Author Topic: Attend the SSPX? Read this. (Read 14073 times)

Charlotte NC Bill · « **Reply #45 on:** August 28, 2015, 09:33:01 PM »

The SSPX still had a spell over me until Fr. Pfeiffer's first ( I call it ) declaration of Resistance homily against Menzingen's planned sell-out and re-orientation ( "re-branding" ). Then, after that, the expulsion of Williamson totally broke the spell. I'll never look at the SSPX the same way again. Whereas I once looked at them as a militant parallel Church now I see them as mostly "bells and smells conservative atmosphere peddlers". That might be a little harsh but so was the treatment ( totally unjust and cowardly ) that they showed Bp. Williamson.

JPaul · « **Reply #46 on:** August 28, 2015, 09:39:02 PM »

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Matthew, several years ago, a member of my extended family died and her children had a NO "funeral mass" in the chapel of the nursing home where she had lived. An SSPX priest I know said to go out of respect for our family, but to not participate in any way, so I took my missal, sat in an inconspicuous place, silently read my missal and silently prayed a rosary for the repose of her soul. I had not been near a NO church in many years, and the whole thing just repulsed me. It was more like a party than a Catholic funeral. The saddest part of it all was that she loved Tradition and never went to a NO mass in her life.

More bad advice from the SSPX. One should never attend a sacrilege out of concerns of human respect. There is a much higher principle involved in this.

Out of Catholic Charity in such cases one should not even consider a Novus Ordo funeral, but rather attend the graveside internment, pray the Catholic prayers for the dead, and say a Rosary for the repose of that soul. In this way you fulfill your Christian duty and do not violate the Sensus Catholicus and the principles which come from it.

If I recall correctly, even Archbishop Lefebvre attended a Novus Ordo wedding of a relative...

It is my understanding that the 1917 Canon Law allowed for Catholics to attend non-Catholic weddings and funeral services so long as they did not actively participate.

That is a pretty thin justification to attend the Novus Ordo. A Protestant service is nothing, it has no meaning or power. The Novus Ordo on the other hand is a mockery of Our Lord's Sacred action and a sacrilege. The 1917 code never imagined such a thing to be possible and canon law is not Divine law which forbids it.

I see what you are saying but what is the Divine Law that forbids it?

The Council of Trent for one.

2Vermont · « **Reply #47 on:** August 29, 2015, 06:08:17 AM »

Can you please quote what you are talking about?

JPaul · « **Reply #48 on:** August 29, 2015, 01:53:26 PM »

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CANON XIII.-If any one saith, that the received and approved rites of the Catholic Church, wont to be used in the solemn administration of the sacraments, may be contemned, or without sin be omitted at pleasure by the ministers, or be changed, by every pastor of the churches whomsoever, into other new ones; let him be anathema.

The New Service was created against the will of the Church and thus against the will of Christ. It is therefore always illicit (not allowed) and those who knowingly attend it, share in the sin of its creators.

Other of its features are subjects of prior condemnation by the solemn Magisterium.

The Church forbids one to approach a doubtful sacrament under pain of sin.

Plus it is always a sacrilege and blashphemy against the Holy Mass of the Church and exposing yourself as a witness to these evil things harms your soul.

2Vermont · « **Reply #49 on:** August 29, 2015, 02:17:29 PM »

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Seventh Session,
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CANON XIII.-If any one saith, that the received and approved rites of the Catholic Church, wont to be used in the solemn administration of the sacraments, may be contemned, or without sin be omitted at pleasure by the ministers, or be changed, by every pastor of the churches whomsoever, into other new ones; let him be anathema.

The New Service was created against the will of the Church and thus against the will of Christ. It is therefore always illicit (not allowed) and those who knowingly attend it, share in the sin of its creators.

Other of its features are subjects of prior condemnation by the solemn Magisterium.

The Church forbids one to approach a doubtful sacrament under pain of sin.

Plus it is always a sacrilege and blashphemy against the Holy Mass of the Church and exposing yourself as a witness to these evil things harms your soul.

Couldn't the same be said of the Anglican service? And yet Canon Law in 1917 said Catholics could attend weddings and funerals just not actively participate. Did Canon Law contradict Divine Law?