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Auschwitz Stats in The Angelus
« on: April 14, 2018, 06:31:12 AM »
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  • Vindication (a sort of per-vindication if you will) of His Excellency Bishop Williamson is found in the very pages of The Angelus.  On p. 28 of the September 1997 issue in the lower left hand column is found a news blurb titled, "Auschwitz."  It reads as follows: "For years it has been claimed that 4 million Jews were gassed to death at this Nazi concentration camp of World War II.  But original camp records released recently by the Russians indicate that the number of deaths at the camp, from all causes and for all races, was more like .1 to .15 million, none from gas."

    cf. https://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/official-german-record-prisoners-auschwitz-concentration-camp-may-1940-december-1944/

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    Re: Auschwitz Stats in The Angelus
    « Reply #1 on: April 14, 2018, 05:37:59 PM »
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  • On p. 28 of the September 1997 issue (of The Angelus) in the lower left hand column is found a news blurb titled, "Auschwitz."  It reads as follows: "For years it has been claimed that 4 million Jews were gassed to death at this Nazi concentration camp of World War II.  But original camp records released recently by the Russians indicate that the number of deaths at the camp, from all causes and for all races, was more like .1 to .15 million, none from gas."

    Wouldn't it be interesting to show this portion to the present day sspx leadership. 

    Bp. Fellay, do you still stand by this assertion?
    Bp. Fellay, do you believe what your organization apparently once believed, viz. that a maximum of 150,000 people died at Auschwitz from all causes?

    Fellay is too cagey to be cornered with questions like these.  You could never get in front of him to ask them.
    But it doesn't prevent some of you, with present attachments to sspx chapels, from posing these same questions to your chapel priest(s), does it?
    I'd be interested to hear the results.


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    Re: Auschwitz Stats in The Angelus
    « Reply #2 on: April 15, 2018, 04:52:03 PM »
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  • Ihttp://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/

    No revisionist has come up with a sufficient explanation for this, though none can deny the authenticity of the document. See here for the “best” attempt:

    https://codoh.com/library/document/2687/?lang=en

    If you’re a native German speaker you will understand how ludicrous the suggestion is.

    An explanation of this can be found here 

    http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/a/abels-nele/vergasungskeller-essay.html but then I know that, like with the Flat Earth, people like you rarely if ever read the rebuttals to the supposed slam-dunk arguments for your case.

    As for these alleged microfilms of camp records, this is what revisionist Germar Rudolf has to say

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    You are right, the article "Official German Record of Prisoners in Auschwitz Concentration Camp, May 1940 through December 1944," accredited to a "Dr. Germar Rudolf" was not authored by me. Actually, I have not contributed anything to that paper. In addition, I have never used a doctor title for anything which was published with my consent under my real name, because that would be fraudulent, as I do not possess a doctor title.

    The paper was written by Peter Stahl, aka Gregory Douglas. I was in frequent contact with him in 2000-2004, but had a major falling out with him in 2002/2003. He once offered me the files/microfilms he claims to have containing the figures published in this paper. I do not remember why I didn't get/obtain them. I probably had other more pressing issues and didn't exactly trust the guy anymore at that point.

    Hilarity ensues. If these microfilms exist, the person who alleged they do has never shown them to anyone. Do you people even bother with actually checking the sources for your citations and whether th claims they present are even evidenced? Do you know how academic research and review works? Or do you just take at face value everything you read which supports your predetermined beliefs?

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    Re: Auschwitz Stats in The Angelus
    « Reply #3 on: April 15, 2018, 04:53:48 PM »
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    Re: Auschwitz Stats in The Angelus
    « Reply #4 on: April 15, 2018, 07:45:45 PM »
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  • I agree with Bishop Williamson, there were 60,000 maybe who died?  And remember, do not refer to "it" as a holocaust.  Holocaust is defined as a burnt offering to God, which the jews are not.

    Then I question "records".  When there is war, records and etc. are destroyed.  The enemy does not wish to give themselves away.  


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    Re: Auschwitz Stats in The Angelus
    « Reply #5 on: April 15, 2018, 08:13:00 PM »
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  • Ihttp://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/

    No revisionist has come up with a sufficient explanation for this, though none can deny the authenticity of the document. See here for the “best” attempt:

    https://codoh.com/library/document/2687/?lang=en

    If you’re a native German speaker you will understand how ludicrous the suggestion is.

    An explanation of this can be found here

    http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/a/abels-nele/vergasungskeller-essay.html but then I know that, like with the Flat Earth, people like you rarely if ever read the rebuttals to the supposed slam-dunk arguments for your case.

    As for these alleged microfilms of camp records, this is what revisionist Germar Rudolf has to say

    Hilarity ensues. If these microfilms exist, the person who alleged they do has never shown them to anyone. Do you people even bother with actually checking the sources for your citations and whether th claims they present are even evidenced? Do you know how academic research and review works? Or do you just take at face value everything you read which supports your predetermined beliefs?

    Hmmm!  Interesting, I see you just registered today.

    Yup, even little old CathInfo is carefully monitored and you better believe that anything that "blasphemes" the Sacred 6 Million Myth/Dogma will cause all kinds of ire even among little old ladies sitting in front of computers in Tel Aviv.

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    Re: Auschwitz Stats in The Angelus
    « Reply #6 on: April 15, 2018, 10:23:51 PM »
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    Hmmm!  Interesting, I see you just registered today.
    Yeah, very interesting.  Look, the bishop is right on.  There were no extermination facilities at Aushwitz.  Jewish lies.  

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    Re: Auschwitz Stats in The Angelus
    « Reply #7 on: April 16, 2018, 05:51:34 AM »
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  • There is this notion floated in Western circles that the concept of free speech must not be allowed to apply when certain 'sacred' positions are being questioned. And this idea in the case of holocaust mythology is now part of reformist Rome's new religion. That is why I think she must be removed from the lives of serious traditionalists for reasons of utter incompatibility. Rome's new Catholic definition excludes Bp. Wiliamson and others who dare oppose the conciliar creed.


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    Re: Auschwitz Stats in The Angelus
    « Reply #8 on: April 16, 2018, 10:14:59 AM »
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  • There is this notion floated in Western circles that the concept of free speech must not be allowed to apply when certain 'sacred' positions are being questioned. And this idea in the case of holocaust mythology is now part of reformist Rome's new religion. That is why I think she must be removed from the lives of serious traditionalists for reasons of utter incompatibility. Rome's new Catholic definition excludes Bp. Wiliamson and others who dare oppose the conciliar creed.
    A very good point. Traditionalists leaders do not take this specific matter seriously enough. When you accept the basket of the legitimacy of the conciliar church, you must accept all of its contents.

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    Re: Auschwitz Stats in The Angelus
    « Reply #9 on: April 16, 2018, 10:24:50 AM »
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  • Your education here:



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    Re: Auschwitz Stats in The Angelus
    « Reply #10 on: April 16, 2018, 06:55:37 PM »
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    Re: Auschwitz Stats in The Angelus
    « Reply #11 on: April 17, 2018, 06:33:22 AM »
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  • A very good point. Traditionalists leaders do not take this specific matter seriously enough. When you accept the basket of the legitimacy of the conciliar church, you must accept all of its contents.
    This historical deformity has been given such biblical, doctrinal and practical import to render the R and R position harder and harder to maintain. It was logical for Ratzinger to disown Bp. W because it was consistent with this new theology. And even Bp. Fellay was moved to follow suit because he was not inclined to challenge Rome on this issue. No more bursts of reaction from the tamed Society!

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    Re: Auschwitz Stats in The Angelus
    « Reply #12 on: April 17, 2018, 04:38:33 PM »
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  • The Mystical Body of Christ, books by Fr. Fahey are very educational and are a need to read.

     

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