Author Topic: Archbishop Viganò: Our Lady warned of ‘great apostasy’ in Church  (Read 455 times)

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  •  :jester:
    Men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple ... Jerome points this out. (St. Robert Bellarmine)


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  • I'm not quite buying the authenticity of this particular set of phenomena.  I find the language of the apparitions to be somewhat banal, there's very little new here, and I fail to see the point of why Our Lady would appear in this way to say these things.  At no point does our Lady call out the infiltration of the Church but keeps referring to problems "within" the Church.  I would expect a message from Our Lady to include instructions to stop attending the NOM.

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  • Especially interesting was the part about the Third Secret of the little girl being the same as the Third Secret of Fatima. This suggests that Archbishop Vigano is in possession of the actual Third Secret and may explain his move away from conciliar Rome toward tradition.
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  • The little girl compared her Secret with the 3rd Secret but said she was not going to reveal the contents.  So I dont think Vigano got the 3rd secret from the girl.  
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    Why would Our Lady not allow the revelation?  Maybe it was to bring awareness to the 3rd Secret, and Fatima in general, considering many thought Fatima was “over” after JP2s non-consecration in the 80s.
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    Maybe this mid-90s “quasi-Fatima event” forced the Modernists in new-rome to release the fake 3rd Secret in 2000?  This fake release opened more people’s eyes to new-Rome’s lies.  
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    Certainly Vigano was impressed by this event.  He probably pieced together the 3rd Secret from the many interviews given by those who have read it.  It’s not hard to do.  


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  • If he has the so-called 3rd secret, he never moved from the Councilor.  IF he went from councilor to what, Indult or even Pius X, could he play pretender, like Jews do?

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  • No, the secret wasn't given to +Vigano but to the girl's bishop (I forget his name offhand).  +Vigano is just telling the story.

    I am puzzled by what the intent would be to re-release the Third Secret to a different Modernist bishop.

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  • Although the manifest heretics Schneider and Brandmüller cannot be accused to even have mentioned the name of the self-admitted former 50-years manifest heretic Viganò since 9th of June, recently the manifest heretic Sandro Magister has reacted as if he believes that Viganò is well and a alive and as if Viganò really has said what Viganò is quoted to have said on a few websites. Like Brandmüller, Magister reiterates Ratzingerian hermeneutics.

    Given this new boring "great-apostasy-third-secret-viganò"-video in the opening post, I can only :jester: again.


    As far as I could find, beside sede- and resistance-trads, only a few anonymous commentators have congratulated Viganò, with one exception: Prof. Enrico Maria Radaelli, disciple of Iota Unum-author Romano Amerio. Some eight or so years ago, Radaelli already was the most outspoken and most acceptable of those "Italian intellectuals" which accompanied those SSPX "doctrinal discussions".

    While Viganò is "in hiding" that Opus Dei lifesitenews Joker trying to sell folks celestial apparitions.

    I think as I said before: That's ViganQ not Viganò. That's a propaganda hoax.
    Men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple ... Jerome points this out. (St. Robert Bellarmine)


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    only a few anonymous commentators have congratulated Viganò, with one exception:
    Well, you don’t know where to look, as +Vigano’s interviews are all over the conservative novus ordo sites.  Lifesite News, Dr Marshall Taylor, and OnePeterFive.com all are positive about the comments condemning V2.  None of these sites are Trad sites. 

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  • Well, you don’t know where to look, as +Vigano’s interviews are all over the conservative novus ordo sites.  Lifesite News, Dr Marshall Taylor, and OnePeterFive.com all are positive about the comments condemning V2.  None of these sites are Trad sites.

    Well, I consider these bloggers and youtubers like Taylor or Skojec as rather nameless. Same with e.g. Tosatti.

    In the meantime, retired Novus-Ordo-Archbishop Viganò has found one other retired Novus-Ordo-Archbishop (of Ferrara-Comacchio) Luigi Negri, who cautiously offered consent to the former's theses.
    Men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple ... Jerome points this out. (St. Robert Bellarmine)


     

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