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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Archbishop Viganò: 'Heretical Propositions in Vatican II should be Condemned'
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2020, 11:11:37 AM »
Not only did he, as I suggested, have to take the next step of rejecting V2 entirely as a Robber Council (I predicted this as the logical consequence of his previous letter), but he goes further and agrees with it being characterized as a "devilish council".

Now we hope that he'll start grappling with the question of how a Council approved by a legitimate pope could be a "devilish council".

Here's my previous post:
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Of course, the LOGICAL conclusion of his previous reasoning, when laid out in a syllogism, is that Vatican II was not a legitimate Council but, rather a Robber Council.
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Archbishop Viganò: 'Heretical Propositions in Vatican II should be Condemned'
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2020, 11:33:33 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on June 18, 2020, 11:11:37 AM
Not only did he, as I suggested, have to take the next step of rejecting V2 entirely as a Robber Council (I predicted this as the logical consequence of his previous letter), but he goes further and agrees with it being characterized as a "devilish council".

Now we hope that he'll start grappling with the question of how a Council approved by a legitimate pope could be a "devilish council".

Here's my previous post:
Bingo.  His comments about invalidating a previous Council sounds more like a Council that was NOT approved and promulgated by a (true) pope; not promulgated in union with the pope.  

Vatican II can not be equated with the Synod of Pistoia and its eventual condemnation because it was not originally approved and promulgated by the pope.
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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

Re: Archbishop Viganò: 'Heretical Propositions in Vatican II should be Condemned'
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2020, 11:36:23 AM »
vatican II is the counter church and new religion.  

It should all be condemned.  
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Archbishop Viganò: 'Heretical Propositions in Vatican II should be Condemned'
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2020, 12:40:56 PM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on June 18, 2020, 11:33:33 AM
Bingo.  His comments about invalidating a previous Council sounds more like a Council that was NOT approved and promulgated by a (true) pope; not promulgated in union with the pope.  

Vatican II can not be equated with the Synod of Pistoia and its eventual condemnation because it was not originally approved and promulgated by the pope.

Yes, he'll need to come to grips with how a Council approved by a "Pope" could become a "devil's council".  Perhaps as he imbibes more deeply from Traditional Catholic eccleisology, the light will come on.  We need to pray for him, since he could make a big difference in the fight.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Archbishop Viganò: 'Heretical Propositions in Vatican II should be Condemned'
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2020, 12:43:29 PM »
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on June 18, 2020, 11:36:23 AM
vatican II is the counter church and new religion.  

It should all be condemned.  

And that's basically what Archbishop Vigano says in this letter.  He says it should be blotted out completely, the whole thing, and its whole "spirit", and that we should revert to Tradition ... not just have a few propositions condemned or revised.

This is the same argument Bishop Williamson has long made against +Fellay, that +Fellay is wrong that only 5% of the Council is bad, that the entire thing is polluted.  Archbishop Vigano here agrees with this.  Leaving that abomination on the books as an official Church Council would be a blight on the Catholic Church from which the Church's holiness, indefectibility, and Magisterial reliability could never recover.  How could any Catholic really take the Magisterium seriously ever again?
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