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Bishop Williamson Expelled from the SSPX

By John Vennari

October 24: It is confirmed from Menzingen today that Bishop Richard Williamson has been expelled from the Society of Saint Pius X. The news fills me with great sadness.

This break has been coming for some time; it is one of those tragic events one sees in advance yet is powerless to prevent.

I never forget a kindness, and Bishop Williamson had been good to me over the years. Though we have not communicated as often since his departure from Winona in 2003, I still owe him a debt of gratitude. In the mid 1990s, in highly unusual circuмstances, I was able to study at-a-distance for the priesthood for two years through the Winona seminary, which Bishop Williamson made possible. Though I did not follow through to the priesthood, the formation I received was invaluable.

I am also grateful for him introducing Dr. David Allen White to us all, since we learned about Dr. White through his magnificent lectures on Shakespeare at Winona
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The root cause of this latest discord, of course, is the crisis in the Church caused by the Second Vatican Council, which has been a source of division even among good men.

It is not my intention to step in between warring factions, as in cases like this there are often faults on both sides and it is not my mission to root out all the details. Further, I have been in the traditionalist movement for 32 years and have seen how ugly these fights can become. Yes, I too scratched my head at some of Bishop Williamson’s recent words and actions, and I believe the infamous “h0Ɩ0cαųst” interview was a mistake, yet I will not join in the blanket condemnations against him. As for all else, I will keep my own counsel.

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This is a very fast and changing situation within the SSPX....One moment there are those who stand for one thing, and then for another.  Somewhat like a rollercoaster ride, and we need to be buckled in tight.  I hope that helps for everyone who is looking for more information, updates, and whatever is reported here or there.  Follow the Truth, prayer and action - with Truth foremost.

What does the "h0Ɩ0cαųst" interview have to do with anything?

Another castrated fella on the fence! Shame on you, Vennari!


Goodness!
 :really-mad2:

              Italian Soldiers Surrendering during World War II



Mr. Vennari's article reminds me of the old "dropped guns" joke about Italian fighting prowess during WWII.

You see, today, when shopping for antique military rifles, the price is typically determined by the gun's general condition and the wear from the estimated number of rounds shot through the barrel.

In the case of vintage Italian rifles, they are not devalued by the number of bullets shot through them, but by the number of times they were "dropped".

In other words, their soldiers dropped their rifles and ran, rather than engage the fight*.
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 The point being, Mr. Vennari doesn't want to engage the fight.

 He's comfortable receiving lauds and advertising orders from the SSPX's
 District headquarters, while using the  "I want to play it neutral"  cover.
 
 He's been selling newspapers covering the evil newRome meanies for
 years. Sneaking into Conciliar gatherings and imitating a war  
 correspondent, is his specialty.  For the SSPX battle, not a peep from him?
   
 Mr. Vennari is a smart man.
 He knows the evil meanies have pentrated and created the neoSSPX.

 Unless he fights, his newspaper will begin to represent another pathetic betrayal
 of our once faithful Catholic press.
 
 In general, the trad newspapers know the outcome of the SSPX vs neoSSPX
 fight is "THE KEY STORY", in the battle to save Catholic tradition.

 Yet they act as if "bought-off", purposely refusing to cover it.

 Fear not my Catholic friends.

 Soon, for our very souls, newspaper-men and all of us will have to choose
 between the Spirit of +ABL or the spirit of the neo SSPX.

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*In the days immediately following the Armistice between Italy and Allied armed forces (September 8, 1943), The Germans disarmed and captured 1,007,000 Italian soldiers. Of these, 196,000 fled during the deportation. Of the remaining approximately 810,000 (of which 58,000 were caught in France, 321,000 in Italy and 430,000 in the Balkans) Source: wiki-judei

There's much food for thought there, Ethelred.  And it's both sobering and heart wrenching at the same time.  We, Americans, have no idea what the German people lived through and still live today.  We'd do well to remember that in the days ahead.  

Is John Vennari willing to outline as to why he believes "infamous “h0Ɩ0cαųst” interview" to have been a "mistake". What is his objection with a Bishop telling the truth?

Can he outline further the "I will keep my own counsel." comment? Any particular reason?

What, we need another enabler now?  I had thought more highly of Mr. Vennari
yesterday than I do today.  On an occasion such as this, if you had asked me who
wrote it, I would not have guessed J.V. -- it sounds more like M.M. -- let's hope he
reads this thread and does a few moves to fix the damage.  

Lepanto_Again has it right..................again!    :rolleyes:


Hey, John, pick up the slack before your next CFN goes to press or you'll be
losing your support base quick......................  :shocked:

I'm guessing he has just lost a few subscribers.

Bishop Williamson just told the truth.

Exactly. Material is available if people wish to study the subject further. The interview was actually positive because a new generation of people starting looking at the 'h0Ɩ0cαųst' and non Catholics were very impressed by the Bishop. It has brought quite a few to Tradition and got people questioning more.

Even in the interview, the Bishop mentions it is not about name calling but about the truth. He based his reply on the evidence which is available. He studied the historical, scientific,docuмentary evidence.

Vennari is clearly on the side of Bishop Fellay.

The root cause of this latest discord, of course, is the crisis in the Church caused by the Second Vatican Council, which has been a source of division even among good men.

It is not my intention to step in between warring factions, as in cases like this there are often faults on both sides and it is not my mission to root out all the details. Further, I have been in the traditionalist movement for 32 years and have seen how ugly these fights can become. Yes, I too scratched my head at some of Bishop Williamson’s recent words and actions, and I believe the infamous “h0Ɩ0cαųst” interview was a mistake, yet I will not join in the blanket condemnations against him. As for all else, I will keep my own counsel.

I thought Vennari said he wasn't going to condemn the Bishop.He just did.

and I believe the infamous “h0Ɩ0cαųst” interview was a mistake, yet I will not join in the blanket condemnations against him

As for the root cause of the crisis, it goes much further back than Vatican II.

Vennari doesn't specify which words and actions.

Yes, I too scratched my head at some of Bishop Williamson’s recent words and actions