the Church. It's about destroying it in order to usher in the hybrid Mass and theology, aka, the Hegalian Third Way.

And once the Neo-SSPX becomes, in effect, the "Society of 'Blessed' John XXIII," the expelled, but true, SSPX can recover their rightful name. It will only make sense, because the Neo-SSPX will then have de Lubac, von Balthasar, Blondel, et al, on their seminary shelves, and +Lefebvre will be relegated to the "hell" shelf, as they so euphemistically put it. Of course, I hope this doesn't happen. But it doesn't look good. Kyrie Eleison.

Magdalena... I agree with you.

The true SSPX needs to be purged.

The neo-SSPX can follow the Judas character, Bp. Fellay, to join Rome.

They will try to strip us of the Chapels that we built and supported for the last 42
years. The spirit of the SSPX has to be retained and reformed to keep fighting the battle.

Let the Cristeros be our model... Viva Cristo Rey!!!