Author Topic: Bergoglios Revolution: Six Key Points (Read 2595 times)

Cantarella · « **on:** November 22, 2013, 12:49:55 AM »

Bergoglio’s Revolution: Six Key Points
by Rev. Anthony Cekada

1. Diminish the Papacy
2. Empower Bishops’ Synods as Engines of Revolution
3. Use Dialogue and Consultation to Undermine Moral Principles
4. Undermine the Certitude of the Magisterium’s Teachings
5. Throw the Occasional Bone to “the Right”
6. Bless Divorce by Raising the Bar for Matrimonial Consent

Read more:
http://www.fathercekada.com/2013/11/21/bergoglios-revolution-all-according-to-plan/

Cantarella · « **Reply #1 on:** November 22, 2013, 12:53:32 AM »

Nothing good can possibly come since Vatican II.

*Sigh*

Notice #5. "Throw the Occasional Bone to “the Right”" and be not deceived.

By their fruits you shall know them Matthew 7:16

For a good tree brings not forth corrupt fruit; neither does a corrupt Luke 6:43-45

Incredulous · « **Reply #2 on:** November 22, 2013, 12:59:33 AM »

Yep... it's hard to disagree young lady. :detective:

Wessex · « **Reply #3 on:** November 22, 2013, 03:49:40 AM »

I can link Point 3 about dialogue to comments on conservative sites hoping that the SSPX will continue talking to Rome and resolve its differences. There is this idea that the Council can be interpreted in a way that satisfies all parties and that the Society is positioning itself along these lines. You end up with a church where moral flexibility is key and where there is an inbuilt tendency to follow social norms, leading to her irrelevancy.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #4 on:** November 22, 2013, 04:30:21 AM »

Quote from: Cantarella

Bergoglio’s Revolution: Six Key Points
by Rev. Anthony Cekada

1. Diminish the Papacy
2. Empower Bishops’ Synods as Engines of Revolution
3. Use Dialogue and Consultation to Undermine Moral Principles
4. Undermine the Certitude of the Magisterium’s Teachings
5. Throw the Occasional Bone to “the Right”
6. Bless Divorce by Raising the Bar for Matrimonial Consent

Read more:
http://www.fathercekada.com/2013/11/21/bergoglios-revolution-all-according-to-plan/

It seems to me that he left one out:

7. Promote WORKS (of charity) without FAITH, as if it's not DEAD. (Cf. Js. ii. 26)

(It's kind of like a ZOMBIE way of showing love.)

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LoverOfTradition · « **Reply #5 on:** November 22, 2013, 09:52:05 AM »

7. Be a clown. Don't be dignified, as a Pope should. Clown around and have fun.

Ugh...

Overall, good points. We're in for a bumpy ride.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #6 on:** November 22, 2013, 10:07:20 AM »

Quote from: Wessex

I can link Point 3 about dialogue to comments on conservative sites hoping that the SSPX will continue talking to Rome and resolve its differences. There is this idea that the Council can be interpreted in a way that satisfies all parties and that the Society is positioning itself along these lines. You end up with a church where moral flexibility is key and where there is an inbuilt tendency to follow social norms, leading to her irrelevancy.

I like this Wessex guy.

Cantarella · « **Reply #7 on:** November 22, 2013, 11:57:40 AM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: Cantarella
Bergoglio’s Revolution: Six Key Points
by Rev. Anthony Cekada

1. Diminish the Papacy
2. Empower Bishops’ Synods as Engines of Revolution
3. Use Dialogue and Consultation to Undermine Moral Principles
4. Undermine the Certitude of the Magisterium’s Teachings
5. Throw the Occasional Bone to “the Right”
6. Bless Divorce by Raising the Bar for Matrimonial Consent

Read more:
http://www.fathercekada.com/2013/11/21/bergoglios-revolution-all-according-to-plan/

It seems to me that he left one out:

7. Promote WORKS (of charity) without FAITH, as if it's not DEAD. (Cf. Js. ii. 26)

(It's kind of like a ZOMBIE way of showing love.)

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True. This point is of major importance. This is fundamental part of the anti-Christ agenda. Replace love of God by love of neighbor.

This is humanism without God, without Christ. This is what is called "horizontal religion", whose objective is man, instead of "vertical religion" whose primary object is God. It means loving and serving man, while disregarding God.

This is clearly against the first commandment. YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.

This is evident in the Novus Ordo Mass, for example, where the priest faces the people, instead of facing the crucifix. The priest seems to be paying homage to the customers in the Mass, instead of Christ Our Lord.

hollingsworth · « **Reply #8 on:** November 22, 2013, 02:09:51 PM »

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5. Throw the Occasional Bone to “the Right”

I see #5 as the piece de resistance of the last three popes. It's been going on for over 30 years. These popes throw an "occasional bone" to the right whenever the onslaught of modernism reaches dangerous levels of critical mass. Then they back off a bit , and say or publish something which savors mildly of tradition. Then, for example, we see a (temporary) new indult Mass announced in, say, the Diocese of Newark or Scranton, scheduled for 3PM Sundays or in the wee hours of the morning. Then, a prominent lay trad sap like Michael Mass writes triumphantly about the event or publishes a link to some feature article which highlights an historic breakthrough. It's been done dozens of times over. We trads should have learned our lesson by now. Always predictably, when 'Charlie Brown' swings his foot forward to kick the ball through the uprights, 'Lucy' pulls it away and Charlies ends up on his butt.
Even Francis, who is no more a Catholic than Rabbi Skorka, manages to use the old ploy effectively.

2Vermont · « **Reply #9 on:** November 23, 2013, 11:59:38 AM »

Quote from: hollingsworth

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5. Throw the Occasional Bone to “the Right”

I see #5 as the piece de resistance of the last three popes. It's been going on for over 30 years. These popes throw an "occasional bone" to the right whenever the onslaught of modernism reaches dangerous levels of critical mass. Then they back off a bit , and say or publish something which savors mildly of tradition. Then, for example, we see a (temporary) new indult Mass announced in, say, the Diocese of Newark or Scranton, scheduled for 3PM Sundays or in the wee hours of the morning. Then, a prominent lay trad sap like Michael Mass writes triumphantly about the event or publishes a link to some feature article which highlights an historic breakthrough. It's been done dozens of times over. We trads should have learned our lesson by now. Always predictably, when 'Charlie Brown' swings his foot forward to kick the ball through the uprights, 'Lucy' pulls it away and Charlies ends up on his butt.
Even Francis, who is no more a Catholic than Rabbi Skorka, manages to use the old ploy effectively.

Or calls to a token Traditionalist "appreciating his criticisms" but cutting him off before he could really talk about it.

What a joke.

Matto · « **Reply #10 on:** November 23, 2013, 01:23:51 PM »

7. Lead as many souls to hell as possible.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #11 on:** November 24, 2013, 04:36:52 AM »

Unlike Benedict XVI, who was a major bone-thrower, Bergoglio has actually been alienating the "right".

Wessex · « **Reply #12 on:** November 24, 2013, 05:29:36 AM »

Current Western political ideology and systems incorporate a certain amount of right/left flexibility, enough to convince the voting masses that the future of their societies is in their hands. This is the big lie about democracy; a system or constitution is so framed by a few to alone determine that future that the voice of the voter has little impact. And so it is with the system in the conciliar church. The right/left swings we are seeing merely confirm it is working fine. There may be conservatives there but they are hardly conserving the Church; their role is to slow down the pace of change to balance the progressives. Thus, Bergoglio can be said to represent the left-wing but for the sake of (conciliar) unity will sometimes charm the right-wing. Bp. Fellay will use the same trick balancing internal factions to confirm his leadership. Fr. Cekada, Bp. Williamson and the loose association are of course very much outside the loop and are mere observers.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #13 on:** November 24, 2013, 01:21:19 PM »

Quote from: Cantarella

Nothing good can possibly come since Vatican II.

*Sigh*

Notice #5. "Throw the Occasional Bone to “the Right”" and be not deceived.

By their fruits you shall know them Matthew 7:16

For a good tree brings not forth corrupt fruit; neither does a corrupt Luke 6:43-45

The occasional bones to "the Right" have greatly increased since the recent visit of Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos to Francis. This visit was rumored to be of help to SSPX-Rome relations. It may just work to restore the conservative dissolution with Francis and +Fellay to make his move. Take a look at the link below. + Fellay had bought into the Hermeneutics of Continuity of BXVI and if the Romans convince him it will continue, he would fall for it until Francis has them "inside" and turn the tables on them.

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2013/11/again-huge-news-pope-francis-explicitly-endorses-benedict-xvis-hermeneutic-of-continuity/

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #14 on:** November 24, 2013, 10:45:34 PM »

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When I saw this post, it immediately reminded me of
the fact that +F has been "bone-throwing to the right"
ever since his flip-flopping Kansas Conference this summer:

Quote from: Ladislaus

Unlike Benedict XVI, who was a major bone-thrower, Bergoglio has actually been alienating the "right".

Now it seems that +F has seen the opportunity to pick up
where Francis has left off on the "bone-throwing to the right"
kind of thing. There is a vacuum in that, and he's filling it!

Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora

Quote from: Cantarella
Nothing good can possibly come since Vatican II.

*Sigh*

Notice #5. "Throw the Occasional Bone to “the Right”" and be not deceived.

By their fruits you shall know them Matthew 7:16

[For there is no good tree that bringeth forth evil fruit; nor an evil
tree that bringeth forth good fruit Luke 6:43.] [corrected]

The occasional bones to "the Right" have greatly increased since the recent visit of Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos to Francis. This visit was rumored to be of help to SSPX-Rome relations. It may just work to restore the conservative dissolution with Francis and +Fellay to make his move. Take a look at the link below. + Fellay had bought into the Hermeneutics of Continuity of BXVI and if the Romans convince him it will continue, he would fall for it until Francis has them "inside" and turn the tables on them.

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2013/11/again-huge-news-pope-francis-explicitly-endorses-benedict-xvis-hermeneutic-of-continuity/

+Fellay was on YouTube exuding and evoking with his extended neck
and self-inflicted blushed complexion, urging a kind of sympathy from
the women viewers when he described the principle of B16's hermeneutic
of continuity, as though it was utterly shocking and impossible to believe
this was going on..

-- "Then turn the page" as St. Pius X says in Pascendi, speaking of how
Modernists are and what they do, from one extreme to the other --

..and you have the same (or is it his alter-ego, his Mr. Hyde?!?!) +F
caving in to this abominable hermeneutic of continuity as though it
were something good for anyone whatsoever.

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