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Title: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: SeanJohnson on November 20, 2021, 10:11:22 AM
[Keep in mind, Austria just made the abortion jab mandatory for every Austrian -SJ]


https://aaambrosetti.wordpress.com/2021/11/19/austrian-catholics-lead-international-response-to-fr-selegny/ 

The controversy has been raging now for a year. It all began with an anonymous posting on the sspx.org website of the U.S. District of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) late last November (2020). We faithful were given guidance that allowed, under certain conditions, the acceptance of what have come to be called “abortion-tainted vaccines.” That post was taken down and replaced (https://aaambrosetti.wordpress.com/2020/12/15/the-sspx-blinks/) by one by the SSPX Secretary General, Fr. Arnaud Sélégny. All over the world, SSPX faithful were incredulous, and in one of the largest Society bastions, Post Falls, Idaho, USA, a “vaccine presentation” was held by the SSPX priests to assure the modest gathering that, in fact. there were indeed circuмstances under which we Catholics could acquiesce to the “jab”.
Then, two months ago, Fr. Sélégnypenned another opinion piece (https://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/practical-considerations-vaccination-against-covid-19-68811), in which he urged Catholic faithful to adopt a “practical” stance in response to the COVID19 “vaccines”. It was just too much for loyal Catholics to endure. Letter writing to the SSPX leadership proved fruitless.
Last week, we received a most encouraging email from Mr. Franz Kalwoda of Austria. Here is what he wrote:
[color=var(--wp--preset--color--vivid-red)]After a year of stubborn ignorance, on the part of the SSPX leadership, in response to all the deepening Catholic arguments of lay people to the statements of Fr. Sélégny, now force us to write publicly. . .I too have been writing to the SSPX leadership for the fourth time since Dec. 1, 2020. The response has been either no response, or (in the Catholic sense) a questionable response.
You are very welcome to circulate our letter. Until November 21., anyone can endorse the letter with their name and email this to me (franz_kalwoda@yahoo.com). After that it will be published in Catholic media (katholisches.info, gloria.tv, . . . also internationally).[/font][/size][/color]
There are already names of Catholic faithful from several countries. We are asking our dear readers to join this effort to respectfully ask the SSPX leadership to re-evaluate what so many of their faithful clearly see as obduracy in the face of evidence that these “vaccines” are immorally tested, developed and concocted.
Here is the docuмent originated by our fellow Catholics in Austria:
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Brief Critical Comment on the Statement by Fr. Arnaud Sélégny FSSPX dated 24.09.21
The General House of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X published a statement called “Practical considerations for vaccination against Covid-19 (https://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/practical-considerations-vaccination-against-covid-19-68811)” by Fr. Arnaud Sélégny on September 24, 2021. This already triggered critical reactions. Criticism of Fr. Sélégny’s overly positive attitude towards the novel vaccination, which many believers find incomprehensible (https://aaambrosetti.wordpress.com/2021/09/25/father-arnaud-selegny-sspx-pragmatist/), came, for example, from a layman, Anthony Ambrosetti , from the USA who is affiliated with the Society.As one can hear, he is far from being alone: priests and faithful associated with the SSPX, as well as others, are shocked and scandalized. Some wonder how it can be that the bulwark of the full Catholic faith gives space to relativism here.
Recognition of the activity of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X.
We recognize with the expression of gratitude that since its foundation the Priestly Society has worked beneficially, preserving the full faith, liturgy and morals throughout the apostasy following Vatican II. Above all, we recognize that in some countries afflicted by “lockdowns”, the Society has maintained devotion to God and care for the faithful in an exemplary manner. For this reason, nothing is further from our minds than to join in a denigration of the Society, such as, unfortunately, has recently been carried out by media outlet in the United States.
Identification of a serious shortcoming in the statement in question.
However, out of love for the truth, out of concern for the integrity of the Society, and out of concern for the salvation of souls, Fr. Sélégny’s statement cannot go unchallenged: Even if the Reverend Father deals with the objections that had reached him before September 24, thus showing that he is dealing with the moral problem, and even if he admits that “unknown factors surround the question” and that “pressure is being exerted,” which increase the “difficulties,” the opinion of September 24 is the expression of a profound moral-theological uncertainty.Recall the information guiding all arguments and considerations that the novel COVID vaccine in many cases involves the harvesting of cell lines from aborted children (in development and/or testing). According to insider reports, even viable children are taken alive from the womb and dissected alive, without anesthesia (!). In this respect, the clarity of Auxiliary Bishop Athanasius Schneider (https://gloria.tv/post/qUEJ6WLc2qy22MYgeF7voKHTc) (“cannibalism”, “beginning of the apocalypse”) must be considered exemplary. Fr. Sélégny’s statement does not adequately portray the appalling sin of abortion, with which the production of vaccines is associated. To put it bluntly, the production and/or testing of the vaccines involves human sacrifice. Moreover, the use of the vaccines has led to so many deaths and other, often very serious, damages in the last eleven months that one must speak of human sacrifices here as well. The citation of Thomas v. Aquinas used by Fr. Sélégny, De malo, q. XIII, a. 4, ad 17, raises serious questions: Is the thought process of the Doctor universalis actually pertinent here? The sensus fidei resists that Thomas should actually be an accomplice in the present tyranny of falsehood. The whole line of thought of Father Sélégny, with all the correct statements it contains, is unfortunately working into the hands of the powers that use the COVID plague for their purposes. It therefore unfortunately also works into the hands of the current Vatican leadership, which has shamelessly made itself an accomplice of the political powers.
Disregarding the obvious: Where is the analysis of circuмstances?
The moral-theological analysis of an action traditionally includes three aspects: the object of the action, the intention, and the circuмstances. According to our observation, in the vaccination issue, the consideration of the circuмstances occurs much too little, even among church officials and, unfortunately, also with Fr. Sélégny. The following should be taken into account: According to the open-hearted statements of Bill Gates and others, virus outbreaks are apparently controllable and are probably being controlled (Gates: “the next virus will get the attention it deserves”, billionaire Warren Buffet: “a new, deadlier wave will come”). Bill Gates also openly stated that he favors population reduction. Vaccination campaigns should also be used for this purpose. On the other hand, he admitted as recently as November 2021, that COVID vaccination had minimal effect in terms of disease prevention (!). At the same time, he spoke ominously of future “bioterrorist attacks”. slightly-reduce-viral-transmission/"]Here shows the audacity (http://"https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vaccine-pushing-bill-gates-admits-mrna-shots-only[1) of the propagandist and ruler who is not committed to any truth. All these circuмstances surrounding the vaccination must be taken into account for a moral theological analysis.
Where is the discernment of spirits?
The “discernment of spirits” (1 Cor. 12:10, Ignatian Spiritual Exercises) shows us the satanic character of lying propaganda, the murder of unborn children and the simultaneous concealment and denial of abortion in the process, and fear-mongering. In addition, there is an enormous amount of money involved. Where there is mammon, the devil is not far behind. It is an insult to the mind to regard the COVID vaccination campaign as nothing but a medical measure. In view of these facts, it makes no sense to try to interpret away the evil in this matter with moral-theological sophistry.
What would Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre say?
We cannot imagine that Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre would have approved of this. After all, we owe it solely to his indomitability that the full Catholic faith was saved in the 20th century. Of course, to this faith belongs the unabridged morality, which in turn includes the absolute prohibition of intrinsece malum, the intrinsically bad act. Only resistance to the evil of the misnamed “vaccination” against COVID can contain further sin and harm and appease the wrath of God. We therefore request that the leadership of the Priestly Society unequivocally strengthen the faithful in their decision for uncompromising good and against the defilement by a lying dictatorship in the name of hygiene.
Signed:
Mag. theol., Mag. phil. Wolfram Schrems (Austria)
Anthony and Victoria Ambrosetti (USA)
Mag. Karl Schlagenhaufen (Austria)
Dr. med. Johann Wilde (Austria)
Inge M. Thürkauf (Germany)
Dr. iur. Georg Roth (Austria)
Hofrat Mag. Thomas Lindner (Austria)
Michal Semin (Czech Republic)
Maria Fellner (Austria)
Kamil Polakowski (Poland)
Jee Soo Susanna Yun (Austria)
Pia Kim (Korea)
Claudia Schneidenbach (Germany)
Joanna Lee (Korea)
Hans-Jörg Karrenbrock (Austria)
Justine Veronika Renner (Austria)
Franz Kalwoda (Austria)
Ad maiorem Dei gloriam
Selection of sources demonstrating the drama surrounding the issue of “research and production for vaccines from cell lines”:
Here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUXGB5FzhPc) a Pfizer Whistleblower Leaks Execs Emails: ‘We Want to Avoid Having Info on Fetal Cells Out There”
Here is evidence (https://philosophia-perennis.com/2021/08/14/abgetriebene-babys-zu-corona-impfstoff-verarbeitet/ (Five babies a week disemboweled for research purposes). https:/gloria.tv/post/zyJ6jJMEm1j74q6mEjBSxG2yy (USA: Ethics of Fetal Tissue Research - A Conversation with Tara Sander Lee, molecular and cell biologist unmasks trading and research with fetuses) of five babies a week disemboweled for research purposes.
USA: Ethics of Fetal Tissue Research – A Conversation with Tara Sander Lee (https://gloria.tv/post/zyJ6jJMEm1j74q6mEjBSxG2yy), molecular and cell biologist unmasks trading and research with fetuses.
From Lifesite News:  (https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/the-proof-many-aborted-babies-are-used-in-vaccine-creation/)Dr. Stanley Plotkin is considered the Godfather of Vaccines. He is an American physician who worked as a consultant to the biggest vaccine manufacturers and biotechnology firms, non-profits, and governments. And then, Dr. Plotkin reveals other macabre aspects of the abortion link to vaccines. Not that it should make a difference to pro-lifers, but the children aborted were not disabled babies who were likely to die in the womb anyway. They were not miscarriages either, as is so often presented to assuage the consciences of people conflicted about taking abortion-tainted vaccines. That is just a complete falsehood. He even says that all of them were over three months gestation. If that is not grotesque enough, Dr. Plotkin’s response to harvesting organs from these dozens of babies, who were aborted all after the third month of pregnancy, is even further disturbing. So, they were healthy unborn babies all beyond three months gestation and they had to be three months in utero or older because they needed to have developed the organs these mad scientists were after, organs like their pituitary glands, the unborn children’s lungs, their skin, their kidneys, spleen, hearts and tongues. At a later point in the video, the lawyer asks Dr. Plotkin if he is aware that his client was objecting to the vaccines because what they contain were developed from aborted babies.
Lozier Institute: analysis (https://lozierinstitute.org/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-covid-19-vaccine/) of Covid vaccination producers.




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Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 20, 2021, 02:46:12 PM
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Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 20, 2021, 02:47:34 PM
That isn’t eddystone, pa. Lol. 
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 20, 2021, 03:01:56 PM
............“Fr. Trevor Burfitt and Fr. Kevin Robinson, have successfully fought back against the tyrannical mandates in their states.  But the willingness of the leadership — in Menzingen and in the various District houses — to accommodate this evil is too heartbreaking for words.  And the propagation of such drivel as that of Fr. Sélégny is more than a little disheartening.  God willing, those of us who knew and loved the Archbishop will have our prayers answered that his wayward sons will, on this most important issue, find their way back to the true teaching of the Gospels.”
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 20, 2021, 03:18:25 PM
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Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 20, 2021, 03:22:38 PM
Why go to Idaho?  The SSPX can’t handle scandals and yet people are going to listen to them about taking a spiritually and physically dangerous jab. 
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: hollingsworth on November 21, 2021, 12:41:30 PM

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VCR: The SSPX can’t handle scandals and yet people are going to listen to them about taking a spiritually and physically dangerous jab. 


I believe you refer particularly to sspx leadership.  If so, it's not that they "can't handle scandals." It's that they don't handle scandals.  They let Church Militant and others do that for them.
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: 2Vermont on November 21, 2021, 02:58:45 PM
When these "vaccines" are being made mandatory for all, how is this NOT the Mark of the Beast?
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: SeanJohnson on November 21, 2021, 04:34:02 PM
Quote from: 2Vermont on November 21, 2021, 02:58:45 PM
When these "vaccines" are being made mandatory for all, how is this NOT the Mark of the Beast?

Its a new development (i.e., Austria, then the rest of the world).

Now that some country's are mandating them for all, I change my vote:

It is the Mark.

And anyone who tries to give it to me or my family is going to have a bad day.

Come and get some!!!
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Matthew on November 22, 2021, 01:54:47 AM
Quote from: SeanJohnson on November 21, 2021, 04:34:02 PM
Its a new development (i.e., Austria, then the rest of the world).

Now that some country's are mandating them for all, I change my vote:

It is the Mark.

And anyone who tries to give it to me or my family is going to have a bad day.

Come and get some!!!


It's sure at least a dress rehearsal for the real thing.

I mean, you can't earn money, go to the store, "buy or sell" unless you have this injection.

Does it have the Beast's name on it somewhere/somehow, or the number of his name?

Also, where is the Antichrist at the moment? That's the only thing stopping me from full-on calling this poison injection the Mark.

It's Eschatology 101 that the Mark of the Beast and the Antichrist are contemporary -- they happen at the same time. Also, that the Antichrist will be a MAN, not a system, not a movement.
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Ladislaus on November 22, 2021, 04:42:52 AM
Sean, this font is unreadable.  Interesting content but it’s giving me a headache to read this stuff.
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: SeanJohnson on November 22, 2021, 05:37:07 AM
Quote from: Ladislaus on November 22, 2021, 04:42:52 AM
Sean, this font is unreadable.  Interesting content but it’s giving me a headache to read this stuff.

Sometimes when I copy/paste from my phone, the font enlarges once I post it.  Not sure why.  If I have time, and the article is short, I come back within the editing window, and inch by inch, highlight the little section I can see, and remove formatting (then repeat, repeat, repeat, until I’ve covered the whole article).  In this case, I was up against the clock, and thought maybe a bad post is better than me forgetting it when I’m free later.  So that was my dilemma.
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: PAT317 on November 22, 2021, 06:40:17 AM
Quote from: Ladislaus on November 22, 2021, 04:42:52 AM
Sean, this font is unreadable.  Interesting content but it’s giving me a headache to read this stuff.

I just clicked on the link to solve that problem. 
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Yeti on November 22, 2021, 07:32:13 AM
Quote from: 2Vermont on November 21, 2021, 02:58:45 PM
When these "vaccines" are being made mandatory for all, how is this NOT the Mark of the Beast?
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I don't think so. The mark of the beast will only be given to those who worship the Beast, and will simply be a sign or proof that one is a follower of the Beast. On the contrary, the jab is given freely to anyone who wants it.
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: 2Vermont on November 22, 2021, 07:35:29 AM
Quote from: Yeti on November 22, 2021, 07:32:13 AM
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I don't think so. The mark of the beast will only be given to those who worship the Beast, and will simply be a sign or proof that one is a follower of the Beast. On the contrary, the jab is given freely to anyone who wants it.
But the jab is not given "freely to those who want it".  
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Yeti on November 22, 2021, 07:39:41 AM
Quote from: 2Vermont on November 22, 2021, 07:35:29 AM
But the jab is not given "freely to those who want it". 
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What I mean is, anyone can go into a drug store and get the jab, and nobody verifies if you have worshiped the Beast before they give it to you. It's given to anyone who asks for it. The Mark of the Beast will only be given to people who have worshiped the Beast.
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 22, 2021, 07:41:13 AM
The SSPX hierarchy won’t even help people with medical exempt letters. That is mortal sin.  Again, the hierarchy won’t handle sex abusers then why trust them as they push the jab publicly. 

The majority of those pushing the vax around the world are sodomites. 
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Angelus on November 22, 2021, 03:57:29 PM
We need to remember that the words of Apocalypse 13 are primarily figurative, meaning not necessarily to be taken literally. 

"Apocalyptic" language should be read as pointing to a reality but cloaking that reality in metaphorical and allusive language. For example, the idea of "the Mark of the Beast" [Greek: charagma] is a literary allusion to Deuteronomy 6:4-9, which says:


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4 Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord.  5 Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole strength.  6 And these words which I command thee this day, shall be in thy heart:  7 And thou shalt tell them to thy children, and thou shalt meditate upon them sitting in thy house, and walking on thy journey, sleeping and rising.  8 And thou shalt bind them as a sign on thy hand, and they shall be and shall move between thy eyes.  9 And thou shalt write them in the entry, and on the doors of thy house.


Using literary allusion, St. John is saying that those who do this bad thing (receive "the Mark of the Beast") are those who love not "the Lord" but "the Beast" with their "whole heart, whole soul, and whole strength." 

Now, who/what is "the Beast?" I think it is a Counterfeit Bride of Christ that is wedded not to the God-Man, Jesus Christ, but to "the World." This Counterfeit Bride is also called "the Whore of Babylon" in the Apocalypse. The Whore is the symbol for all of those who claim the name Catholic Christian, but reject His teachings and instead follow the human teaching of a man who heads up the Counterfeit Bride, the "Bergoglian Church." These Catholics commit spiritual adultery by wedding themselves to the Beast ("the World") while their Bridgroom (Christ) is away prior to the Second Coming.

So while "the mark" is an actual literal thing. The description given using the figurative language of the Apocalypse should not necessarily be interpreted in a slavishly literal way. The vaccine passport or some future iteration is most likely "the mark." The vaccine passport cannot exist without the vaccine. So the vaccine should also be thought of as "the mark" or at least its precursor.
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Yeti on November 22, 2021, 04:19:03 PM
Quote from: Angelus on November 22, 2021, 03:57:29 PM
The vaccine passport or some future iteration is most likely "the mark." The vaccine passport cannot exist without the vaccine. So the vaccine should also be thought of as "the mark" or at least its precursor.
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:confused: I don't see the connection between the vaccine and worshiping the Beast? The vax pass is something given to you if you receive a drug; the Mark is something given to you if you worship the Beast. Those are two entirely different things.
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Angelus on November 22, 2021, 04:24:37 PM
Quote from: Yeti on November 22, 2021, 04:19:03 PM
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:confused: I don't see the connection between the vaccine and worshiping the Beast? The vax pass is something given to you if you receive a drug; the Mark is something given to you if you worship the Beast. Those are two entirely different things.

One "worships" the "Beast" when they prioritize "worldly" things to "spiritual" things. Such as prioritizing one's bodily health over concerns about aborting innocent babies. That's just one example, but relevant to the vaccine issue.
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: nigel on November 25, 2021, 03:59:39 AM
I very rarely post.  But I read alot here and elsewhere.  And one thing I do not see is anyone pointing out that before we get the Mark and the Antichrist that it serves, we get the Two Witnesses.  And they are world famous, the Bible makes that clear, they are not hidden.  They are God's Prophets and they sift the Faithful from the lost, they draw the line in the sand so that when the Mark comes out there is no doubt it is the Mark.  God would not condemn those with the Mark if He hadn't given them very, very clear information to recognise it if they chose to listen.  I do believe the Graphen, the Hydras, the Nano Bots and rest of it are the foundation stone for the Mark, but as yet they are not the complete system that will be the Mark.  The next stage in this must be the Two Witnesses appearing, has to be.  God would not leave us to be devoured as it appears is happening right now.  The Church is hidden right now, and we have no means of knowing God's Will in a clear way...and that is not how God works.  He comes last minute, He tests your courage and devotion that way...but He always shows very clearly and without doubt the true path...and at the minute everything is confused and a fudge and the priests and Faithful are in chaos.
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: SeanJohnson on November 25, 2021, 05:56:59 AM
Quote from: nigel on November 25, 2021, 03:59:39 AM
I very rarely post.  But I read alot here and elsewhere.  And one thing I do not see is anyone pointing out that before we get the Mark and the Antichrist that it serves, we get the Two Witnesses.  And they are world famous, the Bible makes that clear, they are not hidden.  They are God's Prophets and they sift the Faithful from the lost, they draw the line in the sand so that when the Mark comes out there is no doubt it is the Mark.  God would not condemn those with the Mark if He hadn't given them very, very clear information to recognise it if they chose to listen.  I do believe the Graphen, the Hydras, the Nano Bots and rest of it are the foundation stone for the Mark, but as yet they are not the complete system that will be the Mark.  The next stage in this must be the Two Witnesses appearing, has to be.  God would not leave us to be devoured as it appears is happening right now.  The Church is hidden right now, and we have no means of knowing God's Will in a clear way...and that is not how God works.  He comes last minute, He tests your courage and devotion that way...but He always shows very clearly and without doubt the true path...and at the minute everything is confused and a fudge and the priests and Faithful are in chaos.

That raises an interesting question regarding the Mark:

Can the faithful be duped/deceived into taking it (ie., not knowing it is the Mark), or, will all make their choice with full knowledge?

I don’t know the answer.  What do the theologians and exegetes teach?
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: nigel on November 25, 2021, 07:20:30 AM
The tradition from Scripture and the interpretations in the Fathers, is that you cannot take the Mark unknowingly - God does send the Two Witness specifically to gather the Faithful together and clearly point out God's Will in preparation for the onslaught.  Before the Witnesses you have the great apostasy and the false Catholic Church and the fake Prophet, etc.  We are clearly still in that stage.  But I would suggest it cannot last much longer or we will all be lost to Truth - I mean look at the absolute mayhem amongst those who call themselves Catholic (and I'd suggest that title means nothing in any context right now).  And look at the plans to eradicate humanity and all nature through GM modification.  If He stays hidden, as He has for later half of 20th century, then there ain't going to be anything to save.  To sum up - logic, tradition and Scripture make it clear God's Will is very clearly manifested before the Mark is instigated, and that causes the Beast to be riled and come out of hiding and attack those who follow the Two Witness - and some of those who follow the Witnesses become the 144, 000, the rest are martyred.
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: trento on November 26, 2021, 02:32:41 AM
Quote from: Angelus on November 22, 2021, 04:24:37 PM
One "worships" the "Beast" when they prioritize "worldly" things to "spiritual" things. Such as prioritizing one's bodily health over concerns about aborting innocent babies. That's just one example, but relevant to the vaccine issue.
"The trademark of Apple, for example, is not merely an apple, but an apple which has a bite out of it. Why is the bite out of it? Is it not the flag of Adam’s defiant disobedience to God, seeking for himself the knowledge of good and evil, at the suggestion of the devil? Yet I know many traditionalists, including clergy, who have Apple devices and pay for Apple technology."

So anyone here using Apple products? :laugh1:
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Mark 79 on November 26, 2021, 03:50:03 AM
Quote from: trento on November 26, 2021, 02:32:41 AM
"The trademark of Apple, for example, is not merely an apple, but an apple which has a bite out of it. Why is the bite out of it? Is it not the flag of Adam’s defiant disobedience to God, seeking for himself the knowledge of good and evil, at the suggestion of the devil? Yet I know many traditionalists, including clergy, who have Apple devices and pay for Apple technology."…

Worse, it's a sodomite rainbow apple with a bite out of it.
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: andy on November 28, 2021, 11:17:02 PM
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on November 22, 2021, 07:41:13 AM
The SSPX hierarchy won’t even help people with medical exempt letters.
This is not entirely true. I know one case in NA where FSSPX priest offered such a letter.
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: trento on November 29, 2021, 02:06:12 AM
Quote from: Mark 79 on November 26, 2021, 03:50:03 AM
Worse, it's a sodomite rainbow apple with a bite out of it.
The order of colors in Apple's logo is different. https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-origin-of-the-Rainbow-Apple-logo
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: B from A on December 10, 2021, 05:12:48 PM
See also this thread. (https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/austrian-sspx-four-reasons-against-covid-19-vaccines/msg742773/#msg742773)
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: songbird on December 10, 2021, 07:56:36 PM
Viva Cristo Rey:  You can add to the list Peurto Rico and Peru forced sterilization on 30,000 and more since 1985 funding from USAIDS which includes partnership with Catholic Relief, and charities. More reading shows the USA since 1909 experimenting on women to make contraceptives. Well, the USA could not do it on their own women, the term used was, "it was unpopular" so go outside the USA.  Very ugly!

Look up Guevedoces, girls with penis age 12 in Dominican Republic New Guinea 1970's.  This is not a strange occurrence of nature.  This is man made brought on. Written in Omni magazine 1990 "Uncertain future of Gender:Rodger Gorsik made a shot to make girls have a penis. There is a critical exposure time to give the inoculation. Rodger Gorsik made coast-to-coast with Art Bell. I called in and called him Demonic!
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on December 11, 2021, 01:30:04 PM
Quote from: trento on November 26, 2021, 02:32:41 AM
"The trademark of Apple, for example, is not merely an apple, but an apple which has a bite out of it. Why is the bite out of it? Is it not the flag of Adam’s defiant disobedience to God, seeking for himself the knowledge of good and evil, at the suggestion of the devil? Yet I know many traditionalists, including clergy, who have Apple devices and pay for Apple technology."

So anyone here using Apple products? :laugh1:
Time to get alternative. 
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on December 11, 2021, 01:31:25 PM
Quote from: andy on November 28, 2021, 11:17:02 PM
This is not entirely true. I know one case in NA where FSSPX priest offered such a letter.
One priest.  They all should be doing this.  They should be fighting against this jab. 
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on December 11, 2021, 01:32:57 PM
Quote from: hollingsworth on November 21, 2021, 12:41:30 PM

I believe you refer particularly to sspx leadership.  If so, it's not that they "can't handle scandals." It's that they don't handle scandals.  They let Church Militant and others do that for them.
Yes. The hierarchy.  
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on December 11, 2021, 01:34:40 PM
Quote from: trento on November 26, 2021, 02:32:41 AM
"The trademark of Apple, for example, is not merely an apple, but an apple which has a bite out of it. Why is the bite out of it? 
They mock God in everything. 
Title: Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on December 11, 2021, 01:38:52 PM
Quote from: songbird on December 10, 2021, 07:56:36 PM
Viva Cristo Rey:  You can add to the list Peurto Rico and Peru forced sterilization on 30,000 and more since 1985 funding from USAIDS which includes partnership with Catholic Relief, and charities. More reading shows the USA since 1909 experimenting on women to make contraceptives. Well, the USA could not do it on their own women, the term used was, "it was unpopular" so go outside the USA.  Very ugly!

Look up Guevedoces, girls with penis age 12 in Dominican Republic New Guinea 1970's.  This is not a strange occurrence of nature.  This is man made brought on. Written in Omni magazine 1990 "Uncertain future of Gender:Rodger Gorsik made a shot to make girls have a penis. There is a critical exposure time to give the inoculation. Rodger Gorsik made coast-to-coast with Art Bell. I called in and called him Demonic!
Exploiting the poor and vulnerable.  USA has committed crimes against humanity and bishops do nothing.  No one born that way. They were chemically changed and brainwashed.