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Offline Meg


Have you read that Randy Engel piece on Louis Verrecchio's site from 2018 about Vigano? It was linked two or so days ago in the other Vigano thread by andy.

This whole pile of Vigano letters may be an Opus Dei political media stunt. Novus Ordo political b*tch war.

Interesting that AndyS put up a link to an article that is critical (I assume) of Vigano. AndyS holds the same position as you do regarding Vigano, is that correct?

Why would Opus Dei write Vigano's letters as a political media stunt?

Interesting that AndyS put up a link to an article that is critical (I assume) of Vigano.

Not AndyS but andy: andy's post


AndyS holds the same position as you do regarding Vigano, is that correct?

I don't hold any position regarding Viganò. So far I've been speculating. I am not aware of a position of AndyS.



Why would Opus Dei write Vigano's letters as a political media stunt?

See that Randy Engel piece.


Offline Meg

Not AndyS but andy: andy's post


I don't hold any position regarding Viganò. So far I've been speculating. I am not aware of a position of AndyS.



See that Randy Engel piece.

My apologies for getting the wrong Andy. Thanks for the correction.

I read most of the Randy Engel piece that was linked to. The info, if correct is disturbing. I don't trust Randy Engel to actually assess any situation objectively, since in the past she has asserted many things that can't be proven. She speculates a lot. However, if her research is correct, then Vigano may indeed have an Opus Dei connection himself, but she hasn't found a direct personal connection of Vigano to Opus Dei.

She says that Aldo Maria Valli was the first to publish Vigano's testimony, and that Valli is a member of Opus Dei. She also says that Marco Tosatti has connections to Opus Dei in that he has been supportive of Opus Dei members and causes, and that Valli himself says that he has been influenced by Esciva's writings. (So probably not member of opus Dei, but a fan).

Engel also says that Opus Dei has established or taken over EWTN, National Catholic Register and Lifesite News.

She says, regarding Vigano's top two ghostwriters:
"Thus far, this writer has concretely docuмented that Vigano's top two ghostwriters have serious connections to Opus Dei, as has the official translator of Viganos works."

Engel also writes about Vigano's interference with the diocesan investigation into Nienstadt. She contends that if Vigano really cares about the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ problems in the Church, then he should correct his former stance reagarding Nienstadt (or words to that effect).

So all in all, Engel's article brings up some really good questions.

Offline Ladislaus

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Have you read that Randy Engel piece on Louis Verrecchio's site from 2018 about Vigano? It was linked two or so days ago in the other Vigano thread by andy.

This whole pile of Vigano letters may be an Opus Dei political media stunt. Novus Ordo political b*tch war.

You have some big schismatic stick up your posterior about +Vigano.


https://books.google.com/books?id=9p0_AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA196&lpg=PA196&dq=negative+doubt,+moral+theology&source=bl&ots=dU63pxtpv9&sig=ACfU3U2zV3QeRZmTUdPN4iVpDzMRhsuAcQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiV5fyzxZDqAhXHHM0KHZ-lBpYQ6AEwDHoECAYQAQ

Seeing as there is no real basis or evidence to support the Opus Dei/Vigano connection, I thought I woud copy/paste this blurb on "negative doubt" (i.e., harboring doubts without any well-founded reason).  "A negative doubt is to be despised."

Of course, the principle is used for determining the morality of human acts (which is not under consideration here), yet it is also useful in the present case, in pointing out that ill-founded doubts are to be dismissed the same as temptations (which is almost what they are).