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Offline Mr G

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Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2019, 10:20:51 AM »
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    • There is no mention of the change in the bulletin and the Thursday schedule is that of Holy Day (same as Sunday): https://smac.edu/sites/sspx/files/media/bulletin_05_26_2019.pdf
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    Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
    « Reply #31 on: May 28, 2019, 06:02:11 PM »
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    • JMJ2cents, it was Fr. Carlyle that announced it off the pulpit , I believe at all the Masses .
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    Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
    « Reply #32 on: May 28, 2019, 07:24:14 PM »
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    • The pastor of Assumption Church in Walton, KY, Father Muscha, announced last year that Ascension Thursday is no longer  a holyday of obligation,  BUT he said the day would still be celebrated with the same solemnity as always. 
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    Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
    « Reply #33 on: May 28, 2019, 07:53:31 PM »
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    • I remembered this subject being discussed last year here in Cath Info. It was titled: "Is the obligation to attend Mass on Ascension Thursday binding according to SSPX?" dated May 11, 2018. it appears on either page 28 or 29.  It contains interesting comments, but unfortunately it went some other direction. It was started after Father Thomas Asher, SSPX  wrote about the subject. For anyone who would like to review what was said back then...
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    Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
    « Reply #34 on: May 28, 2019, 08:46:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: AveCorMariae on May 28, 2019, 07:53:31 PM
    I remembered this subject being discussed last year here in Cath Info. It was titled: "Is the obligation to attend Mass on Ascension Thursday binding according to SSPX?" dated May 11, 2018. it appears on either page 28 or 29.  It contains interesting comments, but unfortunately it went some other direction. It was started after Father Thomas Asher, SSPX  wrote about the subject. For anyone who would like to review what was said back then...
    https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/is-the-obligation-to-attend-mass-on-ascension-thursday-binding-according-to-sspx/

    The Ascension is still a Holyday of obligation on Thursday in the Ukrainian Catholic church. The Eastern Churches can transfer holy days to a Sunday, but to the best of my knowledge, even the Maronites have Ascension as a holyday of obligation on Thursday, and they are the most likely to follow modern Roman practice.
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    Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
    « Reply #35 on: May 28, 2019, 08:48:38 PM »
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    • ASCENSION OF THE LORD, Holyday of Obligation: Wed., May 29, 7:30 PM Anticipated Mass; Thurs., May 30,  8:00 AM Mass and 7:30 PM Mass

    Mater Ecclesiae Berlin, 
    New Jersey. 

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    Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
    « Reply #36 on: May 28, 2019, 10:27:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on May 28, 2019, 08:48:38 PM
    Mater Ecclesiae Berlin, New Jersey.
    That's consistent with the modern western church. In about ten US states - including New Jersey - Thursday is the holyday and it hasn't been moved to Sunday.
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    Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
    « Reply #37 on: May 29, 2019, 10:19:53 AM »
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    • The current 2019 SSPX calendar lists Holy Days of Obligation as:
    All Sundays -  The Octave of the Nativity,  The Ascension, The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, The Feast of All Saints, The Immaculate Conception, and Christmas Day.

    This Thursday, The Ascension, the mass schedule is the same as it's been on all previous Ascension Thursday's, the same as a Sunday with all 6 masses scheduled.  On the school calendar it is noted, "Thursday, May 30th: Ascension Thursday Holy Day of Obligation - NO Classes."

    Yes, the SSPX priests consider Ascension Thursday a holy day of obligation and is to be celebrated on Thursday and they do expect everybody to attend mass on Thursday despite what the local district in Kansas says.
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    Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
    « Reply #38 on: May 29, 2019, 10:31:53 AM »
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    • Quote from: madwoman on May 29, 2019, 10:19:53 AM
    The current 2019 SSPX calendar lists Holy Days of Obligation as:
    All Sundays -  The Octave of the Nativity,  The Ascension, The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, The Feast of All Saints, The Immaculate Conception, and Christmas Day.

    This Thursday, The Ascension, the mass schedule is the same as it's been on all previous Ascension Thursday's, the same as a Sunday with all 6 masses scheduled.  On the school calendar it is noted, "Thursday, May 30th: Ascension Thursday Holy Day of Obligation - NO Classes."

    Yes, the SSPX priests consider Ascension Thursday a holy day of obligation and is to be celebrated on Thursday and they do expect everybody to attend mass on Thursday despite what the local district in Kansas says.
    Did you hear that from an SSPX priests or are you making that assumption? Does he then admit Fr. Carlyle was wrong to have made the announcement? 

    For clarification, when you say "local district in Kansas", do you mean to say "the U.S. SSPX District in Platte City, MO" or did you mean to say "the archdioceses of Kansas City"?
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    Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
    « Reply #39 on: May 29, 2019, 10:46:16 AM »
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    • The Archdioceses, not the SSPX in Plate City.
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    Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
    « Reply #40 on: May 29, 2019, 10:50:35 AM »
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    • Platte City, sorry spelling error.
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    Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
    « Reply #41 on: May 29, 2019, 11:35:29 AM »
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    • I always find this type of conversation fascinating since the US is still mostly mission territory and the idea of abrogation of Holy Days in the US was ALWAYS on the table traditionally at every meeting of bishops from the first council of Baltimore. If the bishops do this thing which was asked for by most bishops almost always in this ecclesiastical area, what makes the decision problematic?
    The SSPX has been non servicing chapels on Holy Days for years.
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    Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
    « Reply #42 on: June 02, 2019, 03:58:05 PM »
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    • The Dioceses of New York and Brooklyn (all of NYC), have transferred Ascension Day to the following Sat. vigil or Sunday.  The "diocese" of the NYC Parking Authority faithfully adheres to Church tradition and honors Our Lord by cancelling Alternate Side Parking on Ascension Thursday. Because Catholics won't offer Him due worship, He has raised up the lowly and despised distributor of fines, tickets, boots, and tows to the impound lot.
    Since the Church in NY denied me the opportunity to hear the true Mass, I took advantage, with thanks to God, of parking directly in front of my residence.
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    Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
    « Reply #43 on: June 02, 2019, 04:04:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: confederate catholic on May 29, 2019, 11:35:29 AM
    I always find this type of conversation fascinating since the US is still mostly mission territory and the idea of abrogation of Holy Days in the US was ALWAYS on the table traditionally at every meeting of bishops from the first council of Baltimore. 
    I have never heard of this before, nor do I believe any of it, what is your source?
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    Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
    « Reply #44 on: June 05, 2019, 06:49:59 PM »
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    • Get a copy of Cathedrals in the wilderness the biography of Bishop Flaget or any other book of history of the church in the US
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