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Author Topic: Archbishop Vigano to Traditional Catholics Stay and Fight:  (Read 3720 times)

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Re: Archbishop Vigano to Traditional Catholics Stay and Fight:
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2020, 04:35:36 AM »
Why are you trying to get Catholics to support the conciliar church?
She's not. She's suggesting Vigano's call to "stay in the Church" is a call to reconcile with the Conciliar Church, and one that will lead to Trads being betrayed by the Conciliar Church in the same way the Brits betrayed the Acadians. She might be wrong in her interpretation of Vigano's message, but it's literally the opposite of supporting the Conciliar Church. 

Re: Archbishop Vigano to Traditional Catholics Stay and Fight:
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2020, 06:26:04 AM »
She's not. She's suggesting Vigano's call to "stay in the Church" is a call to reconcile with the Conciliar Church, and one that will lead to Trads being betrayed by the Conciliar Church in the same way the Brits betrayed the Acadians. She might be wrong in her interpretation of Vigano's message, but it's literally the opposite of supporting the Conciliar Church.
Hmm.  This is very confusing.  I think Songbird must be controlled by Opus Dei Jews.  Yes, that’s clear enough.  Hopefully she can clear up all her confusing contradictions.  I just don’t understand why she loves Vatican II so much.  Why does she want us to become conciliarists and accept the new theology?  Very confusing.


Re: Archbishop Vigano to Traditional Catholics Stay and Fight:
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2020, 07:59:18 AM »
OK, I’m done trolling Songbird now.

Just wanted to give her a taste of her own medicine by attributing positions to her she clearly doesn’t hold (ie., just as she is doing to Vigano).

It seems there is a certain strain of sede that doesn’t want to understand the eminently clear and straightforward R&R position of Vigano, and desires to sow confusion where perfect clarity exists (at least for those not poisoned by sede ecclesiology).

I am content now to let that strain continue confusing each other, acting as if they had just heard the Chewbacca defense, but note the new tactic:

If Vigano is not sede, he is a priori confusing, contradictory, and conciliarist.

Puhlease.


Re: Archbishop Vigano to Traditional Catholics Stay and Fight:
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2020, 03:52:12 PM »

It seems there is a certain strain of sede that doesn’t want to understand the eminently clear and straightforward R&R position of Viganò, and desires to sow confusion where perfect clarity exists (at least for those not poisoned by sede ecclesiology).

A year ago I might have said that you were overstating the case here, but now I'm afraid I agree. The sede faction on this site used to complain bitterly of the intolerance of those holding the R&R position,* but having now gained a strong footing themselves, they are disinclined to extend respect or even courtesy to those they disagree with.
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*It shouldn't be forgotten that "recognize and resist" is in its origins a sneer term coined by sedevacantists in mockery of the entirely reasonable conclusion that the problem of evil—specifically, evil in ordained and consecrated clergy and prelates—cannot be solved by laymen who simply and uncanonically accord themselves the authority to declare the pope and the bishops no longer legitimate holders of their seats. Because the term accurately describes what Fr. Gommar DePauw, Archbishop Lefebvre, and thousands upon thousands of other Traditional Catholics believed and acted upon, the sneer has been turned on its head and is now worn as a badge of honor.

Re: Archbishop Vigano to Traditional Catholics Stay and Fight:
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2020, 05:54:43 PM »
OK, I’m done trolling Songbird now.

Just wanted to give her a taste of her own medicine by attributing positions to her she clearly doesn’t hold (ie., just as she is doing to Vigano).

It seems there is a certain strain of sede that doesn’t want to understand the eminently clear and straightforward R&R position of Vigano, and desires to sow confusion where perfect clarity exists (at least for those not poisoned by sede ecclesiology).

I am content now to let that strain continue confusing each other, acting as if they had just heard the Chewbacca defense, but note the new tactic:

If Vigano is not sede, he is a priori confusing, contradictory, and conciliarist.

Puhlease.


Now I get it!