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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: Enoc on July 28, 2013, 09:22:02 PM
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I want to call your attention to a common interpretation of the Apocalipsis given by Fr. Castellani which applies very well to the actual crisis inside the SSPX:
1- The 7 trompets of the Apocalipsis refer to the 7 mayor heresies along the history of the Catholich Church, between the 1st and the 2nd coming of Our Lord JesusChrist. The last heresy number 7 is Modernism. The Great Harlot fornicating with the Kings of the eath is the Vat II new religión (this interpretation is ours). All those who follow or compromise with the harlot are called fornicators. The 140,000 virgins who follow the Lamb (Our Lord), are those who have not been stained in anyway by the false religión of the harlot. All these brings the great light that it is at the doctrinal level that one becomes reyected because unfaithfulness to Our Lord. The SSPX has not yet married the harlot, but it is already boyfriend, trying to marry her. If it is already a mortal sin to look at with lust a women; with how much gravity will be judge he who wants to marry a harlot who is not Catholic? Therefore it does not matter that the SSPX has not yet made an agreemeent with Rome, the SSPX has already sinned in her heart and in his courting the harlot.
Cardinal Pie said: " It is at the doctrinal level that the battles are won or lost and what decides the future; to wait to see the consecuences to react,
it will be already to late to fight, this was the error of catholics at the XIX century in front of the errors of the french revolution".
It is clear, the SSPX as institution has betrayed already Our Lord. At the individual level, those priests who have not reacted strongly yet, have a very heavy complicity in the betrayal.
2.- We read in the Apocalipsis that the 2 witness who will fight against the Antichist will be defeated by him. How then can the SSPX claim proudly that she can not be defeated? She has been already been defeated, that is the reality.
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Behold the explanation of Father Castellani regarding the vision of the Apocalipsis concerning the "Great Harlot":
In Sacred Scriptures, women is a symbol for "religion".
"The harlot" is the religion being corrupted.
"The harlot" will be at the service of the Antichrist.
She will be the human part of the Church hiding, adulterating and persecuting the truth.
In the Bible is called "prostitution" to the adulterous marriage between the Church and the world.
The Great Harlot is the catholic religion changed, she will the adulterous false church at the end of times.
The Apocalipsis mentions that she will be fornicating with kings, meaning that religion will be placed at the service of the kingdoms of the Antichrist. And by that very fact she will be serving other god. It is called idolatry.
About 100 times in Sacred Scriptures "harlot" equals "idolatry".
"And I saw the women drunk with the blood of martyrs" says de Apocalipsis. The text means that this false religion (VAT II) will use the reputation of the dead saints while at the same time will persecute the living saints.
All this explanation leads to justify calling the council VAT II the "Great Harlot" of the Apocalipsis.
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In English the word is Apocalypse.
The last book of the Bible is the Apocalypse of St. John.
"...doctrinal level that one becomes reyected because unfaithfulness to Our Lord."
I have no idea what you mean by "reyected." Is it rejected? Or re-elected?
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I think your messages are very interesting, Enoc, but they unfortunately
fail to put your points across due the the shortcomings of how they are
rendered here. You're touching on some pretty heavy stuff and it would
be far too easy to derive a variety of conflicting interpretations of the
words you have here.
Am I supposed to know who Fr. Castellani is????
You're making me feel inadequate, Enoc. And I don't think that was your
intention.
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Okay, I think I'm picking it up now. The tuning is still fuzzy but at least
I'm getting pieces of clear channel. I'm on a boat adrift at sea and
the radio isn't working too well. Lots of static and hissing and popping.
I spoke to an important person today and it was quite a treat. I would
like to thank him for his time, and for his willingness to spend a few
extra minutes with me, even though a lot of what I had to say was
things he didn't want to hear.
It seems to me that what you are saying here, Enoc, is closely tied to
the answers this important person gave me, and I would like to know
more of your message. Do you have a lot more, or are you pretty
much summarizing the whole thing right here?
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The SSPX has not yet married the harlot, but it is already boyfriend, trying to marry her. If it is already a mortal sin to look at with lust a women; with how much gravity will be judge he who wants to marry a harlot who is not Catholic? Therefore it does not matter that the SSPX has not yet made an agreemeent with Rome, the SSPX has already sinned in her heart and in his courting the harlot.
Cardinal Pie said: " It is at the doctrinal level that the battles are won or lost and what decides the future; to wait to see the consecuences to react,
it will be already to late to fight, this was the error of catholics at the XIX century in front of the errors of the french revolution".
It is clear, the SSPX as institution has betrayed already Our Lord. At the individual level, those priests who have not reacted strongly yet, have a very heavy complicity in the betrayal.
Is that the same as this.......?
The SSPX has not yet married the harlot, but is already the
harlot's boyfriend, that is, trying to marry her. If it is already
a mortal sin to look with lust at a woman, with how much
gravity will he be judged, who wants to marry a non-Catholic
harlot? Therefore, it does not matter that the SSPX has not
yet made an untoward agreement with Rome, for the SSPX
has already sinned in her heart, by way of this courting of the
harlot of apostate Rome.
I'm pretty sure that is what you would like to say, Enoc, because it really
makes a lot of sense. But it seems to me that this is a very deep and also
important doctrine, above, and it really needs to be taken apart and put
back together in a variety of ways, so that our dense minds can appreciate
it better. What you have to say is not easy to accept, and it is quite the
revolting thought for the rampant Accordista mindset. Your words are
very much in harmony with the Resistance and more than that, they seem
to go into that region where the faint-hearted fear to tread.
Cardinal Pie said: "It is at the doctrinal level that the battles
are won or lost, and what decides the future. One who
waits to see the consequences before he reacts would be
already too late to engage the fight. This was the error of
the Catholics in the XIXth century, in the wake of the errors
of the French Revolution," for they should have known
better, having already had the experience of the Revolution.
This principle shines brightly on, first and foremost, Bishop Tissier de
Mallerais, who should be no stranger to the lessons of the French Revolution,
since he is, after all, French, and yet he abstains from action, and he
recommends that priests of the SSPX follow his example and therefore
likewise abstain; and he has become, unfortunately, the model for however
many good SSPX priests there are, who look up to His Lordship for the
example he proffers, from his virtual self-imposed prison, both physically and
allegorically, in the Windy City.
Musical interlude:
Gordon Lightfoot, "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald".......
It is clear, the SSPX as institution has already betrayed Our
Lord. At the individual level, those priests who have not
reacted strongly yet, have a very heavy complicity in this
still-worsening betrayal.
At the individual level, those priests who have not come forth to make their
proper opposition to the false teachings of the Menzingen-denizens, make
for themselves an ever-worsening lot by way of their adherence to the bad
example of +TdM and +AdG, if not HEBF himself, who leads the apostasy.
Thank you, Enoc.
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I want to thank Neil Obstat for putting in good english our post.
I want to apologize for our bad english which is not our first languaje.
I accept all the corrections to my text made by Neil Obstat. Thank you again.
Father Castellani was a Prophet and the best theologian Argentina had in the
XX century. He met Archbishop Lefebvre and he congratulated him for his work and he prophetized: "He will be a great light for Argentina". Due to his solid doctrine he was persecuted, suspended "ad divinis", etc. He was born in 1899 and died en 1981. He wrote 60 books, about all kind of topics, and all of them outstanding. Unfortunatily no one of his books was ever, I believe, translated into english.
He also said that the measure in order to know how much someone loves the truth is to see how much someone hates error. So, we can say that the measure someone is faithful to Our Lord can be seen by the measure someone fights against the Devil. It is like a way to know the tree by its fruits.
Our commentary was just a summary about what Fr. Castellani says about the vision of the "Harlot" in the Apocalypse. I will try to post more thoughts about this topic afterwards.
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Enoc, what you have already said about Fr. Castellani is highly
intriguing. Can you give any more details of his life, or, can you
perhaps post the Espanol version of his own autobiography, if
there is one to be found?
It seems to me, at first glance, that you might be sitting on
a goldmine of important information, and I can hardly imagine
that there are not a small number of people who would be
willing to help translate it.
For example, I know of a team of historians who are eager
to take on projects like this, although 60 books would be
too much to undertake all at once. But if there is one book
in particular that would be key to begin with, they might
be prone to be in touch with you in that regard.
What you have here could be highly consequential for the
goals of the Resistance.
Don't you think so, Matthew?
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Here you have one of his books in English
http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/141645
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Here you have one of his books in English
http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/141645
Thank you, Cristian.
Here is one of the chapters from the book that members might
find immediately interesting. This translation leaves Fr. Castellani
making quotes of Scripture that are not exactly what the Douay-
Rheims has, even though I expect that is the only version he
used. Perhaps he had a Spanish translation of it, though.
However, I have been told there was never any official such
published, but there were several quasi-imitations in Spanish.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyway, I have taken the liberty of providing the actual DRV
quotes after each of Fr.'s, and I have included the chapter and
verse references, which he habitually omits. It is my experience
that seeing how this work is dated 1950, it was still
commonplace at that time for many Catholic authors to make
minor adaptations to the literal words of Scripture, so as to
make it more easily work, in context, to most effectively
support their message; and this actually had been very effective
overall, for example, in preaching, when the listeners are drawn
in to the sermon and pay attention better when the words have
a contiguous flow to them, however, when the actual and literal
quotes are used, the listener tends to be put off by the lack of
continuity of style, and this effects the occurrence of them
losing attention, being distracted, or perhaps not being able to
easily understand the message intended by the preacher. See
for yourself, here below, where Fr.'s Scripture quotes actually
sound better in their places than do the literal quotes which I
have subsequently provided.
This chapter immediately got my attention because the phrase
"The signs of the times" was one of the little gems of Scripture
that the Modernists at Vat.II used to promote their program of
affiliation with the unclean spirit of Vat.II. So this is a topic that
anyone, who would be well-equipped to face the challenges of
this same unclean spirit of Vat.II, would be well-advised to study
thoroughly. Additionally, I have repaired a few minor typos which
are too mundane to note with the brackets, misspelling of words
and reversal of modifiers so typical of Spanish>English translations.
The signs of the times.
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All prophetic books are necessarily obscure and are only completely clear once the prophecies are fulfilled. For instance, the Book of Revelation includes a prophecy of every persecution the Church would suffer, typically in the first (Nero’s) and the last one (by Antichrist), followed by God’s timely punishments and Christ’s victories.
Two thousand years after the First Coming, being as we are closer to the prophecies’ fulfillment and in that sense better placed because of our position in time, it is only natural that we should understand them improvingly. “Shut up the words—says the Angel to Daniel—even to the time of the end”. But an Angel says to St John: “Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand”.
So it is not rash to think that Holhauser or Lacunza have deduced certain things from Revelation that the first Fathers did not understand as clearly, all the more so when they interpret the book in perfect harmony with all the Saintly Fathers; not inventing, but unrolling and getting to the bottom of matters, which is the proper method of developing Christian Doctrine.
Anyway, the first Christians clearly understood eschatology in their own terms and times—the proof being that the believing Jews flew from Jerusalem to Pella as soon as they felt Armageddon was upon them when they saw that Titus’ Second Army was laying siege to the city. After that the book was shut for them. The interpretations and commentaries multiplied in such manner that to read them all and try to compose them is a real pain in the neck—as anyone can find out reading Alcázar, or Cornelius á Lapide for instance, as I have been doing these days.
Infidels have always thought these prophecies to be delirious nonsense. Lukewarm Christians avoid them. And yet, the Book of Revelation makes a special promise to those who keep them: “Blessed is he that keeps those things which are written therein”.
[The actual quote is: “Blessed is he, that readeth and heareth the words of this prophecy; and keepeth those things which are written in it; for the time is at hand” (Apoc. i. 3).]
But when a prophecy is fulfilled, then those who have kept it in their hearts—and only them—easily see that this is their realization and cannot be anything else. So happened to Gamaliel and every Jew who came to believe in the First Coming. “O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?” [The actual, and extended quote is: “1 And there came to him the Pharisees and Sadduccees tempting: and they asked him to shew them a sign from heaven. 2 But he answered and said to them: When it is evening, you say: It will be fair weather, for the sky is red. 3 And in the morning: To-day there will be a storm, for the sky is red and lowering. You know then how to discern the face of the sky: and can you not know the signs of the times? A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign: and a sign shall not be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet. And he left them, and went away” (Mat. xvi. 1-4).]
Bossuet’s remark to the effect that “a prophecy may be fulfilled without its contemporaries knowing it” is all right as long as one understands it properly. If it’s taken to mean “without all contemporaries acknowledging it” it would be nothing but balderdash so long as it would, in fact, be tantamount to saying that “the Church wouldn’t know it”. If such a thing were true the prophecies would be quite futile, nothing but mummery, or at the very least, unworthy of God’s wisdom and compassion. “Now learn a parable of the fig tree. When his branch is tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: so likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at doors”. [The actual quote is: “32 And from the fig tree learn a parable: When the branch thereof is now tender, and the leaves come forth, you know that summer is nigh. 33 So you also, when you shall see all these things, know ye that it is nigh, even at the doors. 34 Amen I say to you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass, but my words shall not pass” (Matt. xxiv. 32-35).]
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I want to thank Neil Obstat for putting in good english our post.
I want to apologize for our bad english which is not our first languaje.
I accept all the corrections to my text made by Neil Obstat. Thank you again.
You're very welcome, Enoc, de nada. El placer es mío.
Father Castellani was a Prophet and the best theologian Argentina had in the
XX century. He met Archbishop Lefebvre and he congratulated him for his work and he prophecised: "He will be a great light for Argentina". Due to his solid doctrine he was persecuted, suspended "ad divinis", etc. He was born in 1899 and died en 1981. He wrote 60 books, about all kind of topics, and all of them outstanding. Unfortunately no one of his books was ever, I believe, translated into english.
He also said that the measure in order to know how much someone loves the truth is to see how much someone hates error. So, we can say that the measure [by which] someone is faithful to Our Lord can be seen by the measure someone fights against the Devil. It is like a way to know the tree by its fruits.
Our commentary was just a summary about what Fr. Castellani says about the vision of the "Harlot" in the Apocalypse. I will try to post more thoughts about this topic afterwards.
Your lingual slant, Enoc, is actually quite charming. Please
don't be concerned that anyone will criticize you on CI for
your "bad English!" If it ever happens, just let me know
and I'll be happy to assist you!
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Here you have one of his books in English
http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/141645
Thank you, Cristian.
You are welcome.
This translation leaves Fr. Castellani
making quotes of Scripture that are not exactly what the Douay-
Rheims has, even though I expect that is the only version he
used. Perhaps he had a Spanish translation of it, though.
Well, this translation is not of Castellani, but rather (I think) of some conservative, who is alive now.
And I`ve no idea where he got the translation. Perhaps some modern version? I don´t know.
However, I have been told there was never any official such
published, but there were several quasi-imitations in Spanish.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I don´t think there was ever a translation from the Douay. It wouldn´t have been a good idea either. We had very good translations both from the Vulgate and specially from the Hebrew and Greek.
Anyway, I have taken the liberty of providing the actual DRV
quotes after each of Fr.'s, and I have included the chapter and
verse references, which he habitually omits.
Very good idea!
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Anyway here is another one which I specially love... much more than the other one (actually I don´t like the other one :)...
http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/174468
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Anyway here is another one which I specially love... much more than the other one (actually I don´t like the other one :)...
http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/174468
Cristian,
Thank you for posting this book. It is one more that I will add to books that I hope to read.
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In English the ... last book of the Bible is the Apocalypse of St. John.
That's the Douay-Rheims and traditional Catholic term, whilst the protestants
and other non-Catholics prefer "the Book of Revelation" or just "Revelation."
It might be a bit disconcerting that Fr. Castellani uses "Revelation" except
for the fact that he is from Argentina, and thus using the resources
commonplace in the Spanish language, uses a word in place of "Apocalypse"
that is widely used by non-Catholics in the English-speaking world. He does
say "Apocalitis" (or something like that - I have to restart my system right
now so I'll lose this post if I don't put it up before I can check for the actual
word(s) that Fr. is seen using in his book) from time to time, so maybe that's
a Spanish adaptation, which, if so, would perhaps explain why he is wont to
accept "Revelation" in order to not appear too strange to any foreign
readers who may come along, LIKE ME!
"...doctrinal level that one becomes reyected because unfaithfulness to Our Lord."
I have no idea what you mean by "reyected." Is it rejected? Or re-elected?
Can you say what word you meant to give with your "reyected?"
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Anyway here is another one which I specially love... much more than the other one (actually I don´t like the other one :)...
http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/174468
Cristian,
Thank you for posting this book. It is one more that I will add to books that I hope to read.
You are welcome amice!
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In English the ... last book of the Bible is the Apocalypse of St. John.
That's the Douay-Rheims and traditional Catholic term, whilst the protestants
and other non-Catholics prefer "the Book of Revelation" or just "Revelation."
It might be a bit disconcerting that Fr. Castellani uses "Revelation" except
for the fact that he is from Argentina, and thus using the resources
commonplace in the Spanish language, uses a word in place of "Apocalypse"
that is widely used by non-Catholics in the English-speaking world. He does
say "Apocalitis" (or something like that - I have to restart my system right
now so I'll lose this post if I don't put it up before I can check for the actual
word(s) that Fr. is seen using in his book) from time to time, so maybe that's
a Spanish adaptation, which, if so, would perhaps explain why he is wont to
accept "Revelation" in order to not appear too strange to any foreign
readers who may come along, LIKE ME!
Well, Apocalypse means just that, Revelation. It is its translation. In Spanish we usually say "Apocalipsis", but if you say "revelation" ("Revelación") it doesn´t mean anything.
Now if in English that does mean something, then the translator should have taken care of that...
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Sorry for not posting sooner; internet in my area was down for a while.
I intended to write "rejected". Because one becomes rejected by Our Lord for our unfaithfulness in our love for truth, doctrine. Is at the level of doctrine where we win or loss the battles for Our Lord. Because when Our Lord said: He who is not ashamed of Me before man, I will not be ashamed of him before My Heavenly Father.
I want to point out that Father Castellani has not been promoted by the SSPX in the last years, more than that, he has been abandonated, and there is a main reason why it is so.
Father Leonardo Castellani sees not a temporal triumph of the Church beetween now and the 2nd Coming of Our Lord. The says that nowhere in the Apocalypse there is a mention of a temporal triumph, but on the contrary, the warning that even "the saints will be overcome". He rather places that triumph after Our Lord´s 2nd Coming, wherein it would fit the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary and the period of peace which, he says could be short or long, we do not know.
This is a important point. Because the view of the SSPX of a coming triumph, even before the AntiChrist, causes them to be over optimistic about the whole crisis. Whereas the crisis, according to the Apocalypse, according to reality, and Fr. Castellani, will be worst and worst as time passes, ending with the Antichrist. And here our position in the Resistence, as very realistic, enters, because we do not see anywhere conversión or revival.
For this reason the SSPX is not promoting the realistic views of Fr. Castellani, she wants to think that a "Spring time" in coming over the Church, using the very same words of Bishop Fellay.
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Sorry for not posting sooner; internet in my area was down for a while.
I intended to write "rejected". Because one becomes rejected by Our Lord for our unfaithfulness in our love for truth, doctrine. [It is] at the level of doctrine where we win or [lose] the battles for Our Lord. [For] Our Lord said: He who is not ashamed of Me before man, I will not be ashamed of him before My Heavenly Father.
I want to point out that Father Castellani has not been promoted by the SSPX in the last years, more than that, he has been [abandoned], and there is a main reason why it is so.
Father Leonardo Castellani sees not [we would say, "he does not see"] a temporal triumph of the Church between now and the 2nd Coming of Our Lord.
This is a most telling principle. For it was in the time of Our Lord, too,
when the Pharisees and the Sadducees did not want to see a spiritual
triumph of Our Lord Jesus Christ, but a temporal triumph, that they
crucified Him, or, that is, demanded that the Roman soldiers would do
so lest the Jews would instigate a riot or 'ιnѕυrrєcтισn.' And
ironically, the man that they allowed to be released instead of Our Lord,
Barabbas, was an ιnѕυrrєcтισnist! (Cf. Mk xv. 7) It was like, "Either you
release the ιnѕυrrєcтισnist and then get ιnѕυrrєcтισn, or else we will raise
an ιnѕυrrєcтισn - but either way, Romans, YOU GET ιnѕυrrєcтισn!"
And so too the Modernist Menzingens, demand of the Society priests,
either you cooperate with our worldliness and therefore with the world,
or else we'll release you from your SSPX prison and then we'll raise
our ιnѕυrrєcтισn in the faith without you!
The Jews rejected Our Lord in his day, because they wanted a temporal
kingdom when He had proffered a spiritual kingdom. The SSPX appears
to be doing the same thing today, taking sides with the world, against
the firm principles handed down to them by their own founder, ABL.
The [He] says that nowhere in the Apocalypse [is] there is a mention of a temporal triumph, but on the contrary, [is found there] the warning that even "the saints will be overcome" [cf. Apocalypse xiii. 7]. He rather places that triumph after Our Lord's 2nd Coming, wherein it would fit the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary and the period of peace which, he says could be short or long, we do not know.
This is an important point. Because the view of the SSPX of a coming triumph, even before the AntiChrist, causes them to be over-optimistic about the whole crisis. Whereas the crisis, according to the Apocalypse, according to reality, and Fr. Castellani, will be [worse and worse] as time passes, ending with the Antichrist. And here [enters] our position in the [Resistance] as very realistic, because we do not see anywhere conversión or revival.
For this reason the SSPX is not promoting the realistic views of Fr. Castellani; she wants to think that a "Spring time" [is] coming over the Church, using the very same words of Bishop Fellay.
When Bishop Fellay talks like that he is regurgitating the
words of JPII. This is not new. For over 30 years ago now, the
Modernists in apostate Rome have been using this language,
the "New Springtime" in the Church! And what we
have seen is not growth, but decay!
This is a most interesting message, Enoc. I hope you don't mind
repairs of your spelling. I don't mind doing that because it helps
me to read what you're saying. And I do want to understand it.
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Father Leonardo Castellani sees not a temporal triumph of the Church between now and the 2nd Coming of Our Lord......... He rather places that triumph after Our Lord´s 2nd Coming, wherein it would fit the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary and the period of peace which, he says could be short or long, we do not know.
I'm confused.......
I thought the 2nd Coming of Our Lord was at the end of the world, not just the end of times that we are in right now, so a period of peace after His 2nd coming doesn't make much sense (unless you want to consider those in Heaven).
I had rather envisioned something like the current Chastisement eventually leading up to the 3 days of darkness, then the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, when those who survive finally understand that Our Lord means business; followed by a period of peace as the world becomes Catholic, showing the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart, perhaps a generation or two. Then all goes downhill again, due to our fallen nature, and ends with the 2nd Coming of Our Lord and the Final Judgment. Wasn't sure if The Anti-Christ fits in now with the Chastisement, or at the end just before the 2nd Coming.
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Dear friends,
Be careful with Father Leonardo Castellani. He is one of the master of Fr Ceriani and radio cristiandad. There is good mixed with errors, if I have well understood. Difficult for me because it is in Spanish or in English and my langage is French. But, if I understand well, Fr Castellani thinks we are in the Church of Laodicea and so that the Antechrist is coming soon. It is wrong. We are in the Church of Sardis. We'll have first a little period of triumph with the Church of Philadelphia which is the period where the Jews will convert, and where nearly everybody will convert in the world. The Holy Virgin speaks about this period of triumph when she says that after the consecration of Russia a certain time of peace will be given to the world. And this period is also described in the Apocalypse : it is the half of an hour of silence with the 144000 elected. In the Apocalypse, the seven seals are connected with the seven churches. We are in the fifth seal and in the fith Church of Sardis.
The sixth seal will happen to end the huge crisis which is coming (III rd world war) and to open the Church of Philadelphia.
But the seven trumpets have not begun yet, not even the first one. They are all for the Church of Laodicea. It is very clear in the text.
However, it is true that the Church of Sardis can be considerated like a kind of preparation to what will happen in Church of Laodicea, but with no Antechrist. And we will have a nice period of time to breathe before that. It will be during this good period of time that we will have the Apostles of the last times predicted by Saint Louis Marie Grignon of Monfort.
Enoch and Elie will arrive later, in the Church of Laodicea, to fight the Antechrist. But it is not for now yet.
It is a problem to believe that we are in the last Church of Laodicea, because it leads to mistakes about Francis and about the actual situation of the Church. There are also a problems about millenarism. It is very easy to do mistakes about that subject. This is not the common interpretation of the Holy Scriptures and of the Church. And it makes souls unpeaceful to believe that we are close to end of the world when we are not.
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Enoc,
I read one of Castellani's books available online last night and am now starting the second. You've done us a great service by bringing his work to our attention, hopefully more translations will follow.
Happen to know anyone named Elijah?
InDominoSperavi,
Thanks for the advisory.
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Happen to know anyone named Elijah?
I have one friend who named his son Elijah. I asked him why
not use the Latin form, "Elias," and he said that the Bible he
uses (RSV) says Elijah and so do his friends at church (he's
in the Patrick Madrid crowd). But Elijah shows a lot of signs
of being a normal boy.
Then I have another friend WHO THINKS HE IS Elias.
That makes for a strained friendship, to say the least.
I told him, when Elias really does arrive, I don't think I'll
have all these doubts.
I mean, if he's going to convince the whole world, I hope
he doesn't have that much trouble convincing me!
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But, if I understand well, Fr Castellani thinks we are in the Church of Laodicea and so that the Antechrist is coming soon. It is wrong. We are in the Church of Sardis.
What makes you so sure that "we are in the Church of Sardis?"
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Following the studies of Fr. Castellani, who relies fully in the Fathers of the Church and in the common interpretation of the Apocalypse, we can conclude the following:
We are in the Seventh Church, the seventh seal, the fifth trumpet, and the the fourth cup.
The sixth trumpet will be a mayor war which will wipe out a thrird of the population of the earth. The seventh trumpet will be the Antichrist and the final and brutal persecution.
The rest of the cups would posible be the cosmic events together with the brutal goverment of thAntichrist by which God will punish the earth.
So what could possible follow will be: A mayor WW III, the coming of the Antichrist launched by the false prophet (Francisco I??). 3 years and a half of governing the world; and the second coming of Our Lord. After which would start the eternal triumph of Christh and the Immaculate Heart of Mary at all levels.
Al this is not dogma, of course, but this would be, as a summary, the thoughts that Fr. Castellani would have said about what remains to be fullfilled of the Apocalypse.
The line of studies of Fr Castellani on this topic is not heretical, nor , on the contrary, hope and reality are the fruits of this great theologian. Supernatural hope that Our Lord is going to come soon, very soon.
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Neil, I'll try to answer tomorrow or soon. But in French, it is a whole article to show that, so in English, it is not simple for me. I'll come back as soon as possible.
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I decided to study a little bit carefully the subject and to do an article, both in French and in English. So it will take a few days : Here is something that I give you in advance :
Denzinger in English (go to number 2296)
http://www.catecheticsonline.com/SourcesofDogma.php (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/SourcesofDogma.php)
Millenarianism (Chiliasm) *
[Decree of the Holy Office, July 21, 1944]
2296 In recent times on several occasions this Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office has been asked what must be thought of the system of mitigated Millenarianism, which teaches, for example, that Christ the Lord before the final judgment, whether or not preceded by the resurrection of the many just, will come visibly to rule over this world. The answer is: The system of mitigated Millenarianism cannot be taught safely.
Latin :
Systema Millenarismi mitigati tuto doceri non posse.
This answer was confirmed by the Holy Father Pius XII, adds the French Denzinger in its N°3839
http://catho.org/9.php?d=bxh#e5n (http://catho.org/9.php?d=bxh#e5n)
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I promised I tried to do an article to explain why I think that we are not in the church of Laodicea. I wanted to translate everything in English but unfortunately, I have not enough time to do it. So I put here a link to the article in French for those who are interested. On the right of my blog, you have google translate : you can choose your language in the list :
spanish =espagnol
english = anglais
God bless you all.
http://aveclimmaculee.blogspot.fr/2013/08/apocalypse-sommes-nous-dans-leglise-de.html (http://aveclimmaculee.blogspot.fr/2013/08/apocalypse-sommes-nous-dans-leglise-de.html)
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You may read more on Father Leonardo Castellani, including some translations I have made of excerpts of his works into English, at the following links:
http://trujamanreaccionario.blogspot.com/2016/08/reverend-father-leonardo-castellani.html
http://trujamanreaccionario.blogspot.com/2016/07/on-secret-power-by-father-leonardo.html
http://trujamanreaccionario.blogspot.com/2016/03/los-papeles-de-benjamin-benavides.html
http://trujamanreaccionario.blogspot.com/2015/11/the-reign-of-antipope-and-mystery-of.html
http://trujamanreaccionario.blogspot.com/2015/06/father-leonardo-castellani-on-politics.html
http://trujamanreaccionario.blogspot.com/2014/09/of-pigs-and-ostriches-by-late-father.html
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Fun thread, at a glance.
Noted for future reading.