Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough  (Read 5370 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline SeanJohnson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15060
  • Reputation: +10006/-3162
  • Gender: Male
Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
« on: November 20, 2021, 10:11:22 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • [Keep in mind, Austria just made the abortion jab mandatory for every Austrian -SJ]


    https://aaambrosetti.wordpress.com/2021/11/19/austrian-catholics-lead-international-response-to-fr-selegny/ 

    The controversy has been raging now for a year. It all began with an anonymous posting on the sspx.org website of the U.S. District of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) late last November (2020). We faithful were given guidance that allowed, under certain conditions, the acceptance of what have come to be called “abortion-tainted vaccines.” That post was taken down and replaced by one by the SSPX Secretary General, Fr. Arnaud Sélégny. All over the world, SSPX faithful were incredulous, and in one of the largest Society bastions, Post Falls, Idaho, USA, a “vaccine presentation” was held by the SSPX priests to assure the modest gathering that, in fact. there were indeed circuмstances under which we Catholics could acquiesce to the “jab”.
    Then, two months ago, Fr. Sélégnypenned another opinion piece, in which he urged Catholic faithful to adopt a “practical” stance in response to the COVID19 “vaccines”. It was just too much for loyal Catholics to endure. Letter writing to the SSPX leadership proved fruitless.
    Last week, we received a most encouraging email from Mr. Franz Kalwoda of Austria. Here is what he wrote:

    [color=var(--wp--preset--color--vivid-red)]After a year of stubborn ignorance, on the part of the SSPX leadership, in response to all the deepening Catholic arguments of lay people to the statements of Fr. Sélégny, now force us to write publicly. . .I too have been writing to the SSPX leadership for the fourth time since Dec. 1, 2020. The response has been either no response, or (in the Catholic sense) a questionable response.
    You are very welcome to circulate our letter. Until November 21., anyone can endorse the letter with their name and email this to me (franz_kalwoda@yahoo.com). After that it will be published in Catholic media (katholisches.info, gloria.tv, . . . also internationally).
    [/font][/size][/color]
    There are already names of Catholic faithful from several countries. We are asking our dear readers to join this effort to respectfully ask the SSPX leadership to re-evaluate what so many of their faithful clearly see as obduracy in the face of evidence that these “vaccines” are immorally tested, developed and concocted.
    Here is the docuмent originated by our fellow Catholics in Austria:

    ________________________________
    Brief Critical Comment on the Statement by Fr. Arnaud Sélégny FSSPX dated 24.09.21
    The General House of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X published a statement called “Practical considerations for vaccination against Covid-19” by Fr. Arnaud Sélégny on September 24, 2021. This already triggered critical reactions. Criticism of Fr. Sélégny’s overly positive attitude towards the novel vaccination, which many believers find incomprehensible, came, for example, from a layman, Anthony Ambrosetti , from the USA who is affiliated with the Society.As one can hear, he is far from being alone: priests and faithful associated with the SSPX, as well as others, are shocked and scandalized. Some wonder how it can be that the bulwark of the full Catholic faith gives space to relativism here.
    Recognition of the activity of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X.
    We recognize with the expression of gratitude that since its foundation the Priestly Society has worked beneficially, preserving the full faith, liturgy and morals throughout the apostasy following Vatican II. Above all, we recognize that in some countries afflicted by “lockdowns”, the Society has maintained devotion to God and care for the faithful in an exemplary manner. For this reason, nothing is further from our minds than to join in a denigration of the Society, such as, unfortunately, has recently been carried out by media outlet in the United States.
    Identification of a serious shortcoming in the statement in question.
    However, out of love for the truth, out of concern for the integrity of the Society, and out of concern for the salvation of souls, Fr. Sélégny’s statement cannot go unchallenged: Even if the Reverend Father deals with the objections that had reached him before September 24, thus showing that he is dealing with the moral problem, and even if he admits that “unknown factors surround the question” and that “pressure is being exerted,” which increase the “difficulties,” the opinion of September 24 is the expression of a profound moral-theological uncertainty.Recall the information guiding all arguments and considerations that the novel COVID vaccine in many cases involves the harvesting of cell lines from aborted children (in development and/or testing). According to insider reports, even viable children are taken alive from the womb and dissected alive, without anesthesia (!). In this respect, the clarity of Auxiliary Bishop Athanasius Schneider (“cannibalism”, “beginning of the apocalypse”) must be considered exemplary. Fr. Sélégny’s statement does not adequately portray the appalling sin of abortion, with which the production of vaccines is associated. To put it bluntly, the production and/or testing of the vaccines involves human sacrifice. Moreover, the use of the vaccines has led to so many deaths and other, often very serious, damages in the last eleven months that one must speak of human sacrifices here as well. The citation of Thomas v. Aquinas used by Fr. Sélégny, De malo, q. XIII, a. 4, ad 17, raises serious questions: Is the thought process of the Doctor universalis actually pertinent here? The sensus fidei resists that Thomas should actually be an accomplice in the present tyranny of falsehood. The whole line of thought of Father Sélégny, with all the correct statements it contains, is unfortunately working into the hands of the powers that use the COVID plague for their purposes. It therefore unfortunately also works into the hands of the current Vatican leadership, which has shamelessly made itself an accomplice of the political powers.
    Disregarding the obvious: Where is the analysis of circuмstances?
    The moral-theological analysis of an action traditionally includes three aspects: the object of the action, the intention, and the circuмstances. According to our observation, in the vaccination issue, the consideration of the circuмstances occurs much too little, even among church officials and, unfortunately, also with Fr. Sélégny. The following should be taken into account: According to the open-hearted statements of Bill Gates and others, virus outbreaks are apparently controllable and are probably being controlled (Gates: “the next virus will get the attention it deserves”, billionaire Warren Buffet: “a new, deadlier wave will come”). Bill Gates also openly stated that he favors population reduction. Vaccination campaigns should also be used for this purpose. On the other hand, he admitted as recently as November 2021, that COVID vaccination had minimal effect in terms of disease prevention (!). At the same time, he spoke ominously of future “bioterrorist attacks”. slightly-reduce-viral-transmission/"]Here shows the audacity of the propagandist and ruler who is not committed to any truth. All these circuмstances surrounding the vaccination must be taken into account for a moral theological analysis.
    Where is the discernment of spirits?
    The “discernment of spirits” (1 Cor. 12:10, Ignatian Spiritual Exercises) shows us the satanic character of lying propaganda, the murder of unborn children and the simultaneous concealment and denial of abortion in the process, and fear-mongering. In addition, there is an enormous amount of money involved. Where there is mammon, the devil is not far behind. It is an insult to the mind to regard the COVID vaccination campaign as nothing but a medical measure. In view of these facts, it makes no sense to try to interpret away the evil in this matter with moral-theological sophistry.
    What would Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre say?
    We cannot imagine that Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre would have approved of this. After all, we owe it solely to his indomitability that the full Catholic faith was saved in the 20th century. Of course, to this faith belongs the unabridged morality, which in turn includes the absolute prohibition of intrinsece malum, the intrinsically bad act. Only resistance to the evil of the misnamed “vaccination” against COVID can contain further sin and harm and appease the wrath of God. We therefore request that the leadership of the Priestly Society unequivocally strengthen the faithful in their decision for uncompromising good and against the defilement by a lying dictatorship in the name of hygiene.
    Signed:
    Mag. theol., Mag. phil. Wolfram Schrems (Austria)
    Anthony and Victoria Ambrosetti (USA)
    Mag. Karl Schlagenhaufen (Austria)
    Dr. med. Johann Wilde (Austria)
    Inge M. Thürkauf (Germany)
    Dr. iur. Georg Roth (Austria)
    Hofrat Mag. Thomas Lindner (Austria)
    Michal Semin (Czech Republic)
    Maria Fellner (Austria)
    Kamil Polakowski (Poland)
    Jee Soo Susanna Yun (Austria)
    Pia Kim (Korea)
    Claudia Schneidenbach (Germany)
    Joanna Lee (Korea)
    Hans-Jörg Karrenbrock (Austria)
    Justine Veronika Renner (Austria)
    Franz Kalwoda (Austria)
    Ad maiorem Dei gloriam
    Selection of sources demonstrating the drama surrounding the issue of “research and production for vaccines from cell lines”:
    Here a Pfizer Whistleblower Leaks Execs Emails: ‘We Want to Avoid Having Info on Fetal Cells Out There”
    Here is evidence of five babies a week disemboweled for research purposes.
    USA: Ethics of Fetal Tissue Research – A Conversation with Tara Sander Lee, molecular and cell biologist unmasks trading and research with fetuses.
    From Lifesite News: Dr. Stanley Plotkin is considered the Godfather of Vaccines. He is an American physician who worked as a consultant to the biggest vaccine manufacturers and biotechnology firms, non-profits, and governments. And then, Dr. Plotkin reveals other macabre aspects of the abortion link to vaccines. Not that it should make a difference to pro-lifers, but the children aborted were not disabled babies who were likely to die in the womb anyway. They were not miscarriages either, as is so often presented to assuage the consciences of people conflicted about taking abortion-tainted vaccines. That is just a complete falsehood. He even says that all of them were over three months gestation. If that is not grotesque enough, Dr. Plotkin’s response to harvesting organs from these dozens of babies, who were aborted all after the third month of pregnancy, is even further disturbing. So, they were healthy unborn babies all beyond three months gestation and they had to be three months in utero or older because they needed to have developed the organs these mad scientists were after, organs like their pituitary glands, the unborn children’s lungs, their skin, their kidneys, spleen, hearts and tongues. At a later point in the video, the lawyer asks Dr. Plotkin if he is aware that his client was objecting to the vaccines because what they contain were developed from aborted babies.
    Lozier Institute: analysis of Covid vaccination producers.




    Advertisements

    REPORT THIS AD
    Share this:

    Catholic Issues Aborted Baby Stem Cells, Abortion, Abortion-tainted vaccines, apocalypse, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Bill Gates, Bioterrorism, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, cannibalism, Catholic Morality, Discernment of Spirits, Fr. Arnaud Sélégny, Gloria TV, LifeSite News, Moral Theology of Vaccines, SSPX, St. Thomas Aquinas, Vaccine Liceity, Vaccine moral, Warren Buffet 4 Comments
    Post navigation
    ← Those to Whom Much Has Been Given
    4 thoughts on “Austrian Catholics Lead the Way
    • November 19, 2021 at 9:59 pm

      DEO GRATIAS! FOR THIS RESISTANCE TO THE SUPERIORS OF THE SSPX AND THE IMMORAL, SCANDALOUS AND PUBLIC POSITION ON THE ABORTION TAINTED VACCINES. WE TOO HAVE WRITTEN TO THE SUPERIORS IN PROTEST, WITH NO RESPONSE. WE HAVE MET WITH OUR PRIOR To VOICE OUR OPOSITION AND CONCERNS ONLY TO BE TOLD IN A CONDESCENDING MANNER; ” YOU ARE NOT THEOLOGIANS”.
      THANK YOU FOR YOUR COURAGE AND TRUE CHARITY!
      Reply

      • November 20, 2021 at 6:40 am

        Thank you, Richard and Monique, for your comment, but more so for your courage in raising the issue with your priest. It is unfortunate, we think, that some SSPX faithful believe that if they disagree with the Society, they are somehow being disloyal to Archbishop Lefebvre and the missionary order he founded. In fact, it appears that “loyal opposition” is now considered treachery to some. At the very least, we read opinion pieces from some priests like Fr. McPherson, now relocated to St. Thomas Aquinas seminary in Virginia from the defunct Holy Cross seminary in Australia. Fr. McPherson, in his last “Southern Sentinel” column before leaving Down Under, apparently wanted all of us who disagree with the Society’s vaccine position to feel a but guilty for not taking into account all of the great work that the Society has done over the last five decades.
        Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, it is most difficult for us to contradict the SSPX leaders and moral theology professors. Still, the truth is the truth, and there are certainly priests within the SSPX itself who both publicly and privately express chagrin at the moral gymnastics that pro-vaxx Society leaders (like Fr. Selegny) use to twist themselves into Jesuitical sophistry — as Michael Baker has so eloquently pointed out:
        https://www.superflumina.org/key-to-sspx-obscurantism.html
        When we met with our prior nearly a year ago, we, too, were basically reminded that we are not theologians, and that we just need to trust what the priests say. But which priests? How about the ones who don’t follow the leader? Fr. Kevin Robinson? Fr. Burfitt? Fr. Frey, District Superior of Austria, who was adamantly and publicly opposed to the deathvaxx before the apparent arm twisting he received from Menzingen. Not to mention the countless good prelates and priests who are not even affiliated with the SSPX. We knew and loved Archbishop Lefebvre, but the truly traitorous thing to do would be for us to remain silent when we see and hear and read of a Society leadership gone awry on this grave issue.
        Thank you again for your comment and your courage. May God bless you and your family. Tony and Vickie Ambrosetti
        Reply
    • November 19, 2021 at 10:22 pm

      Thank you!!! How do I sign?
      Reply

    Leave a Reply
    Your email address will not be published.





    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 18211
    • Reputation: +5638/-1948
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
    « Reply #1 on: November 20, 2021, 02:46:12 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • May God bless you and keep you


    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 18211
    • Reputation: +5638/-1948
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
    « Reply #2 on: November 20, 2021, 02:47:34 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • That isn’t eddystone, pa. Lol. 
    May God bless you and keep you

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 18211
    • Reputation: +5638/-1948
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
    « Reply #3 on: November 20, 2021, 03:01:56 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • ............“Fr. Trevor Burfitt and Fr. Kevin Robinson, have successfully fought back against the tyrannical mandates in their states.  But the willingness of the leadership — in Menzingen and in the various District houses — to accommodate this evil is too heartbreaking for words.  And the propagation of such drivel as that of Fr. Sélégny is more than a little disheartening.  God willing, those of us who knew and loved the Archbishop will have our prayers answered that his wayward sons will, on this most important issue, find their way back to the true teaching of the Gospels.”
    May God bless you and keep you

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 18211
    • Reputation: +5638/-1948
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
    « Reply #4 on: November 20, 2021, 03:18:25 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • https://tinyurl.com/a8khxd2a

    By Steve Weatherbe - 06. November 2014
    Kenya’s Catholic bishops are charging two United Nations organizations with sterilizing millions of girls and women under cover of an anti-tetanus inoculation program sponsored by the Kenyan government.
    According to a statement released Tuesday by the Kenya Catholic Doctors Association, the organization has found an antigen that causes miscarriages in a vaccine being administered to 2.3 million girls and women by the աօʀʟd ɦɛaʟtɦ օʀɢaռiʐatɨօռ and UNICEF. Priests throughout Kenya reportedly are advising their congregations to refuse the vaccine.....
    May God bless you and keep you


    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 18211
    • Reputation: +5638/-1948
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
    « Reply #5 on: November 20, 2021, 03:22:38 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!1
  • Why go to Idaho?  The SSPX can’t handle scandals and yet people are going to listen to them about taking a spiritually and physically dangerous jab. 
    May God bless you and keep you

    Offline hollingsworth

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 2842
    • Reputation: +2932/-517
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
    « Reply #6 on: November 21, 2021, 12:41:30 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0

  • Quote
    VCR: The SSPX can’t handle scandals and yet people are going to listen to them about taking a spiritually and physically dangerous jab. 


    I believe you refer particularly to sspx leadership.  If so, it's not that they "can't handle scandals." It's that they don't handle scandals.  They let Church Militant and others do that for them.

    Offline 2Vermont

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 11312
    • Reputation: +6285/-1087
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
    « Reply #7 on: November 21, 2021, 02:58:45 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • When these "vaccines" are being made mandatory for all, how is this NOT the Mark of the Beast?


    Offline SeanJohnson

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 15060
    • Reputation: +10006/-3162
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
    « Reply #8 on: November 21, 2021, 04:34:02 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • When these "vaccines" are being made mandatory for all, how is this NOT the Mark of the Beast?

    Its a new development (i.e., Austria, then the rest of the world).

    Now that some country's are mandating them for all, I change my vote:

    It is the Mark.

    And anyone who tries to give it to me or my family is going to have a bad day.

    Come and get some!!!
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    Offline Matthew

    • Mod
    • *****
    • Posts: 32515
    • Reputation: +28728/-566
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
    « Reply #9 on: November 22, 2021, 01:54:47 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Its a new development (i.e., Austria, then the rest of the world).

    Now that some country's are mandating them for all, I change my vote:

    It is the Mark.

    And anyone who tries to give it to me or my family is going to have a bad day.

    Come and get some!!!


    It's sure at least a dress rehearsal for the real thing.

    I mean, you can't earn money, go to the store, "buy or sell" unless you have this injection.

    Does it have the Beast's name on it somewhere/somehow, or the number of his name?

    Also, where is the Antichrist at the moment? That's the only thing stopping me from full-on calling this poison injection the Mark.

    It's Eschatology 101 that the Mark of the Beast and the Antichrist are contemporary -- they happen at the same time. Also, that the Antichrist will be a MAN, not a system, not a movement.
    Want to say "thank you"? 
    You can send me a gift from my Amazon wishlist!
    https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

    Paypal donations: matthew@chantcd.com

    Offline Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 46170
    • Reputation: +27174/-5023
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
    « Reply #10 on: November 22, 2021, 04:42:52 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Sean, this font is unreadable.  Interesting content but it’s giving me a headache to read this stuff.


    Offline SeanJohnson

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 15060
    • Reputation: +10006/-3162
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
    « Reply #11 on: November 22, 2021, 05:37:07 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Sean, this font is unreadable.  Interesting content but it’s giving me a headache to read this stuff.

    Sometimes when I copy/paste from my phone, the font enlarges once I post it.  Not sure why.  If I have time, and the article is short, I come back within the editing window, and inch by inch, highlight the little section I can see, and remove formatting (then repeat, repeat, repeat, until I’ve covered the whole article).  In this case, I was up against the clock, and thought maybe a bad post is better than me forgetting it when I’m free later.  So that was my dilemma.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    Offline PAT317

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 913
    • Reputation: +787/-117
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
    « Reply #12 on: November 22, 2021, 06:40:17 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Sean, this font is unreadable.  Interesting content but it’s giving me a headache to read this stuff.

    I just clicked on the link to solve that problem. 

    Offline Yeti

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 4055
    • Reputation: +2394/-524
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
    « Reply #13 on: November 22, 2021, 07:32:13 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • When these "vaccines" are being made mandatory for all, how is this NOT the Mark of the Beast?
    .
    I don't think so. The mark of the beast will only be given to those who worship the Beast, and will simply be a sign or proof that one is a follower of the Beast. On the contrary, the jab is given freely to anyone who wants it.

    Offline 2Vermont

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 11312
    • Reputation: +6285/-1087
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Austrian SSPXers Have Had Enough
    « Reply #14 on: November 22, 2021, 07:35:29 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • .
    I don't think so. The mark of the beast will only be given to those who worship the Beast, and will simply be a sign or proof that one is a follower of the Beast. On the contrary, the jab is given freely to anyone who wants it.
    But the jab is not given "freely to those who want it".