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Offline JmJ2cents

Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2019, 09:42:10 AM »
UNBELIEVABlE!!!! HOW SAD!!!!!!
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2019, 09:53:25 AM »
I don't understand the uproar.

If the V2 Hierarchy are legitimate, then they are perfectly within their rights to lift the obligation here.  Is it good or ideal?  Certainly not.  But can any of you who consider the Novus Ordo hierarchy to be legitimate take it upon yourselves to tell people that they commit mortal sin if they don't attend Mass on Thursday?  Who's binding consciences now under pain of sin?  Only legitimate Church authority can do that.

Even if you hold the V2 Hierarchy to be "doubtful", then the obligation is doubtful, and doubtful obligations cannot bind under pain of sin.  I see the SSPX as being merely consistent.

Please help me to understand how this is incorrect reasoning.

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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2019, 10:02:37 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on May 28, 2019, 09:53:25 AM
I don't understand the uproar.

If the V2 Hierarchy are legitimate, then they are perfectly within their rights to lift the obligation here.  Is it good or ideal?  Certainly not.  But can any of you who consider the Novus Ordo hierarchy to be legitimate take it upon yourselves to tell people that they commit mortal sin if they don't attend Mass on Thursday?  Who's binding consciences now under pain of sin?  Only legitimate Church authority can do that.

Even if you hold the V2 Hierarchy to be "doubtful", then the obligation is doubtful, and doubtful obligations cannot bind under pain of sin.  I see the SSPX as being merely consistent.

Please help me to understand how this is incorrect reasoning.

Unfortunately, this is exactly correct.

Still, it might have been nice to hear why moving the feast to Sunday is scandalous (and theologically erroneous).  But that isn’t going to happen in the ralliement era (especially not at that chapel, with its band leader, it’s roller coaster riding priest, and the old “mortal sin to refuse a deal with Rome” sermons, etc.).
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Offline JmJ2cents

Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2019, 10:07:14 AM »
This change occurred "officially" since 1991.  The loaded question is to "WHY" now mention it?  Why haven't they been announcing it for 28 years?  What is different this year than last year.  Did the Superiors not know that these things could be legitimately changed until this year?  Could it have anything to do with the fact that the SSPX are now one of the factions in the Conciliar Church like all the other Dei Ecclesia Members?  This is part of the slow reconciliation?  
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Offline JmJ2cents

Re: Ascension Thursday no longer Holy Day of Obligation
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2019, 10:08:13 AM »
I meant Ecclesia Dei.  ^
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