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Author Topic: Archbishop Viganò: 'Heretical Propositions in Vatican II should be Condemned'  (Read 5580 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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Ladislaus subject to his self-declared anathema:  :jester:


There's no grappling needed, since the proposition is heretical.



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You embarrass yourself with every post.  Not only do you struggle with logic, but you need help with reading comprehension.  My point was precisely said with the hope that +Vigano would come to terms with the PROBLEMS with that particular statement.  VIGANO is the one who needs to grapple with the problem, as I clearly indicated.

Offline Pax Vobis

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No they haven't, Pax.  Name another new-Rome official who has admitted that the "error in V2 is a major problem."  Even the most conservative of them simply tried to claim that there was a workable hermeneutic of continuity.  Some have, of course, said that the Council CAUSED problems, but wrote it off towards the liberals who exploited various ambiguities and set up a "spirit" of the Council that is contrary to the Council's "true intent".
+Vigano has gone the furthest in condemning V2, but as was just pointed out, +Lazo also condemned it.  Then you have +Castro Meyer, who converted from V2-ism.  I wrongly used the word "many" but there's more than a few.  But my point was, +Vigano isn't the first one to challenge V2.  He's the first one to say scrap it, for sure. 
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But back to +Vigano, here's another letter he wrote on May 8, getting over 40,000 signatures at the time, condemning the use of the pandemic as a march towards a nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr:
https://www.marcotosatti.com/2020/05/14/viganos-appeal-to-church-and-world-has-40-000-signatories/
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I think this guy finally understands the "end game"...the anti-Christ...the "final solution"... and he now sees how V2 fits into the bigger picture.  He's "Trad woke"!  haha.  (Well, at least most non-sspx Trads are woke).


Offline Ladislaus

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+Vigano has gone the furthest in condemning V2, but as was just pointed out, +Lazo also condemned it.  Then you have +Castro Meyer, who converted from V2-ism.  I wrongly used the word "many" but there's more than a few.  But my point was, +Vigano isn't the first one to challenge V2.  He's the first one to say scrap it, for sure.
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But back to +Vigano, here's another letter he wrote on May 8, getting over 40,000 signatures at the time, condemning the use of the pandemic as a march towards a nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr:
https://www.marcotosatti.com/2020/05/14/viganos-appeal-to-church-and-world-has-40-000-signatories/
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I think this guy finally understands the "end game"...the anti-Christ...the "final solution"... and he now sees how V2 fits into the bigger picture.  He's "Trad woke"!  haha.  (Well, at least most non-sspx Trads are woke).

Yes, I like the term "Trad woke".  He's definitely that.  Now the question is what he plans on doing about it.

Offline Ladislaus

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Some of us are waiting for improvements in your own reading comprehension, in particular that Remnant interview...

So StJames is back ^^^

Offline Meg

My conversations with Resistance priests and bishops in the last week or so reveals a like-mindedness regarding the amazing "conversion-in-progress" of Vigano:

1) You have to go all the way back to Bishop Lazo to find a similar rejection of Vatican II by a conciliar prelate;

2) His conversion is inspiring, but not yet complete;

3) We should hope and pray he continues along the path he has started;

4) The enemies of Christ fear to have a new high ranking (albeit retired) churchman reject Vatican II: Lefebvre 2.0.

Well said. 

However, the enemies of Christ in the conciliar church may not fear Vigano unless Vigano's many communications result in other conciliar church hierarchy members also refuting Vll and the conciliar revolution. I've not seen that that's happened yet. 

It's good that Vigano has allies in the Italian media who publish his communications. It's likely that more than a few Catholics will wake up to the reality of the conciliar revolution through Viganos' testimony. It may slow down the full-on push by Francis and his evil collaborators, but Vigano can't really stop them unless there are more bishops like him. 

If the SSPX were to convert back to the stance of +ABL and publish solid refutations of the Modernist agenda in the conciliar church today (as Vigano does), there might be a chance of the Modernist revolution slowing down even further, but that's not going to happen. The Neo-SSPX leadership is wimpy, and they are happy to remain as such.